[apple-crop] Apples From China?
I'm curious on what the group thinks about this proposed amendment to the U.S. Fruit and Vegetable Regulation which will allow the import of apples into the U.S. from China. I don't want this to become a All things from China are bad. thread. But I can see both negative and positive possibilities on allowing this. They do recommend additional measures and actions other than the standard Port of Entry Inspection. http://www.regulations.gov/?utm_source=hs_emailutm_medium=emailutm_content=13804591_hsenc=p2ANqtz--B9po2Wh9EOEarH4oSyBng8hr9QeyW3LJQbTqn5DyDzYxmuMr2ciJZaLS1t7JjLaavRgsui8ZQ9El8DY6ATo7HsWEkbg_hsmi=13804591#!documentDetail;D=APHIS-2014-0003-0001 Thanks. Mike Arvay Small Grower in Central Indiana. ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
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When the demand for apples in the United States is greater than the supply available in the United States, then I have no problem with imports from China or elsewhere..as long as we have a knowledge of how the fruit is grown and how pest control is administered. But I cannot see importing from China if we have an ample supply..we should support our own growers before supporting those from around the world. Dennis Norton IPM Specialist/Certified Nurseryman Royal Oak Farm Orchard 15908 Hebron Rd. Harvard, IL 60033-9357 Office (815) 648-4467 Mobile (815) 228-2174 Fax (609) 228-2174 http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: Ginda Fisher To: Apple-crop discussion list ; Mike Arvay Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China? Speaking as an apple consumer, I have concerns about China driving down price, and therefore quality, of U.S. grown fruit. But I tend to avoid food and children's toys that come out of China. (Like everyone else, most of my clothes and electronics have Chinese components. And I've had no problems with that.) -- Typed with Swype. Who knows what I meant to say? On August 15, 2014 10:26:03 AM EDT, Mike Arvay greenap...@deercreekorchard.com wrote: I'm curious on what the group thinks about this proposed amendment to the U.S. Fruit and Vegetable Regulation which will allow the import of apples into the U.S. from China.I don't want this to become a All things from China are bad. thread. But I can see both negative and positive possibilities on allowing this. They do recommend additional measures and actions other than the standard Port of Entry Inspection.http://www.regulations.gov/?utm_source=hs_emailutm_medium=emailutm_content=13804591_hsenc=p2ANqtz--B9po2Wh9EOEarH4oSyBng8hr9QeyW3LJQbTqn5DyDzYxmuMr2ciJZaLS1t7JjLaavRgsui8ZQ9El8DY6ATo7HsWEkbg_hsmi=13804591#!documentDetail;D=APHIS-2014-0003-0001Thanks.Mike ArvaySmall Grower in Central Indiana.apple-crop mailing listapple-crop@virtualorchard.nethttp://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
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For more information, see the article on the Good Fruit Grower Web site: http://www.goodfruit.com/usda-issues-rule-to-allow-imports-of-apples-from-china/ On Aug 15, 2014, at 8:13 AM, dmnor...@royaloakfarmorchard.com wrote: When the demand for apples in the United States is greater than the supply available in the United States, then I have no problem with imports from China or elsewhere..as long as we have a knowledge of how the fruit is grown and how pest control is administered. But I cannot see importing from China if we have an ample supply..we should support our own growers before supporting those from around the world. Dennis Norton IPM Specialist/Certified Nurseryman Royal Oak Farm Orchard 15908 Hebron Rd. Harvard, IL 60033-9357 Office (815) 648-4467 Mobile (815) 228-2174 Fax (609) 228-2174 http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.com http://www.royaloakfarmorchard.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: Ginda Fisher To: Apple-crop discussion list ; Mike Arvay Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China? Speaking as an apple consumer, I have concerns about China driving down price, and therefore quality, of U.S. grown fruit. But I tend to avoid food and children's toys that come out of China. (Like everyone else, most of my clothes and electronics have Chinese components. And I've had no problems with that.) -- Typed with Swype. Who knows what I meant to say? On August 15, 2014 10:26:03 AM EDT, Mike Arvay greenap...@deercreekorchard.com wrote: I'm curious on what the group thinks about this proposed amendment to the U.S. Fruit and Vegetable Regulation which will allow the import of apples into the U.S. from China. I don't want this to become a All things from China are bad. thread. But I can see both negative and positive possibilities on allowing this. They do recommend additional measures and actions other than the standard Port of Entry Inspection. http://www.regulations.gov/?utm_source=hs_emailutm_medium=emailutm_content=13804591_hsenc=p2ANqtz--B9po2Wh9EOEarH4oSyBng8hr9QeyW3LJQbTqn5DyDzYxmuMr2ciJZaLS1t7JjLaavRgsui8ZQ9El8DY6ATo7HsWEkbg_hsmi=13804591#!documentDetail;D=APHIS-2014-0003-0001 Thanks. Mike Arvay Small Grower in Central Indiana. apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
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There is a lot of labor involved with the production of apples. For US growers to be competitive, this implies that the price of labor will have to fall here in the US or the cost of labor in China will need to rise. (not likely) Another factor is the cost of fumigation.(?) Shipping is not a real factor as they will ship directly to the West Coast for less than 5 cents per pound. I Owned a pottery back in the 80's, and when China starting shipping to the US, the wholesale prices of their pottery was about what I had to pay for the raw ingredients. It was truly shocking. China is the largest grower of apples, outproducing the US by 9 fold. Also, they are great farmers and the apple is a native tree for them. This is big trouble for the US grower. On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Fleming, William w...@montana.edu wrote: To me it just seems strange that we would allow importing apples from any country when we depend on exports ourselves to market the excess amount of fruit we produce. Maybe I'm just looking at it with too much common sense. Then again many times in trade agreements allowing an import of a product is traded in exchange for export of another. Who knows, we might be trading apples for flip-flops. Doesn't benefit the apple grower but may benefit an entirely different industry, and a politician's campaign contributors. Bill Fleming Montana State University Western Ag Research Center 580 Quast Lane Corvallis, MT 59828 -Original Message- From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Mike Arvay Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 8:26 AM To: Apple-crop discussion list Subject: [apple-crop] Apples From China? I'm curious on what the group thinks about this proposed amendment to the U.S. Fruit and Vegetable Regulation which will allow the import of apples into the U.S. from China. I don't want this to become a All things from China are bad. thread. But I can see both negative and positive possibilities on allowing this. They do recommend additional measures and actions other than the standard Port of Entry Inspection. http://www.regulations.gov/?utm_source=hs_emailutm_medium=emailutm_content=13804591_hsenc=p2ANqtz--B9po2Wh9EOEarH4oSyBng8hr9QeyW3LJQbTqn5DyDzYxmuMr2ciJZaLS1t7JjLaavRgsui8ZQ9El8DY6ATo7HsWEkbg_hsmi=13804591#!documentDetail;D=APHIS-2014-0003-0001 Thanks. Mike Arvay Small Grower in Central Indiana. ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
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China is the world’s largest consumer of fruits and vegetables, with a growing appetite for high-quality produce. China is also an expanding import market (mostly fresh fruits and, to a lesser extent, processed products). The value of China’s produce imports increased sevenfold between 1992 and 2001, making it one of the world’s fastest growing import markets. (Global Trade Patterns in Fruits and Vegetables Economic Research Service/USDA). Yet China is producing almost half of world total apple production, increasing from 33,263,000; 35,985,000 and 37,000,000 metric tonnes from 2010, 2011 and 2012 respectively while increasing world exports by 10% between 2000 to 2006. (Source: World Markets and Trade, US Department of Agriculture, Foreign Agricultural Service, May 2007). However, 10%; volume in terms of of world export is only 3% of their China's total production!!! The US has been increasing their shipments of high volume fresh apple to China. We will likely continue increase of apple exports until China has ramped up their volume and quality of production. Its been my understanding that even the Chinese people prefer US apple due to food safety concerns. Western US apple trade to China and world markets may be well for Eastern growers as it will likely reduce the shipments of Washington State apples to eastern markets and increase supply for locally grown fruit? I would favor increased tree fruit trade with China under competitive trade conditions based on standardized production practices. As it now stands, the regulations do not require the use of production practice guidelines to the standards which U.S growers need to abide, creating a competitive disadvantage for the US tree fruit producer. Pest management practices, worker protection standards and child labor laws shouldnbsp; be instituted within the guidelines of production practices, certified by US inspection of farms and facilities, just as we have here in the US. Its likely that MRL standards will need to be assessed and met, yet there's no mention of MRL's in the regulation. The emphasis in the bill on phytosanitation for oriental fruit moth is outdated and concerns for newer invasive species should receive a hard review (too late for BMSB and SWD invasion over the pst 15 years, having caused millions of $$ in production and research loss). That said, China has not been known for their recent history of protecting human rights, product quality or safety standards and should be pressured into compliance by world markets to 'come clean'. Peter The best way out is always through - Robert Frost” Peter J. Jentsch Hudson Valley Laboratory Superintendent Senior Extension Associate - Entomology Department of Entomology, Cornell University Hudson Valley Research Lab P.O. Box 727, 3357 Rt. 9W Highland, NY 12528 Office: 845-691-7151 Cell: 845-417-7465 FAX: 845-691-2719 E-mail: p...@cornell.edu http://blogs.cornell.edu/jentsch/ From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net on behalf of Ginda Fisher l...@ginda.us Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 10:58 AM To: Apple-crop discussion list; Mike Arvay Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China? Speaking as an apple consumer, I have concerns about China driving down price, and therefore quality, of U.S. grown fruit. But I tend to avoid food and children's toys that come out of China. (Like everyone else, most of my clothes and electronics have Chinese components. And I've had no problems with that.) -- Typed with Swype. Who knows what I meant to say? On August 15, 2014 10:26:03 AM EDT, Mike Arvay greenap...@deercreekorchard.com wrote: I'm curious on what the group thinks about this proposed amendment to the U.S. Fruit and Vegetable Regulation which will allow the import of apples into the U.S. from China. I don't want this to become a All things from China are bad. thread. But I can see both negative and positive possibilities on allowing this. They do recommend additional measures and actions other than the standard Port of Entry Inspection. http://www.regulations.gov/?utm_source=hs_emailutm_medium=emailutm_content=13804591_hsenc=p2ANqtz--B9po2Wh9EOEarH4oSyBng8hr9QeyW3LJQbTqn5DyDzYxmuMr2ciJZaLS1t7JjLaavRgsui8ZQ9El8DY6ATo7HsWEkbg_hsmi=13804591#!documentDetail;D=APHIS-2014-0003-0001 Thanks. Mike Arvay Small Grower in Central Indiana. apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
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Well said Peter. Yet enforcement of practices requires transparency, regulatory monitoring and political will that are all lacking with respect to the US' premier competitor for prominence on the world stage as well as our second largest creditor (second only to the Federal Reserve Bank I think?). A plus: Chinese apples in the US market will result in a net increased demand for my U-Pick apples. Steven Bibula Plowshares Community Farm Gorham ME From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Peter J. Jentsch Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 12:53 PM To: Apple-crop discussion list Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China? China is the world's largest consumer of fruits and vegetables, with a growing appetite for high-quality produce. China is also an expanding import market (mostly fresh fruits and, to a lesser extent, processed products). The value of China's produce imports increased sevenfold between 1992 and 2001, making it one of the world's fastest growing import markets. (Global Trade Patterns in Fruits and Vegetables Economic Research Service/USDA). Yet China is producing almost half of world total apple production, increasing from 33,263,000; 35,985,000 and 37,000,000 metric tonnes from 2010, 2011 and 2012 respectively while increasing world exports by 10% between 2000 to 2006. (Source: World Markets and Trade, US Department of Agriculture, Foreign Agricultural Service, May 2007). However, 10%; volume in terms of of world export is only 3% of their China's total production!!! The US has been increasing their shipments of high volume fresh apple to China. We will likely continue increase of apple exports until China has ramped up their volume and quality of production. Its been my understanding that even the Chinese people prefer US apple due to food safety concerns. Western US apple trade to China and world markets may be well for Eastern growers as it will likely reduce the shipments of Washington State apples to eastern markets and increase supply for locally grown fruit? I would favor increased tree fruit trade with China under competitive trade conditions based on standardized production practices. As it now stands, the regulations do not require the use of production practice guidelines to the standards which U.S growers need to abide, creating a competitive disadvantage for the US tree fruit producer. Pest management practices, worker protection standards and child labor laws shouldnbsp; be instituted within the guidelines of production practices, certified by US inspection of farms and facilities, just as we have here in the US. Its likely that MRL standards will need to be assessed and met, yet there's no mention of MRL's in the regulation. The emphasis in the bill on phytosanitation for oriental fruit moth is outdated and concerns for newer invasive species should receive a hard review (too late for BMSB and SWD invasion over the pst 15 years, having caused millions of $$ in production and research loss). That said, China has not been known for their recent history of protecting human rights, product quality or safety standards and should be pressured into compliance by world markets to 'come clean'. Peter The best way out is always through - Robert Frost Peter J. Jentsch Hudson Valley Laboratory Superintendent Senior Extension Associate - Entomology Department of Entomology, Cornell University Hudson Valley Research Lab P.O. Box 727, 3357 Rt. 9W Highland, NY 12528 Office: 845-691-7151 Cell: 845-417-7465 FAX: 845-691-2719 E-mail: p...@cornell.edu http://blogs.cornell.edu/jentsch/ _ From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net on behalf of Ginda Fisher l...@ginda.us Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 10:58 AM To: Apple-crop discussion list; Mike Arvay Subject: Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China? Speaking as an apple consumer, I have concerns about China driving down price, and therefore quality, of U.S. grown fruit. But I tend to avoid food and children's toys that come out of China. (Like everyone else, most of my clothes and electronics have Chinese components. And I've had no problems with that.) -- Typed with Swype. Who knows what I meant to say? On August 15, 2014 10:26:03 AM EDT, Mike Arvay greenap...@deercreekorchard.com wrote: I'm curious on what the group thinks about this proposed amendment to the U.S. Fruit and Vegetable Regulation which will allow the import of apples into the U.S. from China. I don't want this to become a All things from China are bad. thread. But I can see both negative and positive possibilities on allowing this. They do recommend additional measures and actions other than the standard Port of Entry Inspection. http://www.regulations.gov/?utm_source=hs_email http://www.regulations.gov/?utm_source=hs_emailutm_medium=emailutm_conten t=13804591_hsenc=p2ANqtz--B9po2Wh9EOEarH4oSyBng8hr9QeyW3LJQbTqn5DyDzYxmuMr2
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The only Western country without a minimum wage is Switzerland. The unemployment rate there is 3%. A huge problem here in the US is that we pay people not to work (unemployment checks) and have a minimum wage. If the growers in China were forced to pay our wage rates, then there would be little problems with competition from them. However, this will never happen. For the US: 1. Get rid of minimum wage laws. 2. Reform the tort laws where law suits are at a minimum, and the loser must pay all court costs and attorney's fees. (Can you imagine suing your employer in China?) 3. Terminate all unemployment payments. In just a few weeks, a grower could hire workers dirt cheap. The market would then self correct. Otherwise, the restrictive regulations here in the US will put growers out of business. The problem is not China's cheap products, but the Federal and states government's expensive regulations. This is a no-brainer. On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Steven Bibula sbib...@maine.rr.com wrote: Well said Peter. Yet enforcement of practices requires transparency, regulatory monitoring and political will that are all lacking with respect to the US’ premier competitor for prominence on the world stage as well as our second largest creditor (second only to the Federal Reserve Bank I think?). A plus: Chinese apples in the US market will result in a net increased demand for my U-Pick apples. Steven Bibula Plowshares Community Farm Gorham ME *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] *On Behalf Of *Peter J. Jentsch *Sent:* Friday, August 15, 2014 12:53 PM *To:* Apple-crop discussion list *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China? China is the world’s largest consumer of fruits and vegetables, with a growing appetite for high-quality produce. China is also an expanding import market (mostly fresh fruits and, to a lesser extent, processed products). The value of China’s produce imports increased sevenfold between 1992 and 2001, making it one of the world’s fastest growing import markets. (Global Trade Patterns in Fruits and Vegetables Economic Research Service/USDA). Yet China is producing almost half of world total apple production, increasing from 33,263,000; 35,985,000 and 37,000,000 metric tonnes from 2010, 2011 and 2012 respectively while increasing world exports by 10% between 2000 to 2006. (Source: World Markets and Trade, US Department of Agriculture, Foreign Agricultural Service, May 2007). However, 10%; volume in terms of of world export is only 3% of their China's total production!!! The US has been increasing their shipments of high volume fresh apple to China. We will likely continue increase of apple exports until China has ramped up their volume and quality of production. Its been my understanding that even the Chinese people prefer US apple due to food safety concerns. Western US apple trade to China and world markets may be well for Eastern growers as it will likely reduce the shipments of Washington State apples to eastern markets and increase supply for locally grown fruit? I would favor increased tree fruit trade with China under competitive trade conditions based on standardized production practices. As it now stands, the regulations do not require the use of production practice guidelines to the standards which U.S growers need to abide, creating a competitive disadvantage for the US tree fruit producer. Pest management practices, worker protection standards and child labor laws shouldnbsp; be instituted within the guidelines of production practices, certified by US inspection of farms and facilities, just as we have here in the US. Its likely that MRL standards will need to be assessed and met, yet there's no mention of MRL's in the regulation. The emphasis in the bill on phytosanitation for oriental fruit moth is outdated and concerns for newer invasive species should receive a hard review (too late for BMSB and SWD invasion over the pst 15 years, having caused millions of $$ in production and research loss). That said, China has not been known for their recent history of protecting human rights, product quality or safety standards and should be pressured into compliance by world markets to 'come clean'. Peter The best way out is always through - Robert Frost” Peter J. Jentsch Hudson Valley Laboratory Superintendent Senior Extension Associate - Entomology Department of Entomology, Cornell University Hudson Valley Research Lab P.O. Box 727, 3357 Rt. 9W Highland, NY 12528 Office: 845-691-7151 Cell: 845-417-7465 FAX: 845-691-2719 E-mail: p...@cornell.edu http://blogs.cornell.edu/jentsch/ -- *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net on behalf of Ginda Fisher l...@ginda.us *Sent:* Friday, August 15, 2014 10:58 AM *To:* Apple-crop discussion list; Mike Arvay *Subject:*
Re: [apple-crop] Apples From China?
As long as China holds 15% or more of the US dept, the govt can't really tell China anything. I don't like importing anything that would harm American production(furniture, steel, etc.). A good businessman will diversify and change to stay ahead of the curve. A poor decision would be to keep planting trees in the US when we are at a competitive disadvantage with China, Chile and Argentina etc. If we have more supply than demand, simply decrease supply and prices will rise. 7th generation apple grower John On 8/15/2014 10:26 AM, Mike Arvay wrote: I'm curious on what the group thinks about this proposed amendment to the U.S. Fruit and Vegetable Regulation which will allow the import of apples into the U.S. from China. I don't want this to become a All things from China are bad. thread. But I can see both negative and positive possibilities on allowing this. They do recommend additional measures and actions other than the standard Port of Entry Inspection. http://www.regulations.gov/?utm_source=hs_emailutm_medium=emailutm_content=13804591_hsenc=p2ANqtz--, B9po2Wh9EOEarH4oSyBng8hr9QeyW3LJQbTqn5DyDzYxmuMr2ciJZaLS1t7JjLaavRgsui8ZQ9El8DY6ATo7HsWEkbg_hsmi=13804591#!documentDetail;D=APHIS-2014-0003-0001 Thanks. Mike Arvay Small Grower in Central Indiana. ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop -- * Dickie Bros. Orchard www.DickieBros.com Ph: (434) 277-5516* ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
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So far as I know, there is no political quid pro quo for decisions on what products can be imported into the US or exported to other countries, and scientific concerns about importation of pests are given serious consideration. Nevertheless, Bill’s suggestion about trading apples for flip-flops hints at some factors that may ultimately impact negotiator positioning. In this case, perhaps we should substitute “soybeans” for flip-flops. Has anyone checked recently to see the value of soybeans and other ag exports from the US to China? And then of course, we wouldn’t want to anger China into massive selling of the US securities that they have purchased over the past several decades while we spent our wealth on meaningless wars. Thus, we are inextricably linked in a world-wide economy that at times runs rough-shod over individual winners and losers. In many cases, it is almost impossible to predict who those winners and losers will be as governments tug on the economic and political strings that interconnect countries. Reducing or eliminating minimum wage laws and unemployment insurance would not and will not solve any apple farmer problems related to US competitive capabilities in the world market. It would only increase the inequities and distancing of haves and have-nots in our county, inequities that ultimately contributed to the riots in major cities in the 1960’s and that have contributed to current problems in Fergusson, MO. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.” It is very difficult to have a vibrant economy in the midst of anarchy. Increasing the gap between rich and poor while at the same time burning the bridges that allow social progress for those born into poverty will almost certainly increase the the probability of lawlessness among those without any hope for the future. Apple growers who think that they could live on the current minimum wage should try it for a year, recognizing of course that one must start the experiment without any housing, without a car, and with no credit rating. If you really believe that the free markets (i.e., no minimum wage, no unemployment benefits) will solve our problems consider this: We already have a health care system that ranks somewhere around 29th when compared with those of other nations (and that was true before Obamacare was instituted). Yet we pay a much higher price for our healthcare than Canada and the European countries that have better health care systems than we do, a fact that rather undermines the case that everything works fine if the government allows the free market (i.e., insurance and pharmaceutical companies and tort lawyers) to have their own way. Dave Rosenberger, Professor Emeritus Dept. of Plant Pathology and Plant-Microbe Biology Cornell’s Hudson Valley Lab, P.O. Box 727, Highland, NY 12528 Office: 845-691-7231Cell: 845-594-3060 http://blogs.cornell.edu/plantpathhvl/blog-2014/ On Aug 15, 2014, at 11:41 AM, Fleming, William w...@montana.edu wrote: To me it just seems strange that we would allow importing apples from any country when we depend on exports ourselves to market the excess amount of fruit we produce. Maybe I'm just looking at it with too much common sense. Then again many times in trade agreements allowing an import of a product is traded in exchange for export of another. Who knows, we might be trading apples for flip-flops. Doesn't benefit the apple grower but may benefit an entirely different industry, and a politician's campaign contributors. Bill Fleming Montana State University Western Ag Research Center 580 Quast Lane Corvallis, MT 59828 -Original Message- From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Mike Arvay Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 8:26 AM To: Apple-crop discussion list Subject: [apple-crop] Apples From China? I'm curious on what the group thinks about this proposed amendment to the U.S. Fruit and Vegetable Regulation which will allow the import of apples into the U.S. from China. I don't want this to become a All things from China are bad. thread. But I can see both negative and positive possibilities on allowing this. They do recommend additional measures and actions other than the standard Port of Entry Inspection. http://www.regulations.gov/?utm_source=hs_emailutm_medium=emailutm_content=13804591_hsenc=p2ANqtz--B9po2Wh9EOEarH4oSyBng8hr9QeyW3LJQbTqn5DyDzYxmuMr2ciJZaLS1t7JjLaavRgsui8ZQ9El8DY6ATo7HsWEkbg_hsmi=13804591#!documentDetail;D=APHIS-2014-0003-0001 Thanks. Mike Arvay Small Grower in Central Indiana. ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.net http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
