Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-21 Thread Steve Underwood
Holger Schurig wrote: Unless someone does something serious about the flakiness of libtiff, I don't think either spandsp or Hylafax will ever be very stable. :-( Delete the word unless. And then create a subdirectory spandsp/tiff where you put a libtiff into it that actually works. Create

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-21 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Monday 21 June 2004 11:02, Steve Underwood wrote: That isn't what I meant. libtiff is really flaky when you give it a bad tiff file. It used to core dump on almost any fault. I fed updates back to the libtiff guys a few years ago, which I think went in. Others must have contributed most

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-21 Thread Steve Underwood
Lee Howard wrote: I've never seen this kind of flakiness of libtiff cause any problems for HylaFAX. As far as I'm aware, there has only been two instances when libtiff caused HylaFAX any grief. The 3.6.1 release problem with G3/G4 is a given. And then there was the 16-to-32 bit type change

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-21 Thread Darren Nickerson
It doesn't matter what facilities you use. If you get libtiff to open a bad TIFF file, it may well dump core. TIFF has been one of the most abused standards over the years. It used to be that hardly any FAX software would read the TIFFs produced by another package - both because they were

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Klaus-Peter Junghanns
We would think about having 2 servers : Server A : Asterisk PRI card (Digium TE410P) Server B : Fax server PRI card (Eicon PRI30M) Call --- TE410P/1 --- Asterisk Extension --- Voice ? --- Voicemail or Dial Fax ?--- TE410P/2 crossover

RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Michael Devenijn
i'dd like to but is it stable enough for production (receiving over 500 faxes a day ?) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Klaus-Peter Junghanns Sent: vrijdag 18 juni 2004 13:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon

RE: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Klaus-Peter Junghanns
i'dd like to but is it stable enough for production (receiving over 500 faxes a day ?) i think it is. at least i know someone who is using it in production on a Digium E1 card. If everything else fails you can buy that eicon card later on in the worst case. best regards Klaus --

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Lee Howard
: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI save 10k EUR and use spandDSP (www.opencall.org) for fax instead of the second server with the Eicon PRI card. Michael best regards Klaus -- Klaus-Peter Junghanns ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Klaus-Peter Junghanns
better send the EUR 10k (not $10k... :) ) to the author of spandDSP. Nobody needs HylaFAX for receiving faxes. Converting a tiff to pdf and storing it somewhere is not rocket science. ;) best regards Klaus Am Fr, 2004-06-18 um 17.08 schrieb Lee Howard: If you would rather use HylaFAX instead

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Friday 18 June 2004 11:08, Lee Howard wrote: If you would rather use HylaFAX instead of spandsp and have $10K to throw around, then may I suggest hiring an Asterisk channel author to write a T.38-supporting channel driver? That way you could just use t38modem with HylaFAX, and you wouldn't

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Darren Nickerson
You don't even need spandsp - fax is dead, remember? ;-) -d - Original Message - From: Klaus-Peter Junghanns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI better send the EUR 10k (not $10k

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Friday 18 June 2004 11:10, Klaus-Peter Junghanns wrote: better send the EUR 10k (not $10k... :) ) to the author of spandDSP. Nobody needs HylaFAX for receiving faxes. Converting a tiff to pdf and storing it somewhere is not rocket science. ;) Incorrect. I've been unable to get spandsp

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Klaus-Peter Junghanns
Am Fr, 2004-06-18 um 17.53 schrieb Darren Nickerson: You don't even need spandsp - fax is dead, remember? ;-) Why do YOU sell hylafax servers then? ;) best regards Klaus ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Steve Underwood
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Friday 18 June 2004 11:10, Klaus-Peter Junghanns wrote: better send the EUR 10k (not $10k... :) ) to the author of spandDSP. Nobody needs HylaFAX for receiving faxes. Converting a tiff to pdf and storing it somewhere is not rocket science. ;) Incorrect. I've

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Lee Howard
On 2004.06.18 08:34 Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Friday 18 June 2004 11:08, Lee Howard wrote: If you would rather use HylaFAX instead of spandsp and have $10K to throw around, then may I suggest hiring an Asterisk channel author to write a T.38-supporting channel driver? That way you could just

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Steve Underwood
Klaus-Peter Junghanns wrote: Am Fr, 2004-06-18 um 17.53 schrieb Darren Nickerson: You don't even need spandsp - fax is dead, remember? ;-) Why do YOU sell hylafax servers then? ;) best regards Klaus Working with the dead never stopped undertakers making a living :-) Regards, Steve

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Lee Howard
On 2004.06.18 08:10 Klaus-Peter Junghanns wrote: better send the EUR 10k (not $10k... :) ) to the author of spandDSP. Nobody needs HylaFAX for receiving faxes. Firstly, I'm not just talking about receiving faxes. If my choices are between HylaFAX and spandsp and if I want outbound queueing and a

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Friday 18 June 2004 12:37, Steve Underwood wrote: The segfaults I have followed up on have all been due to libtiff versions. Are you sure there isn't some other version of libtiff lurking on your machine? If there isn't I would like to follow up with you and find why this happens. Many

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Darren Nickerson
- Original Message - From: Klaus-Peter Junghanns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI Am Fr, 2004-06-18 um 17.53 schrieb Darren Nickerson: You don't even need spandsp - fax is dead, remember

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Friday 18 June 2004 13:20, Lee Howard wrote: Well, if you don't like t38modem, then a really cool thing would be if you wrote a T.38 driver for HylaFAX also. So then Asterisk and HylaFAX could play together without t38modem, without the AT command-response language limitations. I wasn't

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Klaus-Peter Junghanns
Am Fr, 2004-06-18 um 19.56 schrieb Lee Howard: Firstly, I'm not just talking about receiving faxes. If my choices are between HylaFAX and spandsp and if I want outbound queueing and a client-server interface for networked usage, then spandsp will not cut it alone. So yes, anyone who

[OT] Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Darren Nickerson
Furthermore, even if you assumed that spandsp was as stable as HylaFAX, there is a vast feature-set difference between them as far as the faxing itself goes. Steve has already made it clear that he sees no future in fax, and that he does not intend to bridge that feature-set gap at all.

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Martin List-Petersen
Citat Klaus-Peter Junghanns [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Fr, 2004-06-18 um 19.56 schrieb Lee Howard: Firstly, I'm not just talking about receiving faxes. If my choices are between HylaFAX and spandsp and if I want outbound queueing and a client-server interface for networked usage, then

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Steve Underwood
Lee Howard wrote: Furthermore, even if you assumed that spandsp was as stable as HylaFAX, there is a vast feature-set difference between them as far as the faxing itself goes. Steve has already made it clear that he sees no future in fax, and that he does not intend to bridge that feature-set

Re: [Asterisk-Users] TE410P / Eicon PRI

2004-06-18 Thread Lee Howard
On 2004.06.18 20:02 Steve Underwood wrote: Lee Howard wrote: So, show me a T.38 channel driver for Asterisk. And if you think that using t38modem is ugly, then show me a T.38 driver for HylaFAX. I really want to see spandsp talking through T.38 across the internet. T.38 and fax to/from e-mail