Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?
Asam Sahitya Sabha president Kanaksen Deka today made an appeal to the people to wage an all out battle against inferiority complex that is afflicting the life of the State's people Reflects only his own Complex with his inferior body, mind ,looks , convictions. Assamese now feel Superior to Indians. There is no other battle but to attain Sovereignty-- in spite of BJPs Wont give an inch of India ( Back to the Assamese). Inferiority complex- ICX- has made the State's people opt for English instead of their own language in all spheres of their life. This complex is luring the guardians to send their wards to the English medium schools. This is against the basic doctrines of education, which speak of imparting education at the primary level through mother tongues. He handles the language poorly.That is #1. People in Assam do not( use)OPT English#2-. Did he say that or did AT in their kind of English? ICX luring Guardians send wards to EM Schools?#3 % Easy-money city types + CBSE+Central schools Doctrines of education, which speak of imparting education at the primary level#4 Whose doctrine,Why? He also made an appeal to all the peoples living in the State to consider their newly found aspiration for recognition as nations against the background of globalisation. The concept of nation is taking a back seat even in Europe and the concept of a European Union is gaining ground instead amongst the European nations nowadays. It was in Europe that the concept of nation had sprung up following the Industrial Revolution, he said. Appealed to all the peoples living in the State to consider their newly found aspiration for recognition as Nations to all the peoples Define this. their newly found aspiration for recognition Again define. What atrocious English!And Guwaal Gali? . It was in Europe that the concept of nation had sprung up following the Industrial Revolution, he said.The dumb crowd might have even applauded him on his Erotic!! History but how about Britain, France, Spain, Germany Russia, Italy,Greece, Turkey before the Ind,Rev.they were all therestill are there!!. Grant of autonomy to many ethnic groups has also led to social conflicts in many areas of the State. This is due to the contradiction among the dominant ethnic groups the general population living in these autonomous areas. All such conflicts should be resolved through steps to promote amity among the people living in these areas, he said. Why cant he call a spade a spade? Bodoland Autonomous Council is a passing phase. A few Feel-Good Agents enjoying Good Life for a few days. NDFB will call the final shots with ULFA. Agentsare harming nobody. He also asserted that any arrangement for autonomy without a provision for percolation of power down to the grass root level was meaningless. Such arrangements for autonomy creates a new type of oligarchy and the common people continue to languish as usual. Did he mean the BODOLand situation here? If so, OK. If Ulfa-they want nothing short of Freedom, Sovereignty! But for the maladies of terrorism, group conflict and the like confronting the State's society, he said, economic backwardness was the main factor. But for Poor English!-does he mean Except for???what??? Lets be Charitable-Say he means that ULFA is Terrorizing because of Economic Backwardness. Facts are otherwise :India Govt is terrorizing and free looting because this Superpower to-be is in a tight Economic spot- in spite of their hypes and spins. Group Conflict: People think Genocide in Karbia strategic act byRAW- like Secret Killings, Parag Das . Now, all above are Xahitya? What is their annual production target? Products being? And Why did he suddenly Resign? mm From:"Ram Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.orgSubject:[Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?Date:Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:08:44 -0600 Highlights are mine. Some questions/comments though: "Inferiority complex has made the State's people opt for English instead of their own language in all spheres of their life." I think people learn English because its useful. Does knowing English, give one a 'superiority' edge? I don't think so. "He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent controversy concerning the definition of the Assamese people" One would have thought that a body like the Sahitya Sabha would be the right body to define who is an Assamese if need be. an how about this one below? "He also asserted that any arrangement for autonomy without a provision for percolation of power down to the grass root level was meaningless. Such arrangements for autonomy creates a new type of oligarchy and the common people continue to languish as usual" Await readers' comments. Expand base of Assamese society - ATBy A Staff ReporterGUWAHATI, Feb 16 Asam Sahitya Sabha president Kanaksen Deka today made an appeal to the people to wage an all out battle against inferiority
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?
Hi C'da: Guwahati :-). You might find it interesting to learn that fully one third of the couples ( at least) of my small village co-habit without EVER getting married. They just live together. And even highly developed counties Hori Bishtu, Hori Bishtu, C'da. Ki bhejal kotha eta kole` baaru, taate` akouei xobha-ghorot? Just because you weren't invited to the weddings does not mean that they were never married! All they did was that they went to the nearest Shiva-temple and offered tamul-paan to the priest to get the blessings to live like Horo-Gouri, probably,just didn't have enough to treat the whole village (including you)just for that occasion. :) From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Ram Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.orgSubject: Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:25:35 -0600 At 5:23 PM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, *** Very slippery one this Ram--you are trying to rescue GoI again aren't you? No, not really - but if Assamese demand that of the GOI, wouldn't they have to know which group of people they are talking about, which group needs "protection" from the GOI so as not to become a minority in Assam. *** They ought to. But WHO do you hear from? Is it the people? Or is it the rags feeding out of MHA hands and spewing RAW sewage, and the politicians? The other day you observed that Rs. 1,000 is no big deal -- if it were to be levied as a fee for registering marriages. Shows how uninformed you are about Assam's realities. I don't blame you. You grew up at Guwahati :-). You might find it interesting to learn that fully one third of the couples ( at least) of my small village co-habit without EVER getting married. They just live together. And even highly developed counties with the best of civil institutions still recognize such unions -- as common-law couples. Because there are so many of them. (A case for protecting Assam from the unscrupulous Indians?) *** Are you suggesting that it is NOT an issue? If it is not, will you care to explain WHY? I explained WHY it is so. You did not explain why you take issue with my explanation. If you are serious about understanding the issues you would have at least explained why you do not agree. But you chose merely to re-iterate your own politically motivated and pre-conceived notions Ram. (Building a case why illegal immigration is important to Assam's economy - nay its survival?) *** Ditto the above again. You do not take a position on HOW you propose to resolve te problem, You do not fail to pay lip-service to the fact that it is a human problem too, as a perfunctory ritual, But you do not attempt to explain how it should be dealt with, and by WHOM. Instead you try to devalue it by equating my explanations about the Cown belt /Bollywood invasion of the NE with my concerns about the human aspects of the B'deshi migration. That is your choice. But it demonstrates that all you are interested in is protecting the Indian carpet-baggers' interests in Assam, while being oblivious of the poor migrants from B'desh, a far less powerful or influential group than the former. c-da *** Again, who an Assamese is is a FAKE question. Yes, that could be a fake question. Maybe the question is who else is trying to get into the Assamese bandwagon for ulterior motives, and who is trying to include others into this group? You seem to have more of a soft corner for the B'deshi illegals than for the Bihari thelawala -:) What gives C'da? *** What is the reason for your making this conclusion Ram? Can you explain? I was trying to deduce - maybe I am wrong, but you could clarify your statements below: there indeed is a distinction between those ( of different ethnic identities) who are indigenous peoples, and those who are in Assam as carpetbaggers--to exploit it, but have never accepted it as a home, regardless of how many generations they might have lived in its geographical boundaries. (A case for protecting Assam from the unscrupulous Indians?) and Besides, there is a HUMAN issue too. It is a POLITICAL problem in addition to one of legalities, just like the millions of undocumented aliens in the USA. Why do you think California won't deport all the undocumented Mexicans or Central Americans? Or why did Giuliani resisted his Republican party patriots who were attempting to oust the undocumented aliens that virtually RUN New York city today? Just like Califiornia, NY City will collapse overnight if all the undocumented are gone. US Agriculture will collapse across the continent if the undocumented Latino are thrown out, as would huge segments of the construction industry. (Building a case why illegal immigration is important to Assam's economy - nay its survival?) --Ram On 2/17/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 4:01 PM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, *** It is a legal issue, of citizenship. Why are the Assamese RESP
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?
Title: Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority
complex?
Hi A:
Glad to see you are exercising your imaginations, figmented ( you
heard it here first) as they might be :-).
A few points to note:
***
There are NO 'mandirs' in our environs, much less shiva
temples.
Remember it is Oxom I am talking about :-). The closest thing
to a
temple I knew of was
in the office of a local Marwari rice-mill
operator.
***
Many of our folks do not have the resources to hold a wedding
invite
guests and entertain. They are lucky just to be able to survive.
***
Often the arrangements ( swali-bisora, or dora-bisora) are made
thru
local
contacts, familial connections, and when it is confirmed bride
is
brought to groom's place and the deed is done.
***
Yes, I have heard of 'bura-biya' too, solemnization of a wedding
long
after the fact, hopefully after they raised a family and
are
somewhat settled.
***
Horo-gouri must be understanding enough about the situation,
being
gods/goddesses, unlike their bhodrolwk human counterparts;
for
I don't
remember seeing any break-ups requiring the state to provide
protection--registration or no registration. Local customs
and
traditions have worked perfectly well. No need to FIX what
is
not
broken.
c-da :-)
At 2:02 AM -0600 2/18/06, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
Hi C'da:
Guwahati :-). You might find it
interesting to learn that fully one third of the couples ( at least)
of my small village co-habit without EVER getting married. They
just live together. And even highly developed counties
Hori Bishtu, Hori Bishtu, C'da. Ki bhejal
kotha eta kole` baaru, taate` akouei xobha-ghorot?
Just because you weren't invited to the
weddings does not mean that they were never married! All they did was
that they went to the nearest Shiva-temple and offered tamul-paan to
the priest to get the blessings to live like Horo-Gouri,
probably,just didn't have enough to treat the whole village
(including you)just for that occasion. :)
From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority
complex?
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:25:35 -0600
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At 5:23 PM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
C'da,
*** Very slippery one
this Ram--you are trying to rescue GoI again aren't
you?
No, not really - but if Assamese demand that of the GOI,
wouldn't they have to know which group of people they are talking
about, which group needs protection from the GOI so as not
to become a minority in Assam.
*** They ought to. But WHO do you hear from? Is it the
people? Or is it the rags feeding out of MHA hands and spewing RAW
sewage, and the politicians?
The other day you observed that Rs. 1,000 is no big deal
-- if it were to be levied as a fee for registering marriages. Shows
how uninformed you are about Assam's realities. I don't blame you. You
grew up at Guwahati :-). You might find it interesting to learn that
fully one third of the couples ( at least) of my small village
co-habit without EVER getting married. They just live together. And
even highly developed counties with the best of civil institutions
still recognize such unions -- as common-law couples. Because there
are so many of them.
(A case for protecting
Assam from the unscrupulous Indians?)
*** Are you suggesting that it is NOT an issue? If it is
not, will you care to explain WHY? I explained WHY it is so. You did
not explain why you take issue with my explanation. If you are serious
about understanding the issues you would have at least explained why
you do not agree. But you chose merely to re-iterate your own
politically motivated and pre-conceived notions Ram.
(Building a case why illegal immigration is important
to Assam's economy - nay its survival?)
*** Ditto the above again. You do not take a position on
HOW you propose to resolve te problem, You do not fail to pay
lip-service to the fact that it is a human problem too, as a
perfunctory ritual, But you do not attempt to explain how it should be
dealt with, and by WHOM. Instead you try to devalue it by equating my
explanations about the Cown belt /Bollywood invasion of the NE
with my concerns about the human aspects of the B'deshi
migration.
That is your choice. But it demonstrates that all
you are interested in is
protecting the Indian carpet-baggers' interests in Assam,
while being oblivious of the poor migrants from B'desh, a far less
powerful or influential group than the former.
c-da
*** Again, who an Assamese is is a FAKE question.
Yes, that could be a fake question. Maybe the question is
who else is trying to get into the Assamese bandwagon for ulterior
motives, and who is trying to include others into this group?
You seem to have
more of a soft corner for the B'deshi illegals than for the Bihari
thelawala -:) What gives C'da?
*** What is the reason
for your making
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? - marraige and life
I remember reading that among Eskimos and Tibetans - the tradition has been that a couple marries only after they have a child. I'm told Dalai Lamawas born before hisparents got married - following that tradition. Also that in certain tribal communities in Central and East India -at puberty the youth of opposite sex are sent to a closed house where they change partners atleast every three days- to avoid get into relationships etc. What is true in all these?Umesh"Alpana B. Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi C'da: Guwahati :-). You might find it interesting to learn that fully one third of the couples ( at least) of my small village co-habit without EVER getting married. They just live together. And even highly developed counties Hori Bishtu, Hori Bishtu, C'da. Ki bhejal kotha eta kole` baaru, taate` akouei xobha-ghorot? Just because you weren't invited to the weddings does not mean that they were never married! All they did was that they went to the nearest Shiva-temple and offered tamul-paan to the priest to get the blessings to live like Horo-Gouri, probably,just didn't have enough to treat the whole village (including you)just for that occasion. :)From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Ram Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.orgSubject: Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:25:35 -0600At 5:23 PM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da,*** Very slippery one this Ram--you are trying to rescue GoI again aren't you?No, not really - but if Assamese demand that of the GOI, wouldn't they have to know which group of people they are talking about, which group needs "protection" from the GOI so as not to become a minority in Assam.*** They ought to. But WHO do you hear from? Is it the people? Or is it the rags feeding out of MHA hands and spewing RAW sewage, and the politicians?The other day you observed that Rs. 1,000 is no big deal -- if it were to be levied as a fee for registering marriages. Shows how uninformed you are about Assam's realities. I don't blame you. You grew up at Guwahati :-). You might find it interesting to learn that fully one third of the couples ( at least) of my small village co-habit without EVER getting married. They just live together. And even highly developed counties with the best of civil institutions still recognize such unions -- as common-law couples. Because there are so many of them. (A case for protecting Assam from the unscrupulous Indians?) *** Are you suggesting that it is NOT an issue? If it is not, will you care to explain WHY? I explained WHY it is so. You did not explain why you take issue with my explanation. If you are serious about understanding the issues you would have at least explained why you do not agree. But you chose merely to re-iterate your own politically motivated and pre-conceived notions Ram. (Building a case why illegal immigration is important to Assam's economy - nay its survival?)*** Ditto the above again. You do not take a position on HOW you propose to resolve te problem, You do not fail to pay lip-service to the fact that it is a human problem too, as a perfunctory ritual, But you do not attempt to explain how it should be dealt with, and by WHOM. Instead you try to devalue it by equating my explanations about the Cown belt /Bollywood invasion of the NE with my concerns about the human aspects of the B'deshi migration.That is your choice. But it demonstrates that all you are interested in is protecting the Indian carpet-baggers' interests in Assam, while being oblivious of the poor migrants from B'desh, a far less powerful or influential group than the former. c-da *** Again, who an Assamese is is a FAKE question.Yes, that could be a fake question. Maybe the question is who else is trying to get into the Assamese bandwagon for ulterior motives, and who is trying to include others into this group?You seem to have more of a soft corner for the B'deshi illegals than for the Bihari thelawala -:) What gives C'da?*** What is the reason for your making this conclusion Ram? Can you explain?I was trying to deduce - maybe I am wrong, but you could clarify your statements below:there indeed is a distinction between those ( of different ethnic identities) who are indigenous peoples, and those who are in Assam as carpetbaggers--to exploit it, but have never accepted it as a home, regardless of how many generations they might have lived in its geographical boundaries.(A case for protecting Assam from the unscrupulous Indians?)andBesides, there is a HUMAN issue too. It is a POLITICAL problem in addition to one of legalities, just like the millions of undocumented aliens in the USA. Why do you think California won't deport all the undocumented Mexicans or Central Americans? Or why did Giuliani resisted his Republican party patrio
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? - marraige and life
Title: Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority
complex? - mar
Also that in certain tribal
communities in Central and East India -at puberty the youth of
opposite sex are sent to a closed house where they change partners
atleast every three days- to avoid get into relationships etc.
What is true in all these?
*** I heard that was a practice among west and northwest Indians.
Is it true?
At 4:41 PM + 2/18/06, umesh sharma wrote:
I remember reading that among Eskimos and
Tibetans - the tradition has been that a couple marries only after
they have a child. I'm told Dalai Lamawas born before
hisparents got married - following that tradition.
Also that in certain tribal communities
in Central and East India -at puberty the youth of opposite sex
are sent to a closed house where they change partners atleast every
three days- to avoid get into relationships etc. What is true in
all these?
Umesh
Alpana B. Sarangapani
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi C'da:
Guwahati :-). You might find it interesting to learn
that fully one third of the couples ( at least) of my small
village co-habit without EVER getting married. They just live
together. A! nd even highly developed counties
Hori Bishtu, Hori Bishtu, C'da. Ki bhejal kotha eta kole`
baaru, taate` akouei xobha-ghorot?
Just because you weren't invited to the weddings does not
mean that they were never married! All they did was that they went to
the nearest Shiva-temple and offered tamul-paan to the priest to get
the blessings to live like Horo-Gouri, probably,just didn't have
enough to treat the whole village (including you)just for that
occasion. :)
From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority
complex?
Date: Fri, 17 Feb ! 2006 21:25:35 -0600
blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li
{padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;}
At 5:23 PM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
C'da,
*** Very slippery one
this Ram--you are trying to rescue GoI again aren't
you?
No, not really - but if Assamese demand that of the GOI,
wouldn't they have to know which group of people they are talking
about, which group needs protection from the GOI so as not
to become a minority in Assam.
*** They ought to. But WHO do you hear from? Is it the
people? Or is it the rags feeding out of MHA hands and spewing RAW
sewage, and the politicians?
The other day you observed that Rs. 1,000 is no big deal
-- if it were! to be levied as a fee for registering marriages. Shows
how uninformed you are about Assam's realities. I don't blame you. You
grew up at Guwahati :-). You might find it interesting to learn that
fully one third of the couples ( at least) of my small village
co-habit without EVER getting married. They just live together. And
even highly developed counties with the best of civil institutions
still recognize such unions -- as common-law couples. Because there
are so many of them.
(A case for protecting
Assam from the unscrupulous Indians?)
*** Are you suggesting that it is NOT an issue? If it is
not, will you care to explain WHY? I explained WHY it is so. You did
not explain why you take issue with my explanation. If you are serious
about understanding the issues you would have at least explained why
you do not agree. But you chose merely! to re-iterate your own
politically motivated and pre-conceived notions Ram.
(Building a case why illegal immigration is important
to Assam's economy - nay its survival?)
*** Ditto the above again. You do not take a position on
HOW you propose to resolve te problem, You do not fail to pay
lip-service to the fact that it is a human problem too, as a
perfunctory ritual, But you do not attempt to explain how it should be
dealt with, and by WHOM. Instead you try to devalue it by equating my
explanations about the Cown belt /Bollywood invasion of the NE
with my concerns about the human aspects of the B'deshi
migration.
That is your choice. But it demonstrates that all
you are interested in is
protecting the Indian carpet-baggers' interests in Assam,
while being oblivious of the poor migrants from B'desh, a far less
powerful or influentia! l group than the former.
c-da
*** Again, who an Assamese is is a FAKE question.
Yes, that could be a fake question. Maybe the question is
who else is trying to get into the Assamese bandwagon for ulterior
motives, and who is trying to include others into this group?
You seem to have
more of a soft corner for the B'deshi illegals than for the Bihari
thelawala -:) What gives C'da?
*** What is the reason
for your making this conclusion Ram? Can you explain?
I was trying to deduce -
m! aybe I am wrong, but you could clarify your statements
below:
there indeed is a
distinction between those ( of different ethnic identities) who are
indigenous peoples, and those who are in Assam as
carpetbaggers--to exploit it, but have never accepted it as a
home, regardless of how many
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? - marraige and life
some communitities in western india in north rajasthan had wife swapping tradition long ago --- but nothing on these lines. Incidently this I remember reading in a book on tribal culture of central india and heard about Nagaland's tradition - of some tribes from my father. UmeshChan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Also that in certain tribal communities in Central and East India -at puberty the youth of opposite sex are sent to a closed house where they change partners atleast every three days- to avoid get into relationships etc. What is true in all these? *** I heard that was a practice among
west and northwest Indians. Is it true?At 4:41 PM + 2/18/06, umesh sharma wrote: I remember reading that among Eskimos and Tibetans - the tradition has been that a couple marries only after they have a child. I'm told Dalai Lamawas born before hisparents got married - following that tradition. Also that in certain tribal communities in Central and East India -at puberty the youth of opposite sex are sent to a closed house where they change partners atleast every three days- to avoid get into relationships etc. What is true in all these?Umesh"Alpana B. Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi C'da: Guwahati :-). You might find it interesting to learn that fully one third of the couples ( at least) of my small village co-habit without EVER getting married. They just live together. A! nd even highly developed counties Hori Bishtu, Hori Bishtu, C'da. Ki bhejal kotha eta kole` baaru, taate` akouei xobha-ghorot? Just because you weren't invited to the weddings does not mean that they were never married! All they did was that they went to the nearest Shiva-temple and offered tamul-paan to the priest to get the blessings to live like Horo-Gouri, probably,just didn't have enough to treat the whole village (including you)just for that occasion. :) From: Chan
Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Ram Sarangapani" [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: ASSAMNET assam@assamnet.orgSubject: Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?Date: Fri, 17 Feb ! 2006 21:25:35 -0600blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li {padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;} At 5:23 PM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da,*** Very slippery one this Ram--you are trying to rescue GoI again aren't you?No, not really - but if Assamese demand that of the GOI, wouldn't they have to know which group of people they are talking about, which group needs "protection" from the GOI so as not to become a minority in Assam.*** They
ought to. But WHO do you hear from? Is it the people? Or is it the rags feeding out of MHA hands and spewing RAW sewage, and the politicians?The other day you observed that Rs. 1,000 is no big deal -- if it were! to be levied as a fee for registering marriages. Shows how uninformed you are about Assam's realities. I don't blame you. You grew up at Guwahati :-). You might find it interesting to learn that fully one third of the couples ( at least) of my small village co-habit without EVER getting married. They just live together. And even highly developed counties with the best of civil institutions still recognize such unions -- as common-law couples. Because there are so many of them. (A case for protecting Assam from the unscrupulous Indians?)
*** Are you suggesting that it is NOT an issue? If it is not, will you care to explain WHY? I explained WHY it is so. You did not explain why you take issue with my explanation. If you are serious about understanding the issues you would have at least explained why you do not agree. But you chose merely! to re-iterate your own politically motivated and pre-conceived notions Ram. (Building a case why illegal immigration is important to Assam's economy - nay its survival?)*** Ditto the above again. You do not take a position on HOW you propose to resolve te problem, You do not fail to pay lip-service to the fact that it is a human problem too, as a perfunctory ritual, But you do not attempt to explain how it should be dealt with, and by WHOM. Instead you try to devalue it by equating my
explanations about the Cown belt /Bollywood invasion of the NE with my concerns about the human aspects of the B'deshi migration.That is your choice. But it demonstrates that all you are interested in is protecting the Indian carpet-baggers' interests in Assam, while being oblivious of the poor migrants from B'desh, a far less powerful or influentia! l group than the former. c-da *** Again, who an Assamese is is a FAKE question.Yes, that could be a fake question. Maybe the question is who else is trying to get into the Assamese bandwagon for ulterior motives, and who is trying to include
others into this group?You seem to have more of a soft corner for the B'deshi illegals than for the Bihari thelawala -:) What gives C'da?*** What is the reason for your making this conclusion Ram? Ca
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?
Title: Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? In fact I would go a step farther and suggest that the Assamese LEARN better English, written and spoken, for them to be able to assert themselves. There is NO better weapon--or skill--that a desi gets intimidated by :-), does not matter how qualified he or she is otherwise,than a person who is proficient in English, more so on the spoken front than the written one. But that is NOT to suggest they ought not to learn BETTER Oxomiya too. In fact the Oxomiya instructions should be far better it was or is now, just like for English and every conceivable subject. At 9:37 AM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Barua, The 'inferiority complex' that Deka refers to is NOT an 'Assamese only' complex. My feeling is that the complex exists throughout India. In most places in India, if you can speak a bit of English, you are considered 'educated'. In fact, I think that phenomena exists in most parts of the world. But that edge is only the first impression, subsequently, one is judged by how much one knows (and not how well they speak English). --Ram On 2/17/06, Rajen Barua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, he clarified that he was not campaigning against learning English. The Sabha wants the people of the State to earn expertise in English too. But there is no justification to treat the English medium schools as superior to the Assamese medium schools . Most of the owners of the English medium schools are interested only in making money, they are less bothered to improve the standard of education, he said. - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: ASSAMNET Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:08 AM Subject: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? Highlights are mine. Some questions/comments though: Inferiority complex has made the State's people opt for English instead of their own language in all spheres of their life. I think people learn English because its useful. Does knowing English, give one a 'superiority' edge? I don't think so. He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent controversy concerning the definition of the Assamese people One would have thought that a body like the Sahitya Sabha would be the right body to define who is an Assamese if need be. an how about this one below? He also asserted that any arrangement for autonomy without a provision for percolation of power down to the grass root level was meaningless. Such arrangements for autonomy creates a new type of oligarchy and the common people continue to languish as usual Await readers' comments. Expand base of Assamese society - AT By A Staff Reporter GUWAHATI, Feb 16 - Asam Sahitya Sabha president Kanaksen Deka today made an appeal to the people to wage an all out battle against inferiority complex that is afflicting the life of the State's people . He also urged upon the people to expand the base of the Assamese society by making the society assimilate all the new elements and also to become self-reliant engaging themselves in trade and commerce. He was addressing the fourth special annual session of the Asam Sahitya Sabha at the Belsor Sarat Chandra Goswami Kshetra in Nalbari district. Inferiority complex has made the State's people opt for English instead of their own language in all spheres of their life. This complex is luring the guardians to send their wards to the English medium schools. This is against the basic doctrines of education, which speak of imparting education at the primary level through mother tongues. This inclination towards English is a product of the hangover of our colonial past, Deka said. However, he clarified that he was not campaigning against learning English. The Sabha wants the people of the State to earn expertise in English too. But there is no justification to treat the English medium schools as superior to the Assamese medium schools. Most of the owners of the English medium schools are interested only in making money, they are less bothered to improve the standard of education, he said. The inferiority complex of the State's people is affecting their life in other areas also. They readily give up their time-tested clothes, cookery and snacks etc for the others'. They are also demanding reservation for themselves in many spheres. But the weak people, who are shy of competing with others, only raise the demand for reservation. This demand will spell doom for the peoples of the State in the coming days, he warned. He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent controversy concerning the definition of the Assamese people. The issue came to the Sabha platform when there arose a need to define the Assamese people in the process of implementation of the Assam Accord. The definition was sought to be evolved at the platform of the Sanmilita Sahitya Sabha. But some of the partners of the Sanmilita Sahitya Sabha did not like the idea of bringing
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Yes, I agree, but in Assam it is I think affecting Assamese media schools. While Hindi also has this inrefiriorty complex for English, but the fact remains, in Assam we have lot of Central Hindi/English schools where Assamese are not taught. Assamese think those schools are better. So the issue is I think Assamese has a double inferiority complex. One over English Then one over Hindi/Bengali or anything west of Korotwa river. Now a days, I have heard lot of Assamese youth in Guwahati like to speak in Hindi amongst their Assamese friends instead of Assamese. You know how many of us like to speak in Bengali to a Bengali gentleman. It is similar. I am not saying speaking other language is bad, but not at the expense of your own language. This is I think because Assamese think (in their subconscious mind) that Hindi/Bengali is a bit superior to Assamese. Do you know how many books are being translated from Bengali and published in Assamese now a days? Translation from Bengali? It bits me. Is not this a sign of 'litikai' Assamese mind? This is an additional complex which I perceive, but I may be wrong if somebody convince me otherwise. Barua - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: Rajen Barua Cc: ASSAMNET Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? Barua, The 'inferiority complex' that Deka refers to is NOT an 'Assamese only' complex. My feeling is that the complex exists throughout India. In most places in India, if you can speak a bit of English, you are considered 'educated'. In fact, I think that phenomena exists in most parts of the world. But that edge is only the first impression, subsequently, one is judged by how much one knows (and not how well they speak English). --Ram On 2/17/06, Rajen Barua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, he clarified that he was not campaigning against learning English. The Sabha wants the people of the State to earn expertise in English too. But there is no justification to treat the English medium schools as superior to the Assamese medium schools . Most of the owners of the English medium schools are interested only in making money, they are less bothered to improve the standard of education, he said. - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: ASSAMNET Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:08 AM Subject: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? Highlights are mine. Some questions/comments though: "Inferiority complex has made the State's people opt for English instead of their own language in all spheres of their life." I think people learn English because its useful. Does knowing English, give one a 'superiority' edge? I don't think so. "He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent controversy concerning the definition of the Assamese people" One would have thought that a body like the Sahitya Sabha would be the right body to define who is an Assamese if need be. an how about this one below? "He also asserted that any arrangement for autonomy without a provision for percolation of power down to the grass root level was meaningless. Such arrangements for autonomy creates a new type of oligarchy and the common people continue to languish as usual" Await readers' comments. Expand base of Assamese society - ATBy A Staff ReporterGUWAHATI, Feb 16 — Asam Sahitya Sabha president Kanaksen Deka today made an appeal to the people to wage an all out battle against inferiority complex that is afflicting the life of the State's people . He also urged upon the people to expand the base of the Assamese society by making the society assimilate all the new elements and also to become self-reliant engaging themselves in trade and commerce. He was addressing the fourth special annual session of the Asam Sahitya Sabha at the Belsor Sarat Chandra Goswami Kshetra in Nalbari district. Inferiority complex has made the State's people opt for English instead of their own language in all spheres of their life. This complex is luring the guardians to send their wards to the English medium schools. This is against the basic doctrines of education, which speak of imparting education at the primary level through mother tongues. This inclination towards English is a product of the hangover of our colonial past, Deka said. However, he clarified that he was not campaigning against learning English. The Sabha wants the people of the
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?
C'da, There is NO better weapon--or skill--that a desi gets intimidated by :-), Hehehe! This last time at Delhi Airport, the security at the gate wouldn't let me in as I had an eticket (no paper ticket). All I said was 'what do you mean, you won't let me' or something along those lines - and pronto, I was waved in. But I think that works against only those who know little or no spoken English. I agree with you knowing English is a great skill, but knowing a number of languages is a better skill, and specially you mother tongue. But, what about this other thing about the definition for who is an Assamese: He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent controversy concerning the definition of the Assamese people - AT One would think that the Saithya Sabha would be an able body to come up with a definition. As a well respected organization, who would be better. I am surprised they would be gun shy on that issue. --Ram On 2/17/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact I would go a step farther and suggest that the Assamese LEARN better English, written and spoken, for them to be able to assert themselves. There is NO better weapon--or skill--that a desi gets intimidated by :-), does not matter how qualified he or she is otherwise,than a person who is proficient in English, more so on the spoken front than the written one. But that is NOT to suggest they ought not to learn BETTER Oxomiya too. In fact the Oxomiya instructions should be far better it was or is now, just like for English and every conceivable subject. At 9:37 AM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Barua, The 'inferiority complex' that Deka refers to is NOT an 'Assamese only' complex. My feeling is that the complex exists throughout India. In most places in India, if you can speak a bit of English, you are considered 'educated'. In fact, I think that phenomena exists in most parts of the world. But that edge is only the first impression, subsequently, one is judged by how much one knows (and not how well they speak English). --Ram On 2/17/06, Rajen Barua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, he clarified that he was not campaigning against learning English. The Sabha wants the people of the State to earn expertise in English too. But there is no justification to treat the English medium schools as superior to the Assamese medium schools . Most of the owners of the English medium schools are interested only in making money, they are less bothered to improve the standard of education, he said. - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: ASSAMNET Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:08 AM Subject: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? Highlights are mine. Some questions/comments though: Inferiority complex has made the State's people opt for English instead of their own language in all spheres of their life. I think people learn English because its useful. Does knowing English, give one a 'superiority' edge? I don't think so. He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent controversy concerning the definition of the Assamese people One would have thought that a body like the Sahitya Sabha would be the right body to define who is an Assamese if need be. an how about this one below? He also asserted that any arrangement for autonomy without a provision for percolation of power down to the grass root level was meaningless. Such arrangements for autonomy creates a new type of oligarchy and the common people continue to languish as usual Await readers' comments. Expand base of Assamese society - ATBy A Staff ReporterGUWAHATI, Feb 16 - Asam Sahitya Sabha president Kanaksen Deka today made an appeal to the people to wage an all out battle against inferiority complex that is afflicting the life of the State's people . He also urged upon the people to expand the base of the Assamese society by making the society assimilate all the new elements and also to become self-reliant engaging themselves in trade and commerce. He was addressing the fourth special annual session of the Asam Sahitya Sabha at the Belsor Sarat Chandra Goswami Kshetra in Nalbari district. Inferiority complex has made the State's people opt for English instead of their own language in all spheres of their life. This complex is luring the guardians to send their wards to the English medium schools. This is against the basic doctrines of education, which speak of imparting education at the primary level through mother tongues. This inclination towards English is a product of the hangover of our colonial past, Deka said. However, he clarified that he was not campaigning against learning English. The Sabha wants the people of the State to earn expertise in English too. But there is no justification to treat the English medium schools as superior to the Assamese medium schools. Most of the owners of the English medium schools are interested only in making money, they
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?
Title: Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? But, what about this other thing about the definition for who is an Assamese: *** That is a FAKE issue, like I explained before, manufactured by Delhi and willingly accepted by its Assamese agents as a ploy to muddy the demands of cultural protection by the many indigenous peoples of the region against the invasion of Hindi/Hindu ( read Cow-belt) and Bollywood influences asa well as unchecked B'Deshi immigration. All citizens of Assam are Assamese, like all citizens of India are Indians. But just like in India, the population of Assam is composed of many ETHNICITIES! *** The FAKE issue is further complicated by that damned English language, because of which it is easy for Dilli's agents in Assam to perpetuate the myth that somehow there is a problem of defining WHO the Assamese are. There are SEVERAL kinds of Assamese: 1: The Assamese nationality 2: The Assamese language. 3: The Assmese ethnicity And they are NOT all the same, as the manufacturer's of the FAKE issue would have people believe. Once you separate them out, only the mentally challenged would see a problem in DEFINING who an Assamese is. At 10:59 AM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, There is NO better weapon--or skill--that a desi gets intimidated by :-), Hehehe! This last time at Delhi Airport, the security at the gate wouldn't let me in as I had an eticket (no paper ticket). All I said was 'what do you mean, you won't let me' or something along those lines - and pronto, I was waved in. But I think that works against only those who know little or no spoken English. I agree with you knowing English is a great skill, but knowing a number of languages is a better skill, and specially you mother tongue. But, what about this other thing about the definition for who is an Assamese: He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent controversy concerning the definition of the Assamese people - AT One would think that the Saithya Sabha would be an able body to come up with a definition. As a well respected organization, who would be better. I am surprised they would be gun shy on that issue. --Ram On 2/17/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact I would go a step farther and suggest that the Assamese LEARN better English, written and spoken, for them to be able to assert themselves. There is NO better weapon--or skill--that a desi gets intimidated by :-), does not matter how qualified he or she is otherwise,than a person who is proficient in English, more so on the spoken front than the written one. But that is NOT to suggest they ought not to learn BETTER Oxomiya too. In fact the Oxomiya instructions should be far better it was or is now, just like for English and every conceivable subject. At 9:37 AM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Barua, The 'inferiority complex' that Deka refers to is NOT an 'Assamese only' complex. My feeling is that the complex exists throughout India. In most places in India, if you can speak a bit of English, you are considered 'educated'. In fact, I think that phenomena exists in most parts of the world. But that edge is only the first impression, subsequently, one is judged by how much one knows (and not how well they speak English). --Ram On 2/17/06, Rajen Barua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, he clarified that he was not campaigning against learning English. The Sabha wants the people of the State to earn expertise in English too. But there is no justification to treat the English medium schools as superior to the Assamese medium schools . Most of the owners of the English medium schools are interested only in making money, they are less bothered to improve the standard of education, he said. - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: ASSAMNET Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:08 AM Subject: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? Highlights are mine. Some questions/comments though: Inferiority complex has made the State's people opt for English instead of their own language in all spheres of their life. I think people learn English because its useful. Does knowing English, give one a 'superiority' edge? I don't think so. He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent controversy concerning the definition of the Assamese people One would have thought that a body like the Sahitya Sabha would be the right body to define who is an Assamese if need be. an how about this one below? He also asserted that any arrangement for autonomy without a provision for percolation of power down to the grass root level was meaningless. Such arrangements for autonomy creates a new type of oligarchy and the common people continue to languish as usual Await readers' comments. Expand base of Assamese society - AT By A Staff Reporter GUWAHATI, Feb 16 - Asam Sahitya Sabha
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?
I would that we all (living beings) have an inferiority complex - but courage lies in overcoming our fears and forging ahead in an uncertain and unknown world. The only one with superiority complex is the fool with lots of money and no responsibility.UmeshChan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:But, what about this other thing about the definition for who is an Assamese: *** That is a FAKE issue, like I explained before, manufactured by Delhi and willingly accepted by its Assamese agents as a ploy to muddy the demands of cultural protection by the many indigenous peoples of the region against the invasion of Hindi/Hindu ( read Cow-belt) and Bollywood influences asa well as unchecked B'Deshi immigration.All citizens of Assam are Assamese, like all citizens of India are Indians.But just like in India, the population of Assam is composed of many ETHNICITIES!*** The FAKE issue is further complicated by that damned English language, because of which it is easy for Dilli's agents in Assam to perpetuate the myth that somehow there is a problem of defining WHO the Assamese are.There are SEVERAL kinds of Assamese: 1: The Assamese nationality 2: The Assamese language. 3: The Assmese ethnicityAnd they are NOT all the same, as the manufacturer's of the FAKE issue would have people believe. Once you separate them out, only the mentally challenged would see a problem in DEFINING who an Assamese is. At 10:59 AM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, There is NO better weapon--or skill--that a desi gets intimidated by :-),Hehehe! This last time at Delhi Airport, the security at the gate wouldn't let me in as I had an eticket (no paper ticket). All I said was 'what do you mean, you won't let me' or something along those lines - and pronto, I was waved in.But I think that works against only those who know little or no spoken English.I agree with you knowing English is a great skill, but knowing a number of languages is a better skill, and specially you mother tongue.But, what about this other thing about the definition for who is an Assamese:"He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent controversy concerning the definition of the Assamese people" - ATOne would think that the Saithya Sabha would be an able body to come up with a definition. As a well respected organization, who would be better. I am surprised they would be gun shy on that issue.--RamOn 2/17/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In fact I would go a step farther and suggest that the Assamese LEARN better English, written and spoken, for them to be able to assert themselves.There is NO better weapon--or skill--that a desi gets intimidated by :-), does not matter how qualified he or she is otherwise,than a person who is proficient in English, more so on the spoken front than the written one.But that is NOT to suggest they ought not to learn BETTER Oxomiya too. In fact the Oxomiya instructions should be far better it was or is now, just like for English and every conceivable subject. At 9:37 AM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Barua, The 'inferiority complex' that Deka refers to is NOT an 'Assamese only' complex. My feeling is that the complex exists throughout India. In most places in India, if you can speak a bit of English, you are considered 'educated'. In fact, I think that phenomena exists in most parts of the world. But that edge is only the first impression, subsequently, one is judged by how much one knows (and not how well they speak English).--Ram On 2/17/06, Rajen Barua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, he clarified that he was not campaigning against learning English. The Sabha wants the people of the State to earn expertise in English too. But there is no justification to treat the English medium schools as superior to the Assamese medium schools . Most of the owners of the English medium schools are interested only in making money, they are less bothered to improve the standard of education, he said.- Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: ASSAMNET Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:08 AM Subject: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?Highlights are mine. Some questions/comments though:"Inferiority complex has made the State's people opt for English instead of their own language in all spheres of their life."I think people learn English because its useful. Does knowing English, give one a 'superiority' edge? I don't think so."He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent controversy concerning the definition of the Assamese people"One would have thought that a body like the Sahitya Sabha would be the right body to define who is an Assamese if need be.an how about this one below?"He also asserted that any arrangement for autonomy without a provision for
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?
I think, at the very least they were hesitant to even broach the subject. Why couldn't they, like you say: All citizens of Assam are Assamese, like all citizens of India are Indians. *** I don't know. Sometimes people are unable to see the obvious. Sometimes it is a problem of attempting to awake who is NOT asleep. But perhaps I ought to write a letter to some Editor. Who knows people may see the light? What do YOU think? At 11:39 AM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, I don't know all the intricacies of the issue. But if, as you say its an issue manufactured by Dilli and is willingly accepted by some Assamese 'agents', why doesn't the Sahithya Sabha say its a fake issue and let the people in general know where they stand on the issue. I think, at the very least they were hesitant to even broach the subject. Why couldn't they, like you say: All citizens of Assam are Assamese, like all citizens of India are Indians. I will hold back my take on this for a while -:) --Ram ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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C'da, But perhaps I ought to write a letter to some Editor. Who knowspeople may see the light? What do YOU think? I think you should. You might have some luck in getting it published -:) *** I don't know. Sometimes people are unable to see the obvious.Sometimes it is a problem of attempting to awake who is NOT asleep. I think I know why the Sahitya Sabha is trying to avoid the issue. They don't want to touch it with a ten-foot pole because the issue IS controversial. There are those like you, who see no need for a defintion, and then there are those who think its important to have a definition. That definition for them would mean weeding out illegal B'deshis. It may be a first step (1947, 1971, 1991 or whatever) but at least they would know who the ethinic people are and who are not. I assume your definition of Assamese would encompass all ethinic people including Bodos, Miris, Biharis, Marwaris etc also, who have been living in Assam for ever? -:) --Ram On 2/17/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think, at the very least they were hesitant to even broach thesubject. Why couldn't they, like you say: All citizens of Assam are Assamese, like all citizens of India are Indians.*** I don't know. Sometimes people are unable to see the obvious.Sometimes it is a problem of attempting to awake who is NOT asleep. But perhaps I ought to write a letter to some Editor. Who knowspeople may see the light? What do YOU think?At 11:39 AM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:C'da, I don't know all the intricacies of the issue. But if, as you sayits an issue manufactured by Dilli and is willingly accepted by someAssamese 'agents', why doesn't the Sahithya Sabha say its a fake issue and let the people in general know where they stand on theissue.I think, at the very least they were hesitant to even broach thesubject. Why couldn't they, like you say: All citizens of Assam are Assamese, like all citizens of India are Indians.I will hold back my take on this for a while -:)--Ram ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?
Title: Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? At 12:11 PM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, But perhaps I ought to write a letter to some Editor. Who knows people may see the light? What do YOU think? I think you should. You might have some luck in getting it published -:) *** I don't know. Sometimes people are unable to see the obvious. Sometimes it is a problem of attempting to awake who is NOT asleep. I think I know why the Sahitya Sabha is trying to avoid the issue. They don't want to touch it with a ten-foot pole because the issue IS controversial. *** May be. But I don't see the controversy here. First pin down WHAT KIND of Assamese ( Oxomiya) they are trying to define: The Assamese National ( Oxomiya naagorik), the Assamese Language ( Oxomiya bhaxa) or the Assamese Ethnic ( Oxomiya jaati). It is as simple as that, don't you think? That definition for them would mean weeding out illegal B'deshis. *** Question is WHO or HOW? Besides, there is a HUMAN issue too. It is a POLITICAL problem in addition to one of legalities, just like the millions of undocumented aliens in the USA. Why do you think California won't deport all the undocumented Mexicans or Central Americans? Or why did Giuliani resisted his Republican party patriots who were attempting to oust the undocumented aliens that virtually RUN New York city today? Just like Califiornia, NY City will collapse overnight if all the undocumented are gone. US Agriculture will collapse across the continent if the undocumented Latino are thrown out, as would huge segments of the construction industry. Ultimately reality sinks in. The pursuit of preserving ethnic/language/religious/culture purity unfortunately has consequences. But those who cry hoarse over it are a small minority who are not effected by those consequences. I assume your definition of Assamese would encompass all ethinic people including Bodos, Miris, Biharis, Marwaris etc also, who have been living in Assam for ever? -:) *** It is a legal issue, of citizenship. Why are the Assamese RESPONSIBLE for defining it ? Doesn't India have a DEFINITION of who a citizen is? But past the citizenship issue, there indeed is a distinction between those ( of different ethnic identities) who are indigenous peoples, and those who are in Assam as carpetbaggers--to exploit it, but have never accepted it as a home, regardless of how many generations they might have lived in its geographical boundaries. That IS a nuance that could not and should not be either glossed over, or buried under the legal definition ( current one) of citizenship. There are those like you, who see no need for a defintion, and then there are those who think its important to have a definition. That definition for them would mean weeding out illegal B'deshis. It may be a first step (1947, 1971, 1991 or whatever) but at least they would know who the ethinic people are and who are not. I assume your definition of Assamese would encompass all ethinic people including Bodos, Miris, Biharis, Marwaris etc also, who have been living in Assam for ever? -:) --Ram On 2/17/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think, at the very least they were hesitant to even broach the subject. Why couldn't they, like you say: All citizens of Assam are Assamese, like all citizens of India are Indians. *** I don't know. Sometimes people are unable to see the obvious. Sometimes it is a problem of attempting to awake who is NOT asleep. But perhaps I ought to write a letter to some Editor. Who knows people may see the light? What do YOU think? At 11:39 AM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, I don't know all the intricacies of the issue. But if, as you say its an issue manufactured by Dilli and is willingly accepted by some Assamese 'agents', why doesn't the Sahithya Sabha say its a fake issue and let the people in general know where they stand on the issue. I think, at the very least they were hesitant to even broach the subject. Why couldn't they, like you say: All citizens of Assam are Assamese, like all citizens of India are Indians. I will hold back my take on this for a while -:) --Ram ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?
Title: Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? At 4:01 PM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, *** It is a legal issue, of citizenship. Why are the Assamese RESPONSIBLE for defining it ? Doesn't India have a DEFINITION of who a citizen is? India does have a concrete definition for who is or is not an Indian citizenship. Obviously, India (GOI) is not going to define who and Assamese Citizen is? Because in India individual states do not offer citizenship rights (as some assume). *** Very slippery one this Ram--you are trying to rescue GoI again aren't you? I was NOT talking of WHO an Assamese is, I was referring to YOUIR concerns about them B'deshis. And my question stands: *** It is a legal issue, of citizenship. Why are the Assamese RESPONSIBLE for defining it ? Doesn't India have a DEFINITION of who a citizen is? The question of defining who an Assamese is, is more to do with how Assamese residents of Assam would like to define themselves than to do with Indian citizenship matters. *** Again, who an Assamese is is a FAKE question. There cannot be any confusion about it, for reasons I explained quite clearly. Is it hard for you to understand Ram :-)? And would you explain WHY , if you still don't get it? For example: If say a group of people demand 100% job reservations for locals, who is included in this 100%?. *** That could very well be implied to be the INDIGENOUS population of geographical Assam. I cannot see where the confusion is in this instance either. The Shiv Sena says 100% for people who are born Maharati. BTW: If GOI did take it upon itself to define who an Assamese is, will you accept that definition? and how well? *** Question is WHO or HOW? Besides, there is a HUMAN issue too. It is a POLITICAL problem in addition to one of legalities, just like the millions of undocumented aliens in the USA ... Of course there is the human issue. I can understand the problem of 'identification', but there should not be a problem to set the parameters. As for the human issue, what do we do? Throw open the borders? *** You tell us. I am not the one who is pressing the point. You are. Obviously you know how to resolve it. So do tell :-). In fact why have a border? *** How about 'To make believe'--as GoI, the party constitutionally responsible, with the legal authority and the control on resources, has been f doing all these decades? You seem to have more of a soft corner for the B'deshi illegals than for the Bihari thelawala -:) What gives C'da? *** What is the reason for your making this conclusion Ram? Can you explain? c-da --Ram On 2/17/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:11 PM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, But perhaps I ought to write a letter to some Editor. Who knows people may see the light? What do YOU think? I think you should. You might have some luck in getting it published -:) *** I don't know. Sometimes people are unable to see the obvious. Sometimes it is a problem of attempting to awake who is NOT asleep. I think I know why the Sahitya Sabha is trying to avoid the issue. They don't want to touch it with a ten-foot pole because the issue IS controversial. *** May be. But I don't see the controversy here. First pin down WHAT KIND of Assamese ( Oxomiya) they are trying to define: The Assamese National ( Oxomiya naagorik), the Assamese Language ( Oxomiya bhaxa) or the Assamese Ethnic ( Oxomiya jaati). It is as simple as that, don't you think? That definition for them would mean weeding out illegal B'deshis. *** Question is WHO or HOW? Besides, there is a HUMAN issue too. It is a POLITICAL problem in addition to one of legalities, just like the millions of undocumented aliens in the USA. Why do you think California won't deport all the undocumented Mexicans or Central Americans? Or why did Giuliani resisted his Republican party patriots who were attempting to oust the undocumented aliens that virtually RUN New York city today? Just like Califiornia, NY City will collapse overnight if all the undocumented are gone. US Agriculture will collapse across the continent if the undocumented Latino are thrown out, as would huge segments of the construction industry. Ultimately reality sinks in. The pursuit of preserving ethnic/language/religious/culture purity unfortunately has consequences. But those who cry hoarse over it are a small minority who are not effected by those consequences. I assume your definition of Assamese would encompass all ethinic people including Bodos, Miris, Biharis, Marwaris etc also, who have been living in Assam for ever? -:) *** It is a legal issue, of citizenship. Why are the Assamese RESPONSIBLE for defining it ? Doesn't India have a DEFINITION of who a citizen is? But past the citizenship issue, there indeed is a distinction between those ( of different ethnic identities) who are indigenous peoples, and those who are in Assam
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?
C'da, *** Very slippery one this Ram--you are trying to rescue GoI again aren't you? No, not really - but if Assamese demand that of the GOI, wouldn't they have to know which group of people they are talking about, which group needs protection from the GOI so as not to become a minority in Assam. *** Again, who an Assamese is is a FAKE question. Yes, that could be a fake question. Maybe the question is who else is trying to get into the Assamese bandwagon for ulterior motives, and who is trying to include others into this group? You seem to have more of a soft corner for the B'deshi illegals than for the Bihari thelawala -:) What gives C'da? *** What is the reason for your making this conclusion Ram? Can you explain? I was trying to deduce - maybe I am wrong, but you could clarify your statements below: there indeed is a distinction between those ( of different ethnic identities) who are indigenous peoples, and those who are in Assam as carpetbaggers--to exploit it, but have never accepted it as a home, regardless of how many generations they might have lived in its geographical boundaries. (A case for protecting Assam from the unscrupulous Indians?) and Besides, there is a HUMAN issue too. It is a POLITICAL problem in addition to one of legalities, just like the millions of undocumented aliens in the USA. Why do you think California won't deport all the undocumented Mexicans or Central Americans? Or why did Giuliani resisted his Republican party patriots who were attempting to oust the undocumented aliens that virtually RUN New York city today? Just like Califiornia, NY City will collapse overnight if all the undocumented are gone. US Agriculture will collapse across the continent if the undocumented Latino are thrown out, as would huge segments of the construction industry. (Building a case why illegal immigration is important to Assam's economy - nay its survival?) --Ram On 2/17/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 4:01 PM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, *** It is a legal issue, of citizenship. Why are the Assamese RESPONSIBLE for defining it ? Doesn't India have a DEFINITION of who a citizen is? India does have a concrete definition for who is or is not an Indian citizenship. Obviously, India (GOI) is not going to define who and Assamese Citizen is? Because in India individual states do not offer citizenship rights (as some assume). *** Very slippery one this Ram--you are trying to rescue GoI again aren't you? I was NOT talking of WHO an Assamese is, I was referring to YOUIR concerns about them B'deshis. And my question stands: *** It is a legal issue, of citizenship. Why are the Assamese RESPONSIBLE for defining it ? Doesn't India have a DEFINITION of who a citizen is? The question of defining who an Assamese is, is more to do with how Assamese residents of Assam would like to define themselves than to do with Indian citizenship matters. *** Again, who an Assamese is is a FAKE question. There cannot be any confusion about it, for reasons I explained quite clearly. Is it hard for you to understand Ram :-)? And would you explain WHY , if you still don't get it? For example: If say a group of people demand 100% job reservations for locals, who is included in this 100%?. *** That could very well be implied to be the INDIGENOUS population of geographical Assam. I cannot see where the confusion is in this instance either. The Shiv Sena says 100% for people who are born Maharati. BTW: If GOI did take it upon itself to define who an Assamese is, will you accept that definition? and how well? *** Question is WHO or HOW? Besides, there is a HUMAN issue too. It is a POLITICAL problem in addition to one of legalities, just like the millions of undocumented aliens in the USA ... Of course there is the human issue. I can understand the problem of 'identification', but there should not be a problem to set the parameters. As for the human issue, what do we do? Throw open the borders? *** You tell us. I am not the one who is pressing the point. You are. Obviously you know how to resolve it. So do tell :-). In fact why have a border? *** How about 'To make believe'--as GoI, the party constitutionally responsible, with the legal authority and the control on resources, has been f doing all these decades? You seem to have more of a soft corner for the B'deshi illegals than for the Bihari thelawala -:) What gives C'da? *** What is the reason for your making this conclusion Ram? Can you explain? c-da --Ram On 2/17/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:11 PM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, But perhaps I ought to write a letter to some Editor. Who knowspeople may see the light? What do YOU think? I think you should. You might have some luck in getting it published -:) *** I don't know. Sometimes people are unable to see the obvious.Sometimes it is a problem of attempting to awake who is NOT asleep. I think I know why
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?
Dear Barua, I agree. By refusing to indulge in the controversy of the definition of Assamese, Assam Sahitya Sabha has indeed declared to the worldthat it is a controversy for which it cannot offer any resolution. Now this is a big issue I would say. ASS admitting that it is a issue like 'betonit poril ow, baxudebaye nomoh'. This is winning point for Delhi who wants to take advantage of the controversy. From the looks of it, this issue does seem to be controversial. If it were a benign issue, the Sahitya Sabha would have had no problem in giving their definition. They may not have relaized that there was also a controversy with the name Asom (instead of Oxom). So, where do we stand? The GOI will not do it, plus nobody will accept their definition. The Sahitya Sabha will not do it. The GOA will not do it. There are at least 4 or 5 different definitionsfloating around, and add to that the numerous nuances hanging on to each word in the definition. While some of are saying, it is really a fake issue. If it is, I don't think the GOI will take it upon itself to get into every state's bidness and go asking for such definitions. Why get into the trouble and getting itself embroiled in one more headache? --Ram On 2/17/06, Barua25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent controversy concerning the definition of the Assamese people One would have thought that a body like the Sahitya Sabha would be the right body to define who is an Assamese if need be. an how about this one below? I agree. By refusing to indulge in the controversy of the definition of Assamese, Assam Sahitya Sabha has indeed declared to the worldthat it is a controversy for which it cannot offer any resolution. Now this is a big issue I would say. ASS admitting that it is a issue like 'betonit poril ow, baxudebaye nomoh'. This is winning point for Delhi who wants to take advantage of the controversy. RB - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: ASSAMNET Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:08 AM Subject: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? Highlights are mine. Some questions/comments though: Inferiority complex has made the State's people opt for English instead of their own language in all spheres of their life. I think people learn English because its useful. Does knowing English, give one a 'superiority' edge? I don't think so. He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent controversy concerning the definition of the Assamese people One would have thought that a body like the Sahitya Sabha would be the right body to define who is an Assamese if need be. an how about this one below? He also asserted that any arrangement for autonomy without a provision for percolation of power down to the grass root level was meaningless. Such arrangements for autonomy creates a new type of oligarchy and the common people continue to languish as usual Await readers' comments. Expand base of Assamese society - ATBy A Staff ReporterGUWAHATI, Feb 16 — Asam Sahitya Sabha president Kanaksen Deka today made an appeal to the people to wage an all out battle against inferiority complex that is afflicting the life of the State's people . He also urged upon the people to expand the base of the Assamese society by making the society assimilate all the new elements and also to become self-reliant engaging themselves in trade and commerce. He was addressing the fourth special annual session of the Asam Sahitya Sabha at the Belsor Sarat Chandra Goswami Kshetra in Nalbari district. Inferiority complex has made the State's people opt for English instead of their own language in all spheres of their life. This complex is luring the guardians to send their wards to the English medium schools. This is against the basic doctrines of education, which speak of imparting education at the primary level through mother tongues. This inclination towards English is a product of the hangover of our colonial past, Deka said. However, he clarified that he was not campaigning against learning English. The Sabha wants the people of the State to earn expertise in English too. But there is no justification to treat the English medium schools as superior to the Assamese medium schools. Most of the owners of the English medium schools are interested only in making money, they are less bothered to improve the standard of education, he said. The inferiority complex of the State's people is affecting their life in other areas also. They readily give up their time-tested clothes, cookery and snacks etc for the others'. They are also demanding reservation for themselves in many spheres. But the weak people, who are shy of competing with others, only raise the demand for reservation. This demand will spell doom for the peoples of the State in the coming days, he warned. He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?
Title: Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? While some of are saying, it is really a fake issue. If it is, I don't think the GOI will take it upon itself to get into every state's bidness and go asking for such definitions. Why get into the trouble and getting itself embroiled in one more headache? GoI has always practised the BBaDprinciple: Brute Force, Bribery and Deceipt. So what else is new? At 7:50 PM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: Dear Barua, I agree. By refusing to indulge in the controversy of the definition of Assamese, Assam Sahitya Sabha has indeed declared to the worldthat it is a controversy for which it cannot offer any resolution. Now this is a big issue I would say. ASS admitting that it is a issue like 'betonit poril ow, baxudebaye nomoh'. This is winning point for Delhi who wants to take advantage of the controversy. From the looks of it, this issue does seem to be controversial. If it were a benign issue, the Sahitya Sabha would have had no problem in giving their definition. They may not have relaized that there was also a controversy with the name Asom (instead of Oxom). So, where do we stand? The GOI will not do it, plus nobody will accept their definition. The Sahitya Sabha will not do it. The GOA will not do it. There are at least 4 or 5 different definitionsfloating around, and add to that the numerous nuances hanging on to each word in the definition. While some of are saying, it is really a fake issue. If it is, I don't think the GOI will take it upon itself to get into every state's bidness and go asking for such definitions. Why get into the trouble and getting itself embroiled in one more headache? --Ram On 2/17/06, Barua25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent controversy concerning the definition of the Assamese people One would have thought that a body like the Sahitya Sabha would be the right body to define who is an Assamese if need be. an how about this one below? I agree. By refusing to indulge in the controversy of the definition of Assamese, Assam Sahitya Sabha has indeed declared to the worldthat it is a controversy for which it cannot offer any resolution. Now this is a big issue I would say. ASS admitting that it is a issue like 'betonit poril ow, baxudebaye nomoh'. This is winning point for Delhi who wants to take advantage of the controversy. RB - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: ASSAMNET Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:08 AM Subject: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? Highlights are mine. Some questions/comments though: Inferiority complex has made the State's people opt for English instead of their own language in all spheres of their life. I think people learn English because its useful. Does knowing English, give one a 'superiority' edge? I don't think so. He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent controversy concerning the definition of the Assamese people One would have thought that a body like the Sahitya Sabha would be the right body to define who is an Assamese if need be. an how about this one below? He also asserted that any arrangement for autonomy without a provision for percolation of power down to the grass root level was meaningless. Such arrangements for autonomy creates a new type of oligarchy and the common people continue to languish as usual Await readers' comments. Expand base of Assamese society - AT By A Staff Reporter GUWAHATI, Feb 16 - Asam Sahitya Sabha president Kanaksen Deka today made an appeal to the people to wage an all out battle against inferiority complex that is afflicting the life of the State's people . He also urged upon the people to expand the base of the Assamese society by making the society assimilate all the new elements and also to become self-reliant engaging themselves in trade and commerce. He was addressing the fourth special annual session of the Asam Sahitya Sabha at the Belsor Sarat Chandra Goswami Kshetra in Nalbari district. Inferiority complex has made the State's people opt for English instead of their own language in all spheres of their life. This complex is luring the guardians to send their wards to the English medium schools. This is against the basic doctrines of education, which speak of imparting education at the primary level through mother tongues. This inclination towards English is a product of the hangover of our colonial past, Deka said. However, he clarified that he was not campaigning against learning English. The Sabha wants the people of the State to earn expertise in English too. But there is no justification to treat the English medium schools as superior to the Assamese medium schools. Most of the owners of the English medium schools are interested only in making money, they are less bothered to improve the standard of education, he said. The inferiority complex of the State's people
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?
Title: Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? At 5:23 PM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, *** Very slippery one this Ram--you are trying to rescue GoI again aren't you? No, not really - but if Assamese demand that of the GOI, wouldn't they have to know which group of people they are talking about, which group needs protection from the GOI so as not to become a minority in Assam. *** They ought to. But WHO do you hear from? Is it the people? Or is it the rags feeding out of MHA hands and spewing RAW sewage, and the politicians? The other day you observed that Rs. 1,000 is no big deal -- if it were to be levied as a fee for registering marriages. Shows how uninformed you are about Assam's realities. I don't blame you. You grew up at Guwahati :-). You might find it interesting to learn that fully one third of the couples ( at least) of my small village co-habit without EVER getting married. They just live together. And even highly developed counties with the best of civil institutions still recognize such unions -- as common-law couples. Because there are so many of them. (A case for protecting Assam from the unscrupulous Indians?) *** Are you suggesting that it is NOT an issue? If it is not, will you care to explain WHY? I explained WHY it is so. You did not explain why you take issue with my explanation. If you are serious about understanding the issues you would have at least explained why you do not agree. But you chose merely to re-iterate your own politically motivated and pre-conceived notions Ram. (Building a case why illegal immigration is important to Assam's economy - nay its survival?) *** Ditto the above again. You do not take a position on HOW you propose to resolve te problem, You do not fail to pay lip-service to the fact that it is a human problem too, as a perfunctory ritual, But you do not attempt to explain how it should be dealt with, and by WHOM. Instead you try to devalue it by equating my explanations about the Cown belt /Bollywood invasion of the NE with my concerns about the human aspects of the B'deshi migration. That is your choice. But it demonstrates that all you are interested in is protecting the Indian carpet-baggers' interests in Assam, while being oblivious of the poor migrants from B'desh, a far less powerful or influential group than the former. c-da *** Again, who an Assamese is is a FAKE question. Yes, that could be a fake question. Maybe the question is who else is trying to get into the Assamese bandwagon for ulterior motives, and who is trying to include others into this group? You seem to have more of a soft corner for the B'deshi illegals than for the Bihari thelawala -:) What gives C'da? *** What is the reason for your making this conclusion Ram? Can you explain? I was trying to deduce - maybe I am wrong, but you could clarify your statements below: there indeed is a distinction between those ( of different ethnic identities) who are indigenous peoples, and those who are in Assam as carpetbaggers--to exploit it, but have never accepted it as a home, regardless of how many generations they might have lived in its geographical boundaries. (A case for protecting Assam from the unscrupulous Indians?) and Besides, there is a HUMAN issue too. It is a POLITICAL problem in addition to one of legalities, just like the millions of undocumented aliens in the USA. Why do you think California won't deport all the undocumented Mexicans or Central Americans? Or why did Giuliani resisted his Republican party patriots who were attempting to oust the undocumented aliens that virtually RUN New York city today? Just like Califiornia, NY City will collapse overnight if all the undocumented are gone. US Agriculture will collapse across the continent if the undocumented Latino are thrown out, as would huge segments of the construction industry. (Building a case why illegal immigration is important to Assam's economy - nay its survival?) --Ram On 2/17/06, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 4:01 PM -0600 2/17/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da, *** It is a legal issue, of citizenship. Why are the Assamese RESPONSIBLE for defining it ? Doesn't India have a DEFINITION of who a citizen is? India does have a concrete definition for who is or is not an Indian citizenship. Obviously, India (GOI) is not going to define who and Assamese Citizen is? Because in India individual states do not offer citizenship rights (as some assume). *** Very slippery one this Ram--you are trying to rescue GoI again aren't you? I was NOT talking of WHO an Assamese is, I was referring to YOUIR concerns about them B'deshis. And my question stands: *** It is a legal issue, of citizenship. Why are the Assamese RESPONSIBLE for defining it ? Doesn't India have a DEFINITION of who a citizen is? The question of defining who an Assamese is, is more to do with how Assamese residents of Assam would like to define themselves than
Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex?
This is exactly a case where we say: Hobo Diok RB - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: Barua25 Cc: ASSAMNET Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? Dear Barua, I agree. By refusing to indulge in the controversy of the definition of Assamese, Assam Sahitya Sabha has indeed declared to the worldthat it is a controversy for which it cannot offer any resolution. Now this is a big issue I would say. ASS admitting that it is a issue like 'betonit poril ow, baxudebaye nomoh'. This is winning point for Delhi who wants to take advantage of the controversy. From the looks of it, this issue does seem to be controversial. If it were a benign issue, the Sahitya Sabha would have had no problem in giving their definition. They may not have relaized that there was also a controversy with the name Asom (instead of Oxom). So, where do we stand? The GOI will not do it, plus nobody will accept their definition. The Sahitya Sabha will not do it. The GOA will not do it. There are at least 4 or 5 different definitionsfloating around, and add to that the numerous nuances hanging on to each word in the definition. While some of are saying, it is really a fake issue. If it is, I don't think the GOI will take it upon itself to get into every state's bidness and go asking for such definitions. Why get into the trouble and getting itself embroiled in one more headache? --Ram On 2/17/06, Barua25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent controversy concerning the definition of the Assamese people" One would have thought that a body like the Sahitya Sabha would be the right body to define who is an Assamese if need be. an how about this one below? I agree. By refusing to indulge in the controversy of the definition of Assamese, Assam Sahitya Sabha has indeed declared to the worldthat it is a controversy for which it cannot offer any resolution. Now this is a big issue I would say. ASS admitting that it is a issue like 'betonit poril ow, baxudebaye nomoh'. This is winning point for Delhi who wants to take advantage of the controversy. RB - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: ASSAMNET Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:08 AM Subject: [Assam] Do Assamese have an inferiority complex? Highlights are mine. Some questions/comments though: "Inferiority complex has made the State's people opt for English instead of their own language in all spheres of their life." I think people learn English because its useful. Does knowing English, give one a 'superiority' edge? I don't think so. "He also clarified that the Asam Sahitya Sabha had not indulged in the recent controversy concerning the definition of the Assamese people" One would have thought that a body like the Sahitya Sabha would be the right body to define who is an Assamese if need be. an how about this one below? "He also asserted that any arrangement for autonomy without a provision for percolation of power down to the grass root level was meaningless. Such arrangements for autonomy creates a new type of oligarchy and the common people continue to languish as usual" Await readers' comments. Expand base of Assamese society - ATBy A Staff ReporterGUWAHATI, Feb 16 — Asam Sahitya Sabha president Kanaksen Deka today made an appeal to the people to wage an all out battle against inferiority complex that is afflicting the life of the State's people . He also urged upon the people to expand the base of the Assamese society by making the society assimilate all the new elements and also to become self-reliant engaging themselves in trade and commerce. He was addressing the fourth special annual session of the Asam Sahitya Sabha at the Belsor Sarat Chandra Goswami Kshetra in Nalbari district. Inferiority complex has made the State's people opt for English instead of their own language in all spheres of their life. This complex is luring the guardians to send their wards to the English medium schools. This is against the basic doctrines of education, which speak of imparting education at the primary level through mother tongues. This inclination towards English is a product of the hangover of our colonial past, Deka said. However, he clari
