[arch-dev-public] Signoff report for [testing]

2015-04-21 Thread Arch Website Notification
=== Signoff report for [testing] === https://www.archlinux.org/packages/signoffs/ There are currently: * 29 new packages in last 24 hours * 0 known bad packages * 0 packages not accepting signoffs * 5 fully signed off packages * 40 packages missing signoffs * 0 packages older than 14 days (Note:

Re: [arch-dev-public] Dropping vi and adding vim-minimal to the installation image

2015-04-21 Thread Allan McRae
On 30/03/15 08:29, Allan McRae wrote: On 30/03/15 01:15, Evangelos Foutras wrote: This was discussed about two years ago but no action was taken. The proposal is simple: - Drop the vi package from the repos - Add vim-minimal to the installation image This seems like a good idea because

Re: [arch-dev-public] Dropping vi and adding vim-minimal to the installation image

2015-04-21 Thread Jan Alexander Steffens
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Evangelos Foutras evange...@foutrelis.com wrote: On 22/04/15 00:49, Allan McRae wrote: I think the symlink is very important. And I am very against VIsudo calling anything other than vi by default. Unless you rename it nanosudo. The problem is that vim is

Re: [arch-dev-public] Dropping vi and adding vim-minimal to the installation image

2015-04-21 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On 22/04/15 01:05, Jan Alexander Steffens wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Evangelos Foutras evange...@foutrelis.com wrote: On 22/04/15 00:49, Allan McRae wrote: I think the symlink is very important. And I am very against VIsudo calling anything other than vi by default. Unless you

Re: [arch-dev-public] Dropping vi and adding vim-minimal to the installation image

2015-04-21 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On 21/04/15 23:45, Jerome Leclanche wrote: As long as the EDITOR variable is supported by those programs, maybe yes. But I don't think creating a symlink *anyway* and make vim provide vi is inappropriate. Yes, the VISUAL/EDITOR environment variables should still be honored by these

Re: [arch-dev-public] Dropping vi and adding vim-minimal to the installation image

2015-04-21 Thread Jerome Leclanche
On 21 April 2015 at 22:32, Evangelos Foutras evange...@foutrelis.com wrote: On 21/04/15 16:27, Allan McRae wrote: What happened to adding a symlink? Now there is no vi in base, many packages there are broken out of the box - sudo (visudo), bash (bashbug), less (when pressing v). There is

Re: [arch-dev-public] Dropping vi and adding vim-minimal to the installation image

2015-04-21 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On 21/04/15 16:27, Allan McRae wrote: What happened to adding a symlink? Now there is no vi in base, many packages there are broken out of the box - sudo (visudo), bash (bashbug), less (when pressing v). There is bound to be more... Or are we having all those packages depend on vim?

Re: [arch-dev-public] Dropping vi and adding vim-minimal to the installation image

2015-04-21 Thread Allan McRae
On 22/04/15 07:00, Evangelos Foutras wrote: On 21/04/15 23:45, Jerome Leclanche wrote: As long as the EDITOR variable is supported by those programs, maybe yes. But I don't think creating a symlink *anyway* and make vim provide vi is inappropriate. Yes, the VISUAL/EDITOR environment

Re: [arch-dev-public] Dropping vi and adding vim-minimal to the installation image

2015-04-21 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On 22/04/15 01:30, Evangelos Foutras wrote: On 22/04/15 01:05, Jan Alexander Steffens wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Evangelos Foutras evange...@foutrelis.com wrote: On 22/04/15 00:49, Allan McRae wrote: I think the symlink is very important. And I am very against VIsudo calling

Re: [arch-dev-public] Dropping vi and adding vim-minimal to the installation image

2015-04-21 Thread Allan McRae
On 22/04/15 10:58, Evangelos Foutras wrote: I feel a stronger case would need to be made for moving vim-minimal to [core]. At the moment we're only trying to figure out a sane fallback editor, mostly for visudo and I guess cronie's crontab. nano seems to fit the bill and requires no additional

Re: [arch-dev-public] Dropping vi and adding vim-minimal to the installation image

2015-04-21 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On 22/04/15 04:08, Allan McRae wrote: On 22/04/15 10:58, Evangelos Foutras wrote: I feel a stronger case would need to be made for moving vim-minimal to [core]. At the moment we're only trying to figure out a sane fallback editor, mostly for visudo and I guess cronie's crontab. nano seems to

Re: [arch-dev-public] Dropping vi and adding vim-minimal to the installation image

2015-04-21 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On 22/04/15 02:57, Allan McRae wrote: On 22/04/15 08:55, Evangelos Foutras wrote: By the way, it's worth noting that vim-minimal has a footprint of about 30 MiB. It's not much, but compared to nano's 2 MiB, it's way larger. I'm probably repeating what I've written in my previous posts, but to

Re: [arch-dev-public] Dropping vi and adding vim-minimal to the installation image

2015-04-21 Thread Allan McRae
On 22/04/15 08:55, Evangelos Foutras wrote: On 22/04/15 01:30, Evangelos Foutras wrote: On 22/04/15 01:05, Jan Alexander Steffens wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:03 AM, Evangelos Foutras evange...@foutrelis.com wrote: On 22/04/15 00:49, Allan McRae wrote: I think the symlink is very