Re: [android-discuss] Interesting email from an Android user

2013-07-30 Thread Chris
On Saturday, March 2, 2013 2:32:23 PM UTC-6, John Coryat wrote: it sounds like the bug on your side (no offense and sorry if I misunderstood the problem)... The problem isn't our app, it's the state of Android introductory orientation. If users don't know how to properly end apps, then

Re: [android-discuss] Interesting email from an Android user

2013-07-30 Thread Brian Conrad
On 07/30/2013 08:16 AM, Chris wrote: On Saturday, March 2, 2013 2:32:23 PM UTC-6, John Coryat wrote: it sounds like the bug on your side (no offense and sorry if I misunderstood the problem)... The problem isn't our app, it's the state of Android introductory orientation. If users don't know

Re: [android-discuss] Interesting email from an Android user

2013-07-30 Thread John Coryat
We had an option to display an exit button that we removed in the last update. With millions of users, only one person complained that it was missing. I think the majority of users get the idea that the back key backs the user out of the application. -John Coryat On Tuesday, July 30, 2013

Re: [android-discuss] Interesting email from an Android user

2013-07-30 Thread Johan Appelgren
What's wrong with the home button? It should quickly exit the app unless it has something active that should continue like playing music in which case there should be an ongoing notification to make the user aware of it, preferably with a pause/stop button in the notification. I rarely press

Re: [android-discuss] Interesting email from an Android user

2013-07-30 Thread Brian Conrad
On 07/30/2013 11:15 AM, Johan Appelgren wrote: What's wrong with the home button? It should quickly exit the app unless it has something active that should continue like playing music in which case there should be an ongoing notification to make the user aware of it, preferably with a

Re: [android-discuss] Interesting email from an Android user

2013-07-30 Thread Brian Conrad
An exit button is probably only necessary that has too many UI layers (usually done with Intents) that require a number of back keys to exit. Makes perfect sense to have one then. There is a problem too of leaving too many apps open and running out of memory to run an app especially if it

Re: [android-discuss] Interesting email from an Android user

2013-07-30 Thread C. Beck
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Brian Conrad brianjto...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/30/2013 08:16 AM, Chris wrote: Where does it state in developer documentation that the back button is supposed to end a program? I don't see what it has to do with Android introductory orientation, especially

Re: [android-discuss] Interesting email from an Android user

2013-07-30 Thread Johan Appelgren
You're not supposed to exit Android apps period. At least not in the desktop process centric meaning of exit. Works fine in most cases except for apps that don't pause worker threads in onPause or abuse services, alarms and broadcast receivers to stay alive or get restarted unnecessarily. --

Re: [android-discuss] Interesting email from an Android user

2013-07-30 Thread Brian Conrad
On 07/30/2013 01:12 PM, Johan Appelgren wrote: You're not supposed to exit Android apps period. At least not in the desktop process centric meaning of exit. Works fine in most cases except for apps that don't pause worker threads in onPause or abuse services, alarms and broadcast receivers

[android-discuss] Re: Interesting email from an Android user

2013-07-30 Thread Doug Gordon
I've always found the result of pressing the Back key to be ambiguous at best. In what I think was the original concept of Android apps, the idea was that it would take you back to an earlier app in the stack of active apps in a logical way. For example, my app displays the names of locations

Re: [android-discuss] Re: Interesting email from an Android user

2013-07-30 Thread peter f miller
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Doug Gordon gordo...@gmail.com wrote: I originally didn't allow an exit with the Back key, forcing users to use the Home button, but after a couple of users took me to task about it I went back to the standard behavior. I've noticed a few apps that pop up a Are