Re: [Amsn-devel] web-online buddy icon in default skin on mac

2007-05-31 Thread Tom Hennigan
It seems that BoneFill (the skin's author) didn't include the image for the RC release, but he's releasing an update with this icon soon :-D (CF. http://forums.cocoaforge.com/viewtopic.php?p=93019#93019) -Tom On 29 May 2007, at 10:50, Harry Vennik wrote: Hi, While using 0.97RC1 on mac,

Re: [Amsn-devel] baazen!

2007-05-31 Thread Youness Alaoui
well done on your first commit! by the way, you should also subscribe to the amsn-commits mailing list, so you can see all the commits. Keep it coming ;) KKRT On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:05:49AM +0200, Mirko Hansen wrote: Wow thanks a lot everybody for this nice welcome. It's a real pleasure

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Heey, so much speaking without me :'( Are you crazy to flood my mailbox like that ? Anyway, IMO, putting FTs in CL is a really bad idea as I think that many people don't look at it when they are in a speaking with someone so EVEN if HIG would say that I would be totally against. By the way, HIG as

Re: [Amsn-devel] baazen!

2007-05-31 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
Just backported in branch... I wondor for Scapor modification... Author: scapor Project:amsn Revision: 8782 Changed Lines: 61 tryout: winicon is changed to DP of user for chatwindows to easily find chats in windowmanager listings.OK or not ? Phil PS And this shitty amsn-commits ML

Re: [Amsn-devel] baazen!

2007-05-31 Thread Karel Demeyer
OK, this is a test if you like it. it seems to make it easier to find chatwindows you recently used in a window manager's windows list. (as in it was covered byu a window and you can more quickly find the image related to the person (especially if he or she doesn't change those images too often)

Re: [Amsn-devel] baazen!

2007-05-31 Thread Tom Hennigan
There isn't a tray on OS X. We've got a dock with open applications or applications to launch, but it's not like the windows one. Currently right clicking on the icon gives a contextual menu with all open windows (clicking on the item raises the window), but not the open tabs. - Tom On

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Karel Demeyer
2007/5/31, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Heey, so much speaking without me :'( Are you crazy to flood my mailbox like that ? Anyway, IMO, putting FTs in CL is a really bad idea as I think that many people don't look at it when they are in a speaking with someone so EVEN if HIG

Re: [Amsn-devel] baazen!

2007-05-31 Thread Karel Demeyer
I meant dock instead of tray ... but as it's one icon for the whole app I think it's best to not change the dock icon for the active chat DP as it wouldn't make it better (no different items to extinguish) and make it worse to find amsn (as the icon wouldn't be always the same). 2007/5/31, Tom

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Philippe Valembois - Phil
I didn't want to speak about long time histories but more about pending FTs... Those we display with the accept link : having it in the same list could be great IMO... Phil Karel Demeyer a écrit : 2007/5/31, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Heey, so much speaking without me :'(

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Karel Demeyer
Yeah, I know what you want, and I applaud it. but because some ppl here think we need a manager to find files further in history (the case youness described of having 20 files sent), I proposed to put this in the history. Karel. 2007/5/31, Philippe Valembois - Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I didn't

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread NoWhereMan
Youness Alaoui wrote: ok, so for your taste, you would get the FT manager the first time you get a file transfer, then you will click on it's 'settings' button and choose 'do not show when a file transfer is started', then you would only get the infobar, and no manager... makes sense ?

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Youness Alaoui
that would be s non intuitive.. talking about usability... :p I think it would be confusing if it was the *only* way. I wouldn't mind it being there, on the contrary, it's a good idea to have that in the history log, but I think that if a user wants to find oldFTs he shouldn't have to open

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Youness Alaoui
I didn't understand what you meant :p but the 'do not show this dialog anymore', I don't like.. I prefer the setting of show always, show background, never... and the hide/cancel.. you wouldn't 'hide' a download, in a download manager, you remove a download once finished, if you remove it

Re: [Amsn-devel] baazen!

2007-05-31 Thread Youness Alaoui
I think this should become an advanced option and disabled by default.. no ? On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 06:21:49PM +0200, Karel Demeyer wrote: I meant dock instead of tray ... but as it's one icon for the whole app I think it's best to not change the dock icon for the active chat DP as it

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Youness Alaoui
I know that I kind of flooded the list with all the mails (it's still better than one huge mail, right ?) But anyone can comment on the three reasons I gave below as to whether or not a DM should be created ? On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:31:16AM -0400, Youness Alaoui wrote: Yes, but I still

Re: [Amsn-devel] baazen!

2007-05-31 Thread Tom Hennigan
Philosophy ;-) On 31 May 2007, at 22:48, Karel Demeyer wrote: In my filosophy (spelled wrong ?) it's better to choose sane defaults then having yet another advanced option. If you think it's bad or you think more ppl will find this bad, I'll make it as a plugin for myself and remove it from

Re: [Amsn-devel] baazen!

2007-05-31 Thread Karel Demeyer
idem dito 2007/5/31, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think this should become an advanced option and disabled by default.. no ? On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 06:21:49PM +0200, Karel Demeyer wrote: I meant dock instead of tray ... but as it's one icon for the whole app I think it's best to

Re: [Amsn-devel] baazen!

2007-05-31 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
Φιλοσοφία is the original (tm) spelling, everything else is just imitations :p So, to be honest, filosophy or even filosofy is closer to the original spelling, but oh well :D On 5/31/07, Tom Hennigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philosophy ;-) On 31 May 2007, at 22:48, Karel Demeyer wrote: In

Re: [Amsn-devel] baazen!

2007-05-31 Thread Youness Alaoui
wait, something's wrong, in the previous mail, you said the opposite of what you just said here.. lol anyways, about sane defaults, I'd say remove it for multiple reasons : 1 - icon would be too small to recognize + quality loss could make it just seem like an abstract painting :p 2 - what if

Re: [Amsn-devel] baazen!

2007-05-31 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
So, wouldn't it make a wonderful plugin? On 6/1/07, Youness Alaoui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wait, something's wrong, in the previous mail, you said the opposite of what you just said here.. lol anyways, about sane defaults, I'd say remove it for multiple reasons : 1 - icon would be too

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Vivia Nikolaidou
I don't remember who mentioned it, but it would be nice to have one line in the CW showing FT progress (maybe make the filename clickable so clicking it would open the file?), and have a way to click it and open the FT manager in case a user is downloading many files at once... However, the

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Tom Hennigan
Personally I'm all for another window for fts. I think this is the best way because: - It's intuitive for new users. - It's consistent with other applications. Having it in the chat window as well would be a nice convenience, but I think (personally) it would be better to have it all in a

Re: [Amsn-devel] 0.98 TODO

2007-05-31 Thread Youness Alaoui
well.. that's exactly what we are talking about no? :| I mean, you just listed what I suggested. I can't see anything different, that's the download manager I'm refering to here... On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 12:00:39AM +0300, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote: I don't remember who mentioned it, but it