Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: Phase Reversal on Santa Cruz (cs46xx) = XFiretoo

2002-12-05 Thread Friedrich Ewaldt
Hi Kevin, hi Benny, with your changes applied, now both PCM channels have the same phase with my XFire. The stereo image makes much more sense that way :-). Thanks a lot! What I've noticed: Switching the 'PCM Out' control from 'pre 3D' to 'post 3D' inverts the sign of both lr channels.

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: Phase Reversal on Santa Cruz (cs46xx) = XFiretoo

2002-12-03 Thread Friedrich Ewaldt
Hi Benny, I noticed the phase reversal problem with my Terratec XFire, too: I played a mono wav. Then I combined the left and rigth output electrically and the sound was gone, i.e. one channel outputs the sound with a sign change, so that left+right=signal+(-signal)=0. The sound went back

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: Phase Reversal on Santa Cruz (cs46xx) = XFire too

2002-12-03 Thread Kevin Puetz
On Tuesday 03 December 2002 16:24, Friedrich Ewaldt wrote: Hi Benny, w00t! it seems that volumes 0-0x7fff ramp up volumes, then 8000- go back down... but with opposite phases. So... --- alsa-cvs/alsa-driver-0.9.0rc6cvs20021202/alsa-kernel/pci/cs46xx/dsp_spos.h 2002-11-24

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: Phase Reversal on Santa Cruz (cs46xx) = XFiretoo

2002-12-03 Thread Benny Sjostrand
it seems that volumes 0-0x7fff ramp up volumes, then 8000- go back down... but with opposite phases. So... Great discovery!, probably the stream can be inverted several times when it processedthrough through the SCB tree. (PCMReader-SrcTaskSCB-MasterMixSCB-CodecOut) Almost all SCB's

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: Phase Reversal on Santa Cruz (cs46xx)

2002-11-24 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
Just as a general point to note. We are not putting the audio card into AC3 mode. We might be doing passthru mode or spdif non-audio, but never just AC3 mode. I help with the xine (a free media player http://xine.sf.net) that can play DVDs. DVDs have AC3 audio tracks and DTS audio tracks. xine

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: Phase Reversal on Santa Cruz (cs46xx)

2002-11-22 Thread Benny Sjostrand
no, I haven't, since the patch is quite mangled in the www archive and I wasn't subscribed then, I didn't go through th trouble of fixing it up. Is it merged into cvs now, and if not, could you send it my way? I'd be happy to give it a shot. Here is the patch again, it's not in current

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: Phase Reversal on Santa Cruz (cs46xx)

2002-11-22 Thread Kevin Puetz
On Thursday 21 November 2002 18:09, Benny Sjostrand wrote: Thanks, that explication makes sense. If it was that simple that Santa Cruz where the only card in the world with this problem, but there's the same problem is reported for other cs46xx based card's too. well, how did it work

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: Phase Reversal on Santa Cruz (cs46xx)

2002-11-21 Thread Benny Sjostrand
well, the basic premise is simple... the speaker wires have a positive and negative wire, current flows through the coil, and the cone moves one way or the other. If you swap the wires, the cone moves the other way. Inaudible, except that if the two speakers aren't moving the same way, they

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: Phase Reversal on Santa Cruz (cs46xx)

2002-11-19 Thread Kevin Puetz
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 01:28, you wrote: I get the following error during the 'make' step. I am running kde3.1 rc3 with gcc3.2 err, oops. It only built here because my standard artsmodules.h had stuff in it from when I'd originally just added it to kdemm. My bad. grab

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: Phase Reversal on Santa Cruz (cs46xx)

2002-11-18 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Kevin Puetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, why in the world the santa cruz would be wired in such a way that software which is fine on other cards would get one channel backwards on it is an excellent question. Espescially when there is older software that worked on all (though not so well,

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: Phase Reversal on Santa Cruz (cs46xx)

2002-11-18 Thread Kevin Puetz
On Monday 18 November 2002 08:30, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: Kevin Puetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, why in the world the santa cruz would be wired in such a way that software which is fine on other cards would get one channel backwards on it is an excellent question. Espescially when

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: Phase Reversal on Santa Cruz (cs46xx)

2002-11-18 Thread Kevin Puetz
On Monday 18 November 2002 22:00, Weijia Yang wrote: okay, well for any aRts/noatun users who'd like to a) test their card or b) get a temporary workaround, I'll upload my cheesy effect fikter, which will either make your sound much better or much worse :-).

Re: [Alsa-devel] Re: Phase Reversal on Santa Cruz (cs46xx)

2002-11-17 Thread Kevin Puetz
On Sunday 17 November 2002 23:01, Benny Sjostrand wrote: So... anything that can be done to fix this (I assume so, since it's a new problem since older alsa), or do I have to cut my speaker wires apart? :-P I'm still a newbie to the audio world, but just wondering, why design a audio