SNIP
On the other hand... Go take a look at all of the ~$100 wireless
router/firewall/print server/gateway boxes on the market, and you'll see
one thing that almost all of them have in common: they all run Linux.
Most of them are even based on the same small number of tools; things
like
On 16/06/2004 at 22:53 Jay Milk wrote:
You're correct -- I believe I pointed out in my original post that there
is a $200+ difference between a cordless Cisco with/without software.
And that's plain ridiculous. Plus, the phone alone isn't worth $500 in
hardware -- so we're obviously dealing
I don't think I was missing the point. Hardware and software
development are very much the same -- In my original proposal, I
suggested a type of communal development -- engineers would receive a
share of the company proportional to the time they donated. I have done
this type of development on
On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 04:45, Michael Sandee wrote:
Am I dreaming?
Yes.
Community based development is too unreliable.
Just to refer to ongoing projects... Look at the farfon
(www.farfon.com), It's an active project in the final stages of development.
It offers the benefits
I took a little foray into pricing out IP Phones for my home pbx
yesterday. $75-$750 seems to be quite a range, so I took a closer look.
Cisco, for example, has different models such as the 7940 and 7960 which
seem to only differ in the software. And buying a Cisco 7920 should
cost you $500
Just to get an idea of hardware cost involved here:
- I can buy a 4-port router with built-in firewall, web-server and
email-client for $20-$30 RETAIL. That would indicate a hardware cost
of $10 max.
- I can purchase a Sipura SPA-2000 for $100 -- actual hardware cost
should be $50-$75.
Am I dreaming?
Yes.
Community based development is too unreliable.
Just to refer to ongoing projects... Look at the farfon
(www.farfon.com), It's an active project in the final stages of development.
It offers the benefits (modular, programming of your own features,
quality components, low
At 1:18 PM -0500 on 6/16/04, Jay Milk wrote:
I took a little foray into pricing out IP Phones for my home pbx
yesterday. $75-$750 seems to be quite a range, so I took a closer look.
[snip]
Am I dreaming?
Well, yes, you're sort-of dreaming.
The trick is not designing the hardware or the software -
On Jun 16, 2004, at 11:18 AM, Jay Milk wrote:
Cisco, for example, has different models such as the 7940 and 7960
which
seem to only differ in the software.
IIRC, the 7940 and 7960 run the same software, but differ slightly in
hardware. The 60 has 6 line appearance buttons, while the 40 has 2.
John Todd wrote:
failed companies run by engineers. Selling direct is a limited market;
there are only so many Asterisk home users that you can advertise to via
the mailing lists. :-)
I think there are enough of us resellers/consultants around here to make
a very viable business for a decent
Well, yes, you're sort-of dreaming.
The trick is not designing the hardware or the software - anyone with
$100k (or much, much less) and the right engineers can get something
working to the point where it is ready to be produced.
You will hit the wall with:
- finding reliable
Well if you just take a look at the sand that is needed to make the chips
you even get better prices...
Sand -- silicon -- chips -- PCB -- phone -- a lot of talking
It's not the material of the phone, it's the payroll of the people who make
the -- happen.-)
Never mind my rude simplification,
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Am I dreaming?
Firstly
Hi
Just to get an idea of hardware cost involved here:
- I can buy a 4-port router with built-in firewall, web-server and
email-client for $20-$30 RETAIL. That would indicate a hardware cost of
$10 max.
- I can purchase a Sipura SPA-2000 for $100 -- actual hardware cost
should be $50-$75.
You're correct -- I believe I pointed out in my original post that there
is a $200+ difference between a cordless Cisco with/without software.
And that's plain ridiculous. Plus, the phone alone isn't worth $500 in
hardware -- so we're obviously dealing with GREED here.
My knee-jerk response to
Hi,
Getting off-topic on the list - so let's do this in email instead.
And that's plain ridiculous. Plus, the phone alone isn't worth $500 in
hardware -- so we're obviously dealing with GREED here.
Well, that's what most public listed companies are driven by.
much better solution at a
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