Re: [Assp-user] [OT] Extreme slow on bigger emails

2016-09-14 Thread Robert K Coffman Jr. -Info From Data Corp.
If OpenVPN (which uses a software network "adapter") fixes the issue, I have to think that one thing that should be looked at is network adapter settings. I can't think of anything else that would be different between scenario one for Doug (STARTTLS over the internet) and scenario two

Re: [Assp-user] [OT] Extreme slow on bigger emails

2016-09-14 Thread K Post
So I guess the problem is bigger than just gmail inbound TLS encrypted mail for some. The question becomes, "Why?" Why is is slow/unusable for some, but not others? I suspect there are lots more installations run by people who don't participate here who are experiencing the same type of

Re: [Assp-user] [OT] Extreme slow on bigger emails

2016-09-14 Thread Doug Lytle
>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 9:21 AM, Robert K Coffman Jr. -Info From Data Corp. >>> bcoff...@infofromdata.com wrote: >>> Doug - can you clarify? If I'm understanding this, the VPN had nothing >>> to do with curing your timeouts, because you disabled STARTTLS? Or are >>> you doing STARTTLS over

Re: [Assp-user] [OT] Extreme slow on bigger emails

2016-09-14 Thread Robert K Coffman Jr. -Info From Data Corp.
> locations, I've setup OpenVPN as a connection and point there > Thunderbird/Seamonkey clients directly to my ASSP and ALL my timeout > problems went away. Doug - can you clarify? If I'm understanding this, the VPN had nothing to do with curing your timeouts, because you disabled STARTTLS? Or

Re: [Assp-user] [OT] Extreme slow on bigger emails

2016-09-14 Thread Doug Lytle
On 09/13/2016 06:46 PM, Peter Hinman wrote: If a VPN resolves the issue, that almost makes it sound like there's some sort of man-in-the-middle attack going on. I thought this as well, but have the same issues with our work setup, which is identical to mine, but with a different internet

Re: [Assp-user] [OT] Extreme slow on bigger emails

2016-09-13 Thread K Post
I'm talking TLS over SMTP, right over port 25 for inbound email. On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 9/13/2016 2:09 PM, K Post wrote: > > For clarification, the issue I see is with multi-megabyte files (12MB+) > > being

Re: [Assp-user] [OT] Extreme slow on bigger emails

2016-09-13 Thread Peter Hinman
On 9/13/2016 2:27 PM, Doug Lytle wrote: > > Now, here is a data point. > > For the few users that I have that are sending email from remote > locations, I've setup OpenVPN as a connection and point there > Thunderbird/Seamonkey clients directly to my ASSP and ALL my timeout > problems went

Re: [Assp-user] [OT] Extreme slow on bigger emails

2016-09-13 Thread Doug Lytle
On 09/13/2016 02:36 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: Do you actually mean TLS (ie, STARTTLS on port 143), or SSL (on port 993)? I have issues with STARTTLS on port 587. Some email just timeout. All of the ones that do timeout have attachments or forwarded email with attachments inline. Thomas tried

Re: [Assp-user] [OT] Extreme slow on bigger emails

2016-09-13 Thread Tanstaafl
On 9/13/2016 2:09 PM, K Post wrote: > For clarification, the issue I see is with multi-megabyte files (12MB+) > being unacceptably slow and google giving up on us with TLS on. We're on a > 100megabit per second line. Without TLS I see 15megabyte emails from gmail > come

Re: [Assp-user] [OT] Extreme slow on bigger emails

2016-09-13 Thread James Moe
On 09/12/2016 12:32 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: >> > mb = milli-bit. Not very large. >> > b = bit, or bar >> > B = byte >> > Perhaps you meant MB = mega-byte? The prefixes are case-sensitive. > Ummm... don't be pedantic. > It is a common ignorance in the tech industry, easily cured. On grumpier