Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings

2017-05-11 Thread Mike Belco
I use Aim for weeds and suckers. It’s actually labeled for use on young suckers 
in apple trees.

Sucker Management
Aim EC is effective as an aid in the management of undesirable sucker
growth from the base of the trunks or root sprouts. Apply Aim EC at 2.0
fl. ozs. (0.031 pound active ingredient) per acre. Suckers and other
undesirable growth must be treated when the tissue is young and not
mature and/or hardened off. Care must be taken not to allow spray
mist to contact desirable fruit, foliage or green stem tissue (see
Precautions).
Hooded Sprayer Application

Mike Belco

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From: apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] On Behalf Of 
Wes Cherry
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 12:27 PM
To: Apple-Crop discussion list 
Subject: Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year 
Plantings

Thanks Mosbah,

That's a good list.

I am concerned about hitting root suckers with herbicides and impacting the 
tree.   Is there a recommended herbicide that will not be translocated and burn 
off the leaves of the suckers?   Then follow later with an application of a 
more effective herbicide.

-'//es Cherry
Dragon's Head Cider
Vashon Island, Wa US
www.dragonsheadcider.com<http://www.dragonsheadcider.com>



On May 10, 2017, at 8:18 AM, Kushad, Mosbah M 
mailto:kus...@illinois.edu>> wrote:
Doug: Here is a good list of herbicides and when to apply them. 
(http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/I/IPM-0011/IPM-0011.pdf).
there are a few that you may be able to use.. (for example Gromaxone, Rely, 
Fusilade, Post) read the label, but a hooded sprayer and protection of the tree 
trunk are highly encouraged.

Mosbah Kushad, University of Illinois

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Doug Nelson
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:56 AM
To: Apple-Crop discussion list 
mailto:apple-crop@virtualorchard.com>>
Subject: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year 
Plantings

I have a new tall spindle orchard planted in an alfalfa field this spring.  I 
did not realize how much work it would be to mechanically weed the orchard. All 
the orchards I have visited have told me not to use herbicides for the first 
year on newly planted trees. There is a conventional nursery across the street 
that uses barrier on new trees.

Does anyone have a herbicide they are using on new trees or stick to mechanical?

--
Doug Nelson
President
Nelson Multimedia Inc.
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Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings

2017-05-10 Thread maurice tougas
Try Scythe made by Gowan. It is quite a bit more expensive but also quite a
bit safer for someone new to the practice. It works similarly to Gramoxone
when used at the higher labeled rates.

Mo Tougas

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Kushad, Mosbah M 
wrote:

> Try Groamxone..It is a burning herbicide that we use to burn weeds and
> sometimes suckers. It contains Paraquat, which is not mobile inside the
> plant.  You do not want to use Roundup because it moves inside the suckers
> into the tree.. Mosbah
>
>
>
> *From:* apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Wes Cherry
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:27 AM
> *To:* Apple-Crop discussion list 
> *Subject:* Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on
> First Year Plantings
>
>
>
> Thanks Mosbah,
>
>
>
> That's a good list.
>
>
>
> I am concerned about hitting root suckers with herbicides and impacting
> the tree.   Is there a recommended herbicide that will not be translocated
> and burn off the leaves of the suckers?   Then follow later with an
> application of a more effective herbicide.
>
> -'//es Cherry
>
> Dragon's Head Cider
>
> Vashon Island, Wa US
>
> www.dragonsheadcider.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 10, 2017, at 8:18 AM, Kushad, Mosbah M  wrote:
>
> Doug: Here is a good list of herbicides and when to apply them. (
> http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/I/IPM-0011/IPM-0011.pdf).
>
> there are a few that you may be able to use.. (for example Gromaxone,
> Rely, Fusilade, Post) read the label, but a hooded sprayer and protection
> of the tree trunk are highly encouraged.
>
>
>
> Mosbah Kushad, University of Illinois
>
>
>
> *From:* apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Doug Nelson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:56 AM
> *To:* Apple-Crop discussion list 
> *Subject:* [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First
> Year Plantings
>
>
>
> I have a new tall spindle orchard planted in an alfalfa field this
> spring.  I did not realize how much work it would be to mechanically weed
> the orchard. All the orchards I have visited have told me not to use
> herbicides for the first year on newly planted trees. There is a
> conventional nursery across the street that uses barrier on new trees.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have a herbicide they are using on new trees or stick to
> mechanical?
>
>
>
> --
>
> Doug Nelson
>
> President
>
> Nelson Multimedia Inc.
>
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Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings

2017-05-10 Thread Evan B. Milburn

If legal, you can apply solicam and gromoxone with no problems.  
    

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{}#yiv3706591476 Try Groamxone..It is a burning herbicide that we use to burn 
weeds and sometimes suckers. It contains Paraquat, which is not mobile inside 
the plant.  You do not want to use Roundup because it moves inside the suckers 
into the tree.. Mosbah    From: apple-crop 
[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com]On Behalf Of Wes Cherry
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:27 AM
To: Apple-Crop discussion list 
Subject: Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year 
Plantings    Thanks Mosbah,     That's a good list.    I am concerned about 
hitting root suckers with herbicides and impacting the tree.   Is there a 
recommended herbicide that will not be translocated and burn off the leaves of 
the suckers?   Then follow later with an application of a more effective 
herbicide.

-'//es Cherry Dragon's Head Cider Vashon Island, Wa US www.dragonsheadcider.com 
      
On May 10, 2017, at 8:18 AM, Kushad, Mosbah M  wrote: 
Doug: Here is a good list of herbicides and when to apply them. 
(http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/I/IPM-0011/IPM-0011.pdf). there are a few that 
you may be able to use.. (for example Gromaxone, Rely, Fusilade, Post) read the 
label, but a hooded sprayer and protection of the tree trunk are highly 
encouraged.   Mosbah Kushad, University of Illinois    From: apple-crop 
[mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com]On Behalf Of Doug Nelson
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:56 AM
To: Apple-Crop discussion list 
Subject: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year 
Plantings   I have a new tall spindle orchard planted in an alfalfa field this 
spring.  I did not realize how much work it would be to mechanically weed the 
orchard. All the orchards I have visited have told me not to use herbicides for 
the first year on newly planted trees. There is a conventional nursery across 
the street that uses barrier on new trees.    Does anyone have a herbicide they 
are using on new trees or stick to mechanical?
   --  Doug Nelson President Nelson Multimedia Inc. 

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Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings

2017-05-10 Thread Kushad, Mosbah M
Try Groamxone..It is a burning herbicide that we use to burn weeds and 
sometimes suckers. It contains Paraquat, which is not mobile inside the plant.  
You do not want to use Roundup because it moves inside the suckers into the 
tree.. Mosbah

From: apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] On Behalf Of 
Wes Cherry
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:27 AM
To: Apple-Crop discussion list 
Subject: Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year 
Plantings

Thanks Mosbah,

That's a good list.

I am concerned about hitting root suckers with herbicides and impacting the 
tree.   Is there a recommended herbicide that will not be translocated and burn 
off the leaves of the suckers?   Then follow later with an application of a 
more effective herbicide.

-'//es Cherry
Dragon's Head Cider
Vashon Island, Wa US
www.dragonsheadcider.com<http://www.dragonsheadcider.com>



On May 10, 2017, at 8:18 AM, Kushad, Mosbah M 
mailto:kus...@illinois.edu>> wrote:
Doug: Here is a good list of herbicides and when to apply them. 
(http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/I/IPM-0011/IPM-0011.pdf).
there are a few that you may be able to use.. (for example Gromaxone, Rely, 
Fusilade, Post) read the label, but a hooded sprayer and protection of the tree 
trunk are highly encouraged.

Mosbah Kushad, University of Illinois

From: apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] On Behalf Of 
Doug Nelson
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:56 AM
To: Apple-Crop discussion list 
mailto:apple-crop@virtualorchard.com>>
Subject: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year 
Plantings

I have a new tall spindle orchard planted in an alfalfa field this spring.  I 
did not realize how much work it would be to mechanically weed the orchard. All 
the orchards I have visited have told me not to use herbicides for the first 
year on newly planted trees. There is a conventional nursery across the street 
that uses barrier on new trees.

Does anyone have a herbicide they are using on new trees or stick to mechanical?

--
Doug Nelson
President
Nelson Multimedia Inc.
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Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings

2017-05-10 Thread Wes Cherry
Thanks Mosbah, 

That's a good list.

I am concerned about hitting root suckers with herbicides and impacting the 
tree.   Is there a recommended herbicide that will not be translocated and burn 
off the leaves of the suckers?   Then follow later with an application of a 
more effective herbicide.

-'//es Cherry
Dragon's Head Cider
Vashon Island, Wa US
www.dragonsheadcider.com



> On May 10, 2017, at 8:18 AM, Kushad, Mosbah M  wrote:
> 
> Doug: Here is a good list of herbicides and when to apply them. 
> (http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/I/IPM-0011/IPM-0011.pdf).
> there are a few that you may be able to use.. (for example Gromaxone, Rely, 
> Fusilade, Post) read the label, but a hooded sprayer and protection of the 
> tree trunk are highly encouraged.
>  
> Mosbah Kushad, University of Illinois 
>  
> From: apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] On Behalf Of 
> Doug Nelson
> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:56 AM
> To: Apple-Crop discussion list 
> Subject: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year 
> Plantings
>  
> I have a new tall spindle orchard planted in an alfalfa field this spring.  I 
> did not realize how much work it would be to mechanically weed the orchard. 
> All the orchards I have visited have told me not to use herbicides for the 
> first year on newly planted trees. There is a conventional nursery across the 
> street that uses barrier on new trees. 
>  
> Does anyone have a herbicide they are using on new trees or stick to 
> mechanical?
>  
> --
> Doug Nelson
> President
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Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings

2017-05-10 Thread Kushad, Mosbah M
Doug: Here is a good list of herbicides and when to apply them. 
(http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/I/IPM-0011/IPM-0011.pdf).
there are a few that you may be able to use.. (for example Gromaxone, Rely, 
Fusilade, Post) read the label, but a hooded sprayer and protection of the tree 
trunk are highly encouraged.

Mosbah Kushad, University of Illinois

From: apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] On Behalf Of 
Doug Nelson
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:56 AM
To: Apple-Crop discussion list 
Subject: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year 
Plantings

I have a new tall spindle orchard planted in an alfalfa field this spring.  I 
did not realize how much work it would be to mechanically weed the orchard. All 
the orchards I have visited have told me not to use herbicides for the first 
year on newly planted trees. There is a conventional nursery across the street 
that uses barrier on new trees.

Does anyone have a herbicide they are using on new trees or stick to mechanical?

--
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President
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Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings

2017-05-10 Thread john
Have used gramoxone for decades with pre-emergent no problemJohn


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[Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings 
I have a new tall spindle orchard planted in an alfalfa field this spring.  I 
did not realize how much work it would be to mechanically weed the orchard. All 
the orchards I have visited have told me not to use herbicides for the first 
year on newly planted trees. There is a conventional nursery across the street 
that uses barrier on new trees. 
Does anyone have a herbicide they are using on new trees or stick to mechanical?

-- 
Doug NelsonPresidentNelson Multimedia Inc.

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