Re: [android-developers] Re: Service.startForeground() messes with scheduling?

2010-04-29 Thread Mariano Kamp
Now we have this great article: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html Services can further negotiate this behavior by requesting they be considered foreground. This places the service in a please don't kill state, but requires that it include a notification

[android-developers] Re: Service.startForeground() messes with scheduling?

2010-04-13 Thread Bob Kerns
My impression, not well investigated, is that your service is NOT likely to be killed while it is actually running on the main thread doing processing. I'm guessing you're doing this on a separate thread? Your process may be killed, but is less likely to be killed, if you start the service, and

[android-developers] Re: Service.startForeground() messes with scheduling?

2010-04-13 Thread Streets Of Boston
Does Android even do anything with thread priority? In my experience: Yes. You can set a Thread's priority and it has an effect. Note, however, that the actual priority will never be higher than the groups priority. When i change a background thread's priority and set it very high, the UI

Re: [android-developers] Re: Service.startForeground() messes with scheduling?

2010-04-13 Thread Mariano Kamp
Ok, I'll explain in detail. There are two issues in this story: (a) killability of the service (b) execution prio of the service In the good old days I just used Process.setThreadPriority(Process.THREAD_PRIORITY_LOWEST) in my service and things went wonderfully. My sync service ran and took as

[android-developers] Re: Service.startForeground() messes with scheduling?

2010-04-12 Thread Mariano Kamp
*bump* It seems that the implementation of startForeground() delegates to this code: public void setServiceForeground(ComponentName className, IBinder token, 1781 #127f1bc903f2e1c4_l1781int id, Notification notification, boolean removeNotification) throws RemoteException { 1782

Re: [android-developers] Re: Service.startForeground() messes with scheduling?

2010-04-12 Thread Mark Murphy
Mariano Kamp wrote: Is that a coincidence or does startForeground() mess with the thread's prio or does anything else but what is written below? Quoting myself: ...but a persistent concern for game developers on Android is the impacts that external forces have on their frame rates. For

Re: [android-developers] Re: Service.startForeground() messes with scheduling?

2010-04-12 Thread Dianne Hackborn
Yep startForeround() does what it says -- tells the system it should treat your service as if it is in foreground, something the user is aware of. A typical example is background music playback, which needs to get as much CPU as it needs in order to avoid a bad user experience. Generally, if you

Re: [android-developers] Re: Service.startForeground() messes with scheduling?

2010-04-12 Thread Mariano Kamp
My point is that the documentation says nothing at all about raising the execution prio, but you say now that it does, right? What the documentation says is that startForground() helps that the process doesn't get killed and that's what I was after, because it is a costly process wasting bandwidth

Re: [android-developers] Re: Service.startForeground() messes with scheduling?

2010-04-12 Thread Mariano Kamp
Quoting myself: And you have done so wonderfully. What is it your trying to say though? That it is ok to raise the priority when I don't want my process to be killed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Android Developers group. To post to this

Re: [android-developers] Re: Service.startForeground() messes with scheduling?

2010-04-12 Thread Mark Murphy
Mariano Kamp wrote: Quoting myself: And you have done so wonderfully. What is it your trying to say though? That it is ok to raise the priority when I don't want my process to be killed. I'm saying what Ms. Hackborn confirmed in her reply to my post -- startForeground() elevates

Re: [android-developers] Re: Service.startForeground() messes with scheduling?

2010-04-12 Thread Mariano Kamp
1) CPU is not a problem per se. My process can happily be starved of CPU, but as it needs to do xml parsing it does task the CPU albeit at it's lowest prio. 2) As I said I rely on an external API that doesn't understand incremental updates. Anyway, I think there is no good solution and the

Re: [android-developers] Re: Service.startForeground() messes with scheduling?

2010-04-12 Thread Dianne Hackborn
Why do you want to use startForeground()? What is it giving you? If you want your code to run in the background, it is probably not what you want. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Mariano Kamp mariano.k...@gmail.comwrote: 1) CPU is not a problem per se. My process can happily be starved of