Re: [Alsa-user] Please increase size limit of mailing list

[Paul Menzel]

Dear Paolo,


On 04/13/17 15:57, Paolo Bolzoni wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Paul Menzel wrote:

>> Yesterday I sent a message, which got moderated, because my attachment
>> containing debugging information is too big.
>
>>> Message body is too big: 178116 bytes with a limit of 60 KB
>
>> Could the limit please be increased to 500 KB or something similar?
>> That’d be great.

> While I do agree that 60Kb is quite restrictive, what about simply upload the
> debug information elsewhere and link them in the email?

That would indeed be a workaround, with the following disadvantages in 
my opinion.

1.  Using “small” attachments, the sender normally doesn’t think of the
 limitation, and therefore has to resend the message.
2.  The information is not in one place. Having external links is bad
 for people reading messages offline.
3.  What upload service should be used, which everyone trusts or can
 access?


Kind regards,

Paul

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Re: [Alsa-user] Please increase size limit of mailing list

[Ian Malone]

On 13 April 2017 at 15:04, Paul Menzel  wrote:
> Dear Paolo,
>
>
> On 04/13/17 15:57, Paolo Bolzoni wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Paul Menzel wrote:
>
>>> Yesterday I sent a message, which got moderated, because my attachment
>>> containing debugging information is too big.
>>
 Message body is too big: 178116 bytes with a limit of 60 KB
>>
>>> Could the limit please be increased to 500 KB or something similar?
>>> That’d be great.
>
>> While I do agree that 60Kb is quite restrictive, what about simply upload the
>> debug information elsewhere and link them in the email?
>
> That would indeed be a workaround, with the following disadvantages in
> my opinion.
>
> 1.  Using “small” attachments, the sender normally doesn’t think of the
>  limitation, and therefore has to resend the message.
> 2.  The information is not in one place. Having external links is bad
>  for people reading messages offline.
> 3.  What upload service should be used, which everyone trusts or can
>  access?
>
>

pastebin is the usual answer, also github gist if you have an account
or zerobin. This is a public mailing list, so anything you post here
can be seen by the rest of the world anyway.

Downsides to allowing large attachments to public mailing lists:
Total storage for your attachment size is multiplied by the number of
recipients. I don't know how many people are subscribed, but this is a
major mailing list, so send a 1MB attachment and likely it ties up
gigabytes on people's mail accounts and devices globally.
Spam and malware, allowing large attachments makes life easier for
distributors of unsavoury content.

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[Alsa-user] Please increase size limit of mailing list

[Paul Menzel]

Dear ALSA folks,


Yesterday I sent a message, which got moderated, because my attachment 
containing debugging information is too big.

> Message body is too big: 178116 bytes with a limit of 60 KB

Could the limit please be increased to 500 KB or something similar? 
That’d be great.


Kind regards,

Paul

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Re: [Alsa-user] Please increase size limit of mailing list

[Paolo Bolzoni]

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Paul Menzel  wrote:
> Dear ALSA folks,

> Yesterday I sent a message, which got moderated, because my attachment
> containing debugging information is too big.

>> Message body is too big: 178116 bytes with a limit of 60 KB

> Could the limit please be increased to 500 KB or something similar?
> That’d be great.

Dear Menzel,

While I do agree that 60Kb is quite restrictive, what about simply upload the
debug information elsewhere and link them in the email?

Cheers.
Paolo

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Re: [Alsa-user] Please increase size limit of mailing list

[Paolo Bolzoni]

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Paul Menzel  wrote:
> Dear Paolo,
> On 04/13/17 15:57, Paolo Bolzoni wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Paul Menzel wrote:

>>> Yesterday I sent a message, which got moderated, because my attachment
>>> containing debugging information is too big.

 Message body is too big: 178116 bytes with a limit of 60 KB

>>> Could the limit please be increased to 500 KB or something similar?
>>> That’d be great.

>> While I do agree that 60Kb is quite restrictive, what about simply upload
>> the
>> debug information elsewhere and link them in the email?

> That would indeed be a workaround, with the following disadvantages in my
> opinion.
>
> 1.  Using “small” attachments, the sender normally doesn’t think of the
> limitation, and therefore has to resend the message.
> 2.  The information is not in one place. Having external links is bad
> for people reading messages offline.
> 3.  What upload service should be used, which everyone trusts or can
> access?

Dear Menzel,

I have to underline I am not one of the mailing list administrators.
Mine was nothing more a suggestion for a workaround.

About point (3) however, there is an obvious solution. Sign both the
file and your email via PGP, if the file get tampered in any way it
will be detected.

Cheers,
Paolo

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[Alsa-user] Figure out hardware issue with headphone jack on TUXEDO Book BU1406

[Paul Menzel]

Dear ALSA folks,


On a TUXEDO Book BU1406, the internal speakers stopped working. Sound 
still works when plugging in headphones or over HDMI [1]. This is 
reproducible with Linux 4.9 up to 4.11-rc6, and it worked a month ago, 
so I don’t think it’s a Linux kernel issue.


I assume it’s an hardware issue, that the for whatever reason, the 
system thinks headphones are plugged in all the time, and that the 
sensor(?) is damaged.


Can I somehow verify that with the output created by `ubuntu-bug audio`?

I think the excerpt below is from PulseAudio, but shows `available: no` 
for the output speaker.


```
ports:
  		analog-input-internal-mic: Internes Mikrofon (priority 8900, 
latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)

properties:
device.icon_name = "audio-input-microphone"
  		analog-input-mic: Mikrofon (priority 8700, latency offset 0 usec, 
available: no)

properties:
device.icon_name = "audio-input-microphone"
  		analog-output-speaker: Lautsprecher (priority 1, latency offset 
0 usec, available: no)

properties:
device.icon_name = "audio-speakers"
  		analog-output-headphones: Kopfhörer (priority 9000, latency offset 
0 usec, available: yes)

properties:
device.icon_name = "audio-headphones"
  		hdmi-output-0: HDMI / DisplayPort (priority 5900, latency offset 0 
usec, available: no)

properties:
device.icon_name = "video-display"
   		hdmi-output-1: HDMI / DisplayPort 2 (priority 5800, latency offset 
0 usec, available: no)

properties:
device.icon_name = "video-display"
  		hdmi-output-2: HDMI / DisplayPort 3 (priority 5700, latency offset 
0 usec, available: no)

properties:
device.icon_name = "video-display"
```

It’d be great, if you could tell me, what to look at, with the 
headphones plugged and unplugged.



Kind regards,

Paul


[1] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=194901



ubuntu-bug_audio-linux_4.9.txt.7z
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