Economist IQ?

2003-12-15 Thread Stephen Miller
I doubt anyone has hard data on this, but I'm wondering what people on this
list would guess is the average IQ of Ph.D. economists?  Would it be much
different from the average IQ of Ph.D.s in general?


Re: Economist IQ?

2003-12-15 Thread Rodney F Weiher
Why not look at GRE scores (or do they still require GREs?)

Rodney Weiher

Stephen Miller wrote:

 I doubt anyone has hard data on this, but I'm wondering what people on this
 list would guess is the average IQ of Ph.D. economists?  Would it be much
 different from the average IQ of Ph.D.s in general?


Re: Economist IQ?

2003-12-15 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
At Chicago, econ math GRE's tend to be substantially higher than other
social science Ph.D.'s. Verbal scores are comparable to humanities
Ph.D.'s. Also remember that econ depts take a lot of asian students, which
probably pushes down the verbal GRE score. More generally, any time you
require math, you get higher caliber people.

IMHO, the highest quality social science students tend to be in econ Ph.D.
programs. By doing well in calculus and statistics, they've singalled a
great deal of ability. This doesn't happen in other fields, and many
social science undergrad programs tend to be watered down. For ex, the soc
dept at Berkeley (my alma mater) does not require a course in introductory
statistics. Instead, they require one semester of quantitative reasoning,
which can be fulfilled with just about anything. Contrast that with
economics, where you simply can't graduate from a top program without
about a year of calculus.

OTOH, economists are probably lower IQ than many physical science
Ph.D.'s. IIRC from the Chicago statistics on GRE's, it was typical for
non-biology science Ph.D.'s to have nearly perfect math scores.

Fabio

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Rodney F Weiher wrote:

 Why not look at GRE scores (or do they still require GREs?)

 Rodney Weiher

 Stephen Miller wrote:

  I doubt anyone has hard data on this, but I'm wondering what people on this
  list would guess is the average IQ of Ph.D. economists?  Would it be much
  different from the average IQ of Ph.D.s in general?



Re: Economist IQ?

2003-12-15 Thread zgocheno
A far cry from perfect, but if you use the GRE as a test of intelligence, economics 
PhD students are the fourth most intelligent behind physicists, mathematicians, and 
computer scientists - according to the ETS in 2002.  Mean scores for engineering (in 
some forms) are not much lower - but anthropology, archaeology, history, political 
science, theology, sociology, and communications are all fields with significantly 
lower scores.

I suspect intuitively, due to a number of reasons - mostly the analytical nature of 
the field and the mathematical rigor - that economists are significantly more 
intelligent than PhDs in many other fields.  But probably not all fields, and maybe 
not even most.

- Zac Gochenour
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message -
From: Stephen Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, December 15, 2003 10:40 am
Subject: Economist IQ?

 I doubt anyone has hard data on this, but I'm wondering what
 people on this
 list would guess is the average IQ of Ph.D. economists?  Would it
 be much
 different from the average IQ of Ph.D.s in general?




Re: Economist IQ?

2003-12-15 Thread Bryan Caplan
Do you have a cite for that, Zach?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A far cry from perfect, but if you use the GRE as a test of intelligence, economics PhD students are the fourth most intelligent behind physicists, mathematicians, and computer scientists - according to the ETS in 2002.  Mean scores for engineering (in some forms) are not much lower - but anthropology, archaeology, history, political science, theology, sociology, and communications are all fields with significantly lower scores.

I suspect intuitively, due to a number of reasons - mostly the analytical nature of the field and the mathematical rigor - that economists are significantly more intelligent than PhDs in many other fields.  But probably not all fields, and maybe not even most.

- Zac Gochenour
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, December 15, 2003 10:40 am
Subject: Economist IQ?

I doubt anyone has hard data on this, but I'm wondering what
people on this
list would guess is the average IQ of Ph.D. economists?  Would it
be much
different from the average IQ of Ph.D.s in general?




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Prof. Bryan Caplan
   Department of Economics  George Mason University
http://www.bcaplan.com  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Economist IQ?

2003-12-15 Thread fabio guillermo rojas
In the book Sociology and its publics, Neil Smelser has a chart
comparing GRE's for various disciplines. His point was that sociology, in
comparison to other social sciences such as economics, get bad recruits.

Fabio

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Bryan Caplan wrote:

 Do you have a cite for that, Zach?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  A far cry from perfect, but if you use the GRE as a test of intelligence, 
  economics PhD students are the fourth most intelligent behind physicists, 
  mathematicians, and computer scientists - according to the ETS in 2002.  Mean 
  scores for engineering (in some forms) are not much lower - but anthropology, 
  archaeology, history, political science, theology, sociology, and communications 
  are all fields with significantly lower scores.
 
  I suspect intuitively, due to a number of reasons - mostly the analytical nature 
  of the field and the mathematical rigor - that economists are significantly more 
  intelligent than PhDs in many other fields.  But probably not all fields, and 
  maybe not even most.
 
  - Zac Gochenour
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Stephen Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Monday, December 15, 2003 10:40 am
  Subject: Economist IQ?
 
 
 I doubt anyone has hard data on this, but I'm wondering what
 people on this
 list would guess is the average IQ of Ph.D. economists?  Would it
 be much
 different from the average IQ of Ph.D.s in general?
 
 
 
 
 

 --
  Prof. Bryan Caplan
 Department of Economics  George Mason University
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