Re: [android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-10 Thread Bill Michaelson
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Re: [android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-10 Thread Kevin Duffey
Lew..I apologize whole heartedly for whatever it is I might have said to upset you so much. I retract all my statements and hope we can get past this and be friends. Perhaps I was too assertive in my initial claim that today's phones could be decent servers. I didn't have the time to look up the

[android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-09 Thread Nobu Games
Well... in fact there are apps out there that run small web-servers on your phone, like Samsung's Kies app that allows browsing your phone's contacts and media files from your PC's browser. It works on a LAN and I was very intrigued by that concept so I prototyped a primitive Android web server

Re: [android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-09 Thread Kristopher Micinski
Well, of course, this is possible, you can simply just do the normal Java socket stuff. The problem comes with the details of actually using it and interfacing to it. Besides the problem of not really having an easily addressable IP, it's just not clear what's being asked here. This idea

[android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-09 Thread bob
You can definitely create a TCP server on Android. The code would look like this: ServerSocket serverSocket = null; boolean listening = true; try { serverSocket = new ServerSocket(1101); } catch (IOException e) { System.err.println(Could not listen on port: 1101.); System.exit(-1); } while

Re: [android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-09 Thread Kristopher Micinski
Yes, but doing that (as I said) lends itself to an everlasting service: you certainly can't run that code on the UI thread (it will simply barf with an exception), and so the sensible place to put it is in a service.. There might be times when this is acceptable, but you should think about it

Re: [android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-09 Thread Kevin Duffey
While I agree that running a web server of any sort on the android phone/tablet is pretty pointless compared to todays entry level cheap hardware.. most of these devices are more powerful and capable than my development machine was 6..maybe 7 or so years ago, and we wrote cod while running a

[android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-09 Thread Lew
bob wrote: You can definitely create a TCP server on Android. The code would look like this: ServerSocket serverSocket = null; Not really necessary to initialize to null. boolean listening = true; try { serverSocket = new ServerSocket(1101); } catch (IOException e) {

Re: [android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-09 Thread Lew
On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:04:55 PM UTC-8, andjarnic wrote: ... I could see where rather than buying a beefy multi-cpu 2+ rack system, you could put a bunch of these in place as servers to handle a few dozen or so requests and with almost no heat and enough power and memory to handle

Re: [android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-09 Thread Lew
Lew wrote: andjarnic wrote: ... I could see where rather than buying a beefy multi-cpu 2+ rack system, you could put a bunch of these in place as servers to handle a few dozen or so requests and with almost no heat and enough power and memory to handle the requests.. a farm of these

Re: [android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-09 Thread Kevin Duffey
Clearly you are taking this to an extreme.. my point was..given that *most* phone devices don't get too hot that they would need a large cooling system to keep it cool, and the fairly decent processing power of current devices, my point was, it would be possible, to some extent, barring a few

Re: [android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-09 Thread Kristopher Micinski
It's not that you can't do it because of hardware restrictions, it's that a standard implementation would lend itself to something that violates a key Android principle. If you're just doing it for novelty, then by all means do it. But that's a different story than a production app. Since this

Re: [android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-09 Thread Kristopher Micinski
I'm sorry if I came off confrontational to your response, I didn't mean to sound that way at all. I don't believe I'm taking this to an extreme: this forum is for developing apps, I wanted to give a warning that you should consider other options if you want to develop real apps that need this

Re: [android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-09 Thread Kevin Duffey
Kris, I was referring to Lew's response. Text is of course impossible to know someone's tone, some people may just reply with what seems like ruffled feathers answers..but might just be making a point instead. Regardless, I don't let responses bother me for the most part, but it seemed as if my

Re: [android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-09 Thread Lew
On Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:44:36 PM UTC-8, andjarnic wrote: Clearly you are taking this to an extreme.. my point was..given that *most* phone devices don't get too hot that they would need a large cooling system to keep it cool, I disagree. Most phone devices get hot enough that

Re: [android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-09 Thread Lew
andjarnic wrote: Kris, I was referring to Lew's response. Text is of course impossible to know someone's tone, some people may just reply with what seems like ruffled feathers answers..but might just be making a point instead. Regardless, I don't let responses bother me for the most part,

Re: [android-developers] Re: why couldn't create webservice using android?

2013-01-09 Thread Kristopher Micinski
No, I see that now, my mistake, that was just my reading too quickly.. Kris On Jan 9, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Kevin Duffey andjar...@gmail.com wrote: Kris, I was referring to Lew's response. Text is of course impossible to know someone's tone, some people may just reply with what seems like