Re: [Alsa-user] Please increase size limit of mailing list

2017-04-13 Thread Ian Malone 
On 13 April 2017 at 15:04, Paul Menzel  wrote:
> Dear Paolo,
>
>
> On 04/13/17 15:57, Paolo Bolzoni wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Paul Menzel wrote:
>
>>> Yesterday I sent a message, which got moderated, because my attachment
>>> containing debugging information is too big.
>>
 Message body is too big: 178116 bytes with a limit of 60 KB
>>
>>> Could the limit please be increased to 500 KB or something similar?
>>> That’d be great.
>
>> While I do agree that 60Kb is quite restrictive, what about simply upload the
>> debug information elsewhere and link them in the email?
>
> That would indeed be a workaround, with the following disadvantages in
> my opinion.
>
> 1.  Using “small” attachments, the sender normally doesn’t think of the
>  limitation, and therefore has to resend the message.
> 2.  The information is not in one place. Having external links is bad
>  for people reading messages offline.
> 3.  What upload service should be used, which everyone trusts or can
>  access?
>
>

pastebin is the usual answer, also github gist if you have an account
or zerobin. This is a public mailing list, so anything you post here
can be seen by the rest of the world anyway.

Downsides to allowing large attachments to public mailing lists:
Total storage for your attachment size is multiplied by the number of
recipients. I don't know how many people are subscribed, but this is a
major mailing list, so send a 1MB attachment and likely it ties up
gigabytes on people's mail accounts and devices globally.
Spam and malware, allowing large attachments makes life easier for
distributors of unsavoury content.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Please increase size limit of mailing list

2017-04-13 Thread Paolo Bolzoni 
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Paul Menzel  wrote:
> Dear Paolo,
> On 04/13/17 15:57, Paolo Bolzoni wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Paul Menzel wrote:

>>> Yesterday I sent a message, which got moderated, because my attachment
>>> containing debugging information is too big.

 Message body is too big: 178116 bytes with a limit of 60 KB

>>> Could the limit please be increased to 500 KB or something similar?
>>> That’d be great.

>> While I do agree that 60Kb is quite restrictive, what about simply upload
>> the
>> debug information elsewhere and link them in the email?

> That would indeed be a workaround, with the following disadvantages in my
> opinion.
>
> 1.  Using “small” attachments, the sender normally doesn’t think of the
> limitation, and therefore has to resend the message.
> 2.  The information is not in one place. Having external links is bad
> for people reading messages offline.
> 3.  What upload service should be used, which everyone trusts or can
> access?

Dear Menzel,

I have to underline I am not one of the mailing list administrators.
Mine was nothing more a suggestion for a workaround.

About point (3) however, there is an obvious solution. Sign both the
file and your email via PGP, if the file get tampered in any way it
will be detected.

Cheers,
Paolo

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Re: [Alsa-user] Please increase size limit of mailing list

2017-04-13 Thread Paul Menzel 
Dear Paolo,


On 04/13/17 15:57, Paolo Bolzoni wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Paul Menzel wrote:

>> Yesterday I sent a message, which got moderated, because my attachment
>> containing debugging information is too big.
>
>>> Message body is too big: 178116 bytes with a limit of 60 KB
>
>> Could the limit please be increased to 500 KB or something similar?
>> That’d be great.

> While I do agree that 60Kb is quite restrictive, what about simply upload the
> debug information elsewhere and link them in the email?

That would indeed be a workaround, with the following disadvantages in 
my opinion.

1.  Using “small” attachments, the sender normally doesn’t think of the
 limitation, and therefore has to resend the message.
2.  The information is not in one place. Having external links is bad
 for people reading messages offline.
3.  What upload service should be used, which everyone trusts or can
 access?


Kind regards,

Paul

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Re: [Alsa-user] Please increase size limit of mailing list

2017-04-13 Thread Paolo Bolzoni 
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Paul Menzel  wrote:
> Dear ALSA folks,

> Yesterday I sent a message, which got moderated, because my attachment
> containing debugging information is too big.

>> Message body is too big: 178116 bytes with a limit of 60 KB

> Could the limit please be increased to 500 KB or something similar?
> That’d be great.

Dear Menzel,

While I do agree that 60Kb is quite restrictive, what about simply upload the
debug information elsewhere and link them in the email?

Cheers.
Paolo

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