Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings
I use Aim for weeds and suckers. It’s actually labeled for use on young suckers in apple trees. Sucker Management Aim EC is effective as an aid in the management of undesirable sucker growth from the base of the trunks or root sprouts. Apply Aim EC at 2.0 fl. ozs. (0.031 pound active ingredient) per acre. Suckers and other undesirable growth must be treated when the tissue is young and not mature and/or hardened off. Care must be taken not to allow spray mist to contact desirable fruit, foliage or green stem tissue (see Precautions). Hooded Sprayer Application Mike Belco Integrated Pest Management Specialist Ruth Mott Foundation/Applewood 1400 E. Kearsley Street Flint, Mi 48503 (810) 396-3111 www.applewood.org<http://www.ruthmottfoundation.org/applewood/> [http://www.ruthmottfoundation.org/uploads/images/email/rmf-logo.jpg] [http://www.ruthmottfoundation.org/uploads/images/email/facebook.jpg]<https://www.facebook.com/ApplewoodEstate> [http://www.ruthmottfoundation.org/uploads/images/email/flickr.jpg]<http://www.flickr.com/photos/applewoodrmf/sets/72157629286276410/> [http://www.ruthmottfoundation.org/uploads/images/email/youtube.jpg]<http://www.youtube.com/user/ApplewoodRMF?feature=mhee> From: apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] On Behalf Of Wes Cherry Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 12:27 PM To: Apple-Crop discussion list Subject: Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings Thanks Mosbah, That's a good list. I am concerned about hitting root suckers with herbicides and impacting the tree. Is there a recommended herbicide that will not be translocated and burn off the leaves of the suckers? Then follow later with an application of a more effective herbicide. -'//es Cherry Dragon's Head Cider Vashon Island, Wa US www.dragonsheadcider.com<http://www.dragonsheadcider.com> On May 10, 2017, at 8:18 AM, Kushad, Mosbah M mailto:kus...@illinois.edu>> wrote: Doug: Here is a good list of herbicides and when to apply them. (http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/I/IPM-0011/IPM-0011.pdf). there are a few that you may be able to use.. (for example Gromaxone, Rely, Fusilade, Post) read the label, but a hooded sprayer and protection of the tree trunk are highly encouraged. Mosbah Kushad, University of Illinois From: apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] On Behalf Of Doug Nelson Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:56 AM To: Apple-Crop discussion list mailto:apple-crop@virtualorchard.com>> Subject: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings I have a new tall spindle orchard planted in an alfalfa field this spring. I did not realize how much work it would be to mechanically weed the orchard. All the orchards I have visited have told me not to use herbicides for the first year on newly planted trees. There is a conventional nursery across the street that uses barrier on new trees. Does anyone have a herbicide they are using on new trees or stick to mechanical? -- Doug Nelson President Nelson Multimedia Inc. ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.com<mailto:apple-crop@virtualorchard.com> http://virtualorchard.com/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.com http://virtualorchard.com/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings
Try Scythe made by Gowan. It is quite a bit more expensive but also quite a bit safer for someone new to the practice. It works similarly to Gramoxone when used at the higher labeled rates. Mo Tougas On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Kushad, Mosbah M wrote: > Try Groamxone..It is a burning herbicide that we use to burn weeds and > sometimes suckers. It contains Paraquat, which is not mobile inside the > plant. You do not want to use Roundup because it moves inside the suckers > into the tree.. Mosbah > > > > *From:* apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] *On > Behalf Of *Wes Cherry > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:27 AM > *To:* Apple-Crop discussion list > *Subject:* Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on > First Year Plantings > > > > Thanks Mosbah, > > > > That's a good list. > > > > I am concerned about hitting root suckers with herbicides and impacting > the tree. Is there a recommended herbicide that will not be translocated > and burn off the leaves of the suckers? Then follow later with an > application of a more effective herbicide. > > -'//es Cherry > > Dragon's Head Cider > > Vashon Island, Wa US > > www.dragonsheadcider.com > > > > > > > On May 10, 2017, at 8:18 AM, Kushad, Mosbah M wrote: > > Doug: Here is a good list of herbicides and when to apply them. ( > http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/I/IPM-0011/IPM-0011.pdf). > > there are a few that you may be able to use.. (for example Gromaxone, > Rely, Fusilade, Post) read the label, but a hooded sprayer and protection > of the tree trunk are highly encouraged. > > > > Mosbah Kushad, University of Illinois > > > > *From:* apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Doug Nelson > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:56 AM > *To:* Apple-Crop discussion list > *Subject:* [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First > Year Plantings > > > > I have a new tall spindle orchard planted in an alfalfa field this > spring. I did not realize how much work it would be to mechanically weed > the orchard. All the orchards I have visited have told me not to use > herbicides for the first year on newly planted trees. There is a > conventional nursery across the street that uses barrier on new trees. > > > > Does anyone have a herbicide they are using on new trees or stick to > mechanical? > > > > -- > > Doug Nelson > > President > > Nelson Multimedia Inc. > > ___ > apple-crop mailing list > apple-crop@virtualorchard.com > http://virtualorchard.com/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > > > ___ > apple-crop mailing list > apple-crop@virtualorchard.com > http://virtualorchard.com/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > > -- Maurice Tougas Tougas Family Farm Northborough,MA 01532 508-450-0844 ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.com http://virtualorchard.com/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings
If legal, you can apply solicam and gromoxone with no problems. On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 12:54 PM, "Kushad, Mosbah M" wrote: #yiv3706591476 #yiv3706591476 -- _filtered #yiv3706591476 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv3706591476 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}#yiv3706591476 #yiv3706591476 p.yiv3706591476MsoNormal, #yiv3706591476 li.yiv3706591476MsoNormal, #yiv3706591476 div.yiv3706591476MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv3706591476 a:link, #yiv3706591476 span.yiv3706591476MsoHyperlink {color:#0563C1;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv3706591476 a:visited, #yiv3706591476 span.yiv3706591476MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv3706591476 p.yiv3706591476msonormal0, #yiv3706591476 li.yiv3706591476msonormal0, #yiv3706591476 div.yiv3706591476msonormal0 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv3706591476 span.yiv3706591476EmailStyle18 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv3706591476 span.yiv3706591476EmailStyle19 {color:windowtext;}#yiv3706591476 span.yiv3706591476EmailStyle20 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv3706591476 .yiv3706591476MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv3706591476 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv3706591476 div.yiv3706591476WordSection1 {}#yiv3706591476 Try Groamxone..It is a burning herbicide that we use to burn weeds and sometimes suckers. It contains Paraquat, which is not mobile inside the plant. You do not want to use Roundup because it moves inside the suckers into the tree.. Mosbah From: apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com]On Behalf Of Wes Cherry Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:27 AM To: Apple-Crop discussion list Subject: Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings Thanks Mosbah, That's a good list. I am concerned about hitting root suckers with herbicides and impacting the tree. Is there a recommended herbicide that will not be translocated and burn off the leaves of the suckers? Then follow later with an application of a more effective herbicide. -'//es Cherry Dragon's Head Cider Vashon Island, Wa US www.dragonsheadcider.com On May 10, 2017, at 8:18 AM, Kushad, Mosbah M wrote: Doug: Here is a good list of herbicides and when to apply them. (http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/I/IPM-0011/IPM-0011.pdf). there are a few that you may be able to use.. (for example Gromaxone, Rely, Fusilade, Post) read the label, but a hooded sprayer and protection of the tree trunk are highly encouraged. Mosbah Kushad, University of Illinois From: apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com]On Behalf Of Doug Nelson Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:56 AM To: Apple-Crop discussion list Subject: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings I have a new tall spindle orchard planted in an alfalfa field this spring. I did not realize how much work it would be to mechanically weed the orchard. All the orchards I have visited have told me not to use herbicides for the first year on newly planted trees. There is a conventional nursery across the street that uses barrier on new trees. Does anyone have a herbicide they are using on new trees or stick to mechanical? -- Doug Nelson President Nelson Multimedia Inc. ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.com http://virtualorchard.com/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.com http://virtualorchard.com/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.com http://virtualorchard.com/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings
Try Groamxone..It is a burning herbicide that we use to burn weeds and sometimes suckers. It contains Paraquat, which is not mobile inside the plant. You do not want to use Roundup because it moves inside the suckers into the tree.. Mosbah From: apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] On Behalf Of Wes Cherry Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:27 AM To: Apple-Crop discussion list Subject: Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings Thanks Mosbah, That's a good list. I am concerned about hitting root suckers with herbicides and impacting the tree. Is there a recommended herbicide that will not be translocated and burn off the leaves of the suckers? Then follow later with an application of a more effective herbicide. -'//es Cherry Dragon's Head Cider Vashon Island, Wa US www.dragonsheadcider.com<http://www.dragonsheadcider.com> On May 10, 2017, at 8:18 AM, Kushad, Mosbah M mailto:kus...@illinois.edu>> wrote: Doug: Here is a good list of herbicides and when to apply them. (http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/I/IPM-0011/IPM-0011.pdf). there are a few that you may be able to use.. (for example Gromaxone, Rely, Fusilade, Post) read the label, but a hooded sprayer and protection of the tree trunk are highly encouraged. Mosbah Kushad, University of Illinois From: apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] On Behalf Of Doug Nelson Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:56 AM To: Apple-Crop discussion list mailto:apple-crop@virtualorchard.com>> Subject: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings I have a new tall spindle orchard planted in an alfalfa field this spring. I did not realize how much work it would be to mechanically weed the orchard. All the orchards I have visited have told me not to use herbicides for the first year on newly planted trees. There is a conventional nursery across the street that uses barrier on new trees. Does anyone have a herbicide they are using on new trees or stick to mechanical? -- Doug Nelson President Nelson Multimedia Inc. ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.com<mailto:apple-crop@virtualorchard.com> http://virtualorchard.com/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.com http://virtualorchard.com/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings
Thanks Mosbah, That's a good list. I am concerned about hitting root suckers with herbicides and impacting the tree. Is there a recommended herbicide that will not be translocated and burn off the leaves of the suckers? Then follow later with an application of a more effective herbicide. -'//es Cherry Dragon's Head Cider Vashon Island, Wa US www.dragonsheadcider.com > On May 10, 2017, at 8:18 AM, Kushad, Mosbah M wrote: > > Doug: Here is a good list of herbicides and when to apply them. > (http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/I/IPM-0011/IPM-0011.pdf). > there are a few that you may be able to use.. (for example Gromaxone, Rely, > Fusilade, Post) read the label, but a hooded sprayer and protection of the > tree trunk are highly encouraged. > > Mosbah Kushad, University of Illinois > > From: apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] On Behalf Of > Doug Nelson > Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:56 AM > To: Apple-Crop discussion list > Subject: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year > Plantings > > I have a new tall spindle orchard planted in an alfalfa field this spring. I > did not realize how much work it would be to mechanically weed the orchard. > All the orchards I have visited have told me not to use herbicides for the > first year on newly planted trees. There is a conventional nursery across the > street that uses barrier on new trees. > > Does anyone have a herbicide they are using on new trees or stick to > mechanical? > > -- > Doug Nelson > President > Nelson Multimedia Inc. > ___ > apple-crop mailing list > apple-crop@virtualorchard.com > http://virtualorchard.com/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.com http://virtualorchard.com/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings
Doug: Here is a good list of herbicides and when to apply them. (http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/I/IPM-0011/IPM-0011.pdf). there are a few that you may be able to use.. (for example Gromaxone, Rely, Fusilade, Post) read the label, but a hooded sprayer and protection of the tree trunk are highly encouraged. Mosbah Kushad, University of Illinois From: apple-crop [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.com] On Behalf Of Doug Nelson Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:56 AM To: Apple-Crop discussion list Subject: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings I have a new tall spindle orchard planted in an alfalfa field this spring. I did not realize how much work it would be to mechanically weed the orchard. All the orchards I have visited have told me not to use herbicides for the first year on newly planted trees. There is a conventional nursery across the street that uses barrier on new trees. Does anyone have a herbicide they are using on new trees or stick to mechanical? -- Doug Nelson President Nelson Multimedia Inc. ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.com http://virtualorchard.com/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
Re: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings
Have used gramoxone for decades with pre-emergent no problemJohn Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7. Original message From: Doug Nelson Date: 5/10/17 9:56 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Apple-Crop discussion list Subject: [Apple-Crop] Newbie Orchardist questions Herbicide on First Year Plantings I have a new tall spindle orchard planted in an alfalfa field this spring. I did not realize how much work it would be to mechanically weed the orchard. All the orchards I have visited have told me not to use herbicides for the first year on newly planted trees. There is a conventional nursery across the street that uses barrier on new trees. Does anyone have a herbicide they are using on new trees or stick to mechanical? -- Doug NelsonPresidentNelson Multimedia Inc. ___ apple-crop mailing list apple-crop@virtualorchard.com http://virtualorchard.com/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop