Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-15 Thread Rilawich Ango
I have multiple queues in my case.  Do you mean multiple queues is one
of the reason to consume memory?  How to only reset the queue stats?

 You will see asterisk behave its worst with multiple queues and heavy
 dialplan logic. I restart my boxes with queues everynight at midnight
 just to reset the queue stats displayed with show queue.



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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-14 Thread Doug Bailey
If you want to flush your disk cache to see how much memory is being eaten 
cache pages, try this:
 echo 3 /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches

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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-14 Thread Al lists
Always rely on free -m to see how much free memory you have not top.
in terms of memory leak, i have asterisk running on servers with uptime of
400 days (CentOs), if there was any leak, i'm guessing i would have crashed
server long time ago.

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 If you want to flush your disk cache to see how much memory is being eaten
 cache pages, try this:
  echo 3 /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches

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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-14 Thread Erik Anderson
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Al lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Always rely on free -m to see how much free memory you have not top.

You could install and use htop - it's a much more functional (and
informative) version of top.  It shows the difference between
shared/buffer/cache memory.

-erik

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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-14 Thread Anthony Francis
Al lists wrote:
 Always rely on free -m to see how much free memory you have not top.
 in terms of memory leak, i have asterisk running on servers with 
 uptime of 400 days (CentOs), if there was any leak, i'm guessing i 
 would have crashed server long time ago.

 On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Doug Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you want to flush your disk cache to see how much memory is
 being eaten cache pages, try this:
  echo 3 /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches

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You will see asterisk behave its worst with multiple queues and heavy 
dialplan logic. I restart my boxes with queues everynight at midnight 
just to reset the queue stats displayed with show queue.

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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 09:32:04PM -0600, Erik Anderson wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Al lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Always rely on free -m to see how much free memory you have not top.
 
 You could install and use htop - it's a much more functional (and
 informative) version of top.  It shows the difference between
 shared/buffer/cache memory.

It also consumes more CPU.

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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-14 Thread Erik Anderson
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It also consumes more CPU.

True, a fraction more.  If you have that little overhead on your
server, though, that this would cause a problem, you probably should
upgrade your hardware, IMHO.

-eriik

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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-13 Thread randulo
On Feb 13, 2008 8:48 AM, Rilawich Ango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually, I donno it is a memory leak or not.  I have a server only
 running asterisk.  As time goes by, the free memory shown in the top
 is decreased.  After I restart the asterisk, the free memory comes

I observed the same behavior. Someone told me that that's a normal
feature of linux, it manages memory that way. If that's true, than it
isn't normal to see the same (large) amount of free memory over time
on a box running asterisk only. However, I rarely restart and it
hasn't caused problems. Here's mine right now:

09:14:39  up 73 days, 18:47,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
67 processes: 65 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:   0.1% user   3.9% system   0.0% nice   0.0% iowait  95.8% idle
Mem:   515460k av,  509416k used,6044k free,   0k shrd,   80052k buff
   152896k active, 191472k inactive
Swap:  477248k av,   0k used,  477248k free  242404k cached

'course, these days, half a meg isn't much :)

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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 03:48:14PM +0800, Rilawich Ango wrote:
 Actually, I donno it is a memory leak or not.  I have a server only
 running asterisk.  As time goes by, the free memory shown in the top
 is decreased.  After I restart the asterisk, the free memory comes
 again.  That's why I wonder if regular restart asterisk is necessary.
 Use a crontab to restart asterisk is a way to do it but you have to
 maintain a crontab.  Is it possible to use logrotate instead?  Or
 other better way?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free -m
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   485477  7  0  0100
-/+ buffers/cache:376108
Swap: 1419270   1149
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ top -b | head -n 5
top - 10:18:32 up 19 days, 14:38, 24 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.33, 0.21
Tasks: 166 total,   1 running, 163 sleeping,   2 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  1.1%us,  0.1%sy,  0.0%ni, 98.2%id,  0.5%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Mem:496648k total,   489044k used, 7604k free,   32k buffers
Swap:  1453840k total,   276740k used,  1177100k free,   103380k cached
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps aux | grep asterisk
asterisk  9559  0.0  2.5 474896 12892 ?Ssl  Feb12   0:00 
/usr/sbin/asterisk -p -U asterisk

Gee, I only have 7 MB free! I must reboot to free some memory! And that
Asterisk is using so much memory!

In fact:
1. The system has some 100MB of free memory. almost all of it is used
for caching and such.

2. Asterisk overcommits memory: it generally asks the kernel huge
ammounts of memory, but doesn't really try to use them. At least with
Linux such overcommits are not claimed at all.

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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 02:31:11PM +0100, randulo wrote:
 On Feb 13, 2008 9:29 AM, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Gee, I only have 7 MB free! I must reboot to free some memory! And that
  Asterisk is using so much memory!
 
 Do I detect a tiny bit of sarcasm here? Someone from Digium (or
 elsewhere) might be able to jump in and explain the asterisk memory
 strategy and why it doesn't have any detrimental effects on anything
 else running on the same system.

Sarcastic indeed. Indeed all those assertions were false.

Off-Topic:
The big memory consumer I have on my system is $GECKO_BROWSER. I
currently have iceape (seamonkey), after just one day of operation:

tzafrir   8186  1.1 53.1 763016 264008 ?   Ssl  Feb12  19:23 
/usr/lib/iceape/iceape-bin

Iceweasel (firefox), epiphany and kazehakase don't seem to be much
different.

So I have no issues with the little copy of Asterisk on my desktop
system...

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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-13 Thread randulo
On Feb 13, 2008 9:29 AM, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Gee, I only have 7 MB free! I must reboot to free some memory! And that
 Asterisk is using so much memory!

Do I detect a tiny bit of sarcasm here? Someone from Digium (or
elsewhere) might be able to jump in and explain the asterisk memory
strategy and why it doesn't have any detrimental effects on anything
else running on the same system.

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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 03:02:23PM +0100, Haan Patrick wrote:
 which distribution do you use?
 Maybe a Fedora 7

Debian Testing here.

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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-13 Thread Atis Lezdins
On 2/13/08, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 03:48:14PM +0800, Rilawich Ango wrote:
  Actually, I donno it is a memory leak or not.  I have a server only
  running asterisk.  As time goes by, the free memory shown in the top
  is decreased.  After I restart the asterisk, the free memory comes
  again.  That's why I wonder if regular restart asterisk is necessary.
  Use a crontab to restart asterisk is a way to do it but you have to
  maintain a crontab.  Is it possible to use logrotate instead?  Or
  other better way?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free -m
  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
 Mem:   485477  7  0  0100
 -/+ buffers/cache:376108
 Swap: 1419270   1149
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ top -b | head -n 5
 top - 10:18:32 up 19 days, 14:38, 24 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.33, 0.21
 Tasks: 166 total,   1 running, 163 sleeping,   2 stopped,   0 zombie
 Cpu(s):  1.1%us,  0.1%sy,  0.0%ni, 98.2%id,  0.5%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
 Mem:496648k total,   489044k used, 7604k free,   32k buffers
 Swap:  1453840k total,   276740k used,  1177100k free,   103380k cached
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps aux | grep asterisk
 asterisk  9559  0.0  2.5 474896 12892 ?Ssl  Feb12   0:00 
 /usr/sbin/asterisk -p -U asterisk

 Gee, I only have 7 MB free! I must reboot to free some memory! And that
 Asterisk is using so much memory!

Guys, don't start panic here. This is perfectly normal memory status
for Linux. Linux automatically uses most free memory for disk cache,
leaving only few megabytes, and frees disk cache as soon as any
application requests. This has nothing to do with Asterisk.

Regards,
Atis


 In fact:
 1. The system has some 100MB of free memory. almost all of it is used
 for caching and such.

 2. Asterisk overcommits memory: it generally asks the kernel huge
 ammounts of memory, but doesn't really try to use them. At least with
 Linux such overcommits are not claimed at all.

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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-13 Thread ast erisk
So that´s why I´ve always get a red bar on home screen of the Trixbox?

Phisical memory is always at top most use, near 100% (green bar turns red on
high level of memory use), and below it there is Kernel / Application,
Buffers, Cached memory uses.

tks,






On Feb 13, 2008 12:51 PM, Atis Lezdins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2/13/08, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 03:48:14PM +0800, Rilawich Ango wrote:
   Actually, I donno it is a memory leak or not.  I have a server only
   running asterisk.  As time goes by, the free memory shown in the top
   is decreased.  After I restart the asterisk, the free memory comes
   again.  That's why I wonder if regular restart asterisk is necessary.
   Use a crontab to restart asterisk is a way to do it but you have to
   maintain a crontab.  Is it possible to use logrotate instead?  Or
   other better way?
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free -m
   total   used   free sharedbuffers
 cached
  Mem:   485477  7  0  0
  100
  -/+ buffers/cache:376108
  Swap: 1419270   1149
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ top -b | head -n 5
  top - 10:18:32 up 19 days, 14:38, 24 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.33,
 0.21
  Tasks: 166 total,   1 running, 163 sleeping,   2 stopped,   0 zombie
  Cpu(s):  1.1%us,  0.1%sy,  0.0%ni, 98.2%id,  0.5%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,
 0.0%st
  Mem:496648k total,   489044k used, 7604k free,   32k buffers
  Swap:  1453840k total,   276740k used,  1177100k free,   103380k cached
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps aux | grep asterisk
  asterisk  9559  0.0  2.5 474896 12892 ?Ssl  Feb12   0:00
 /usr/sbin/asterisk -p -U asterisk
 
  Gee, I only have 7 MB free! I must reboot to free some memory! And that
  Asterisk is using so much memory!

 Guys, don't start panic here. This is perfectly normal memory status
 for Linux. Linux automatically uses most free memory for disk cache,
 leaving only few megabytes, and frees disk cache as soon as any
 application requests. This has nothing to do with Asterisk.

 Regards,
 Atis

 
  In fact:
  1. The system has some 100MB of free memory. almost all of it is used
  for caching and such.
 
  2. Asterisk overcommits memory: it generally asks the kernel huge
  ammounts of memory, but doesn't really try to use them. At least with
  Linux such overcommits are not claimed at all.
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-13 Thread Haan Patrick
which distribution do you use?
Maybe a Fedora 7

greez
patrick



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On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 02:31:11PM +0100, randulo wrote:
 On Feb 13, 2008 9:29 AM, Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  Gee, I only have 7 MB free! I must reboot to free some memory! And 
  that Asterisk is using so much memory!
 
 Do I detect a tiny bit of sarcasm here? Someone from Digium (or
 elsewhere) might be able to jump in and explain the asterisk memory 
 strategy and why it doesn't have any detrimental effects on anything 
 else running on the same system.

Sarcastic indeed. Indeed all those assertions were false.

Off-Topic:
The big memory consumer I have on my system is $GECKO_BROWSER. I currently have 
iceape (seamonkey), after just one day of operation:

tzafrir   8186  1.1 53.1 763016 264008 ?   Ssl  Feb12  19:23 
/usr/lib/iceape/iceape-bin

Iceweasel (firefox), epiphany and kazehakase don't seem to be much different.

So I have no issues with the little copy of Asterisk on my desktop system...

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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-12 Thread Alex Balashov
Matt Riddell wrote:
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 Rilawich Ango wrote:
 Hi all,
   I found that there will be a memory leak if asterisk running day by
 day without restart.  Is it good to restart asterisk service daily?
 What is the better way to restart it daily like apache?
 
 What makes you think there is a memory leak?

I don't know about a memory leak, but I've found too that Asterisk 
benefits from a daily restart in all installations of any kind of 
serious scale that I've managed.  This tends to improve application 
performance, mainly.  Found this to be true of 1.2 and 1.4.

Of course, I could be completely wrong -- I have no real way of knowing 
whether the solution corresponds genuinely underlying problem.

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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-12 Thread Marc Charbonneau
   I found that there will be a memory leak if asterisk running day by
 day without restart.  Is it good to restart asterisk service daily?
 What is the better way to restart it daily like apache?
Probably depends on the version of Asterisk, but I don't restart daily

From one in production used daily with call recording, conference, etc :
System uptime: 18 weeks, 5 days, 10 hours, 56 minutes, 37 seconds

And the last reboot was because of a major power failure that lasted
longer than the UPS could stand.

The worst I've seen was a weekly restart of Asterisk, just to be on
the safe side

What version of Asterisk are you using ?

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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-12 Thread Matt Riddell
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Rilawich Ango wrote:
 Hi all,
   I found that there will be a memory leak if asterisk running day by
 day without restart.  Is it good to restart asterisk service daily?
 What is the better way to restart it daily like apache?

What makes you think there is a memory leak?

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[asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-12 Thread Rilawich Ango
Hi all,
  I found that there will be a memory leak if asterisk running day by
day without restart.  Is it good to restart asterisk service daily?
What is the better way to restart it daily like apache?
ango

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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-12 Thread Rilawich Ango
Actually, I donno it is a memory leak or not.  I have a server only
running asterisk.  As time goes by, the free memory shown in the top
is decreased.  After I restart the asterisk, the free memory comes
again.  That's why I wonder if regular restart asterisk is necessary.
Use a crontab to restart asterisk is a way to do it but you have to
maintain a crontab.  Is it possible to use logrotate instead?  Or
other better way?

On Feb 13, 2008 3:26 PM, Atis Lezdins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2/13/08, Rilawich Ango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
I found that there will be a memory leak if asterisk running day by
  day without restart.  Is it good to restart asterisk service daily?
  What is the better way to restart it daily like apache?
  ango
 

 I have cron script that restarts daily by /etc/init.d/asterisk restart
 - that way asterisk is completely stopped and then started again. Long
 ago, for 1.2 this was helping to reduce crashes on working time.
 Anyway - i prefer to restart if i have some inactivity time anyway,
 rather than have a small chance that it will crash while lot's of
 calls are going trough. So, if you have timeframe when you know for
 sure that there won't be any calls, you can restart by initscript.
 Otherwise, if you have low call volume in night-time, you may modify
 safe_asterisk script to start asterisk anyway (even if it returns ok
 exit stats that means shutdown), and then stop asterisk by stop when
 convenient)

 Regards,
 Atis

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 VoIP Developer,
 IQ Labs Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype: atis.lezdins
 Cell Phone: +371 28806004
 Work phone: +1 800 7502835


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Re: [asterisk-users] restart asterisk daily

2008-02-12 Thread Atis Lezdins
On 2/13/08, Rilawich Ango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
   I found that there will be a memory leak if asterisk running day by
 day without restart.  Is it good to restart asterisk service daily?
 What is the better way to restart it daily like apache?
 ango


I have cron script that restarts daily by /etc/init.d/asterisk restart
- that way asterisk is completely stopped and then started again. Long
ago, for 1.2 this was helping to reduce crashes on working time.
Anyway - i prefer to restart if i have some inactivity time anyway,
rather than have a small chance that it will crash while lot's of
calls are going trough. So, if you have timeframe when you know for
sure that there won't be any calls, you can restart by initscript.
Otherwise, if you have low call volume in night-time, you may modify
safe_asterisk script to start asterisk anyway (even if it returns ok
exit stats that means shutdown), and then stop asterisk by stop when
convenient)

Regards,
Atis

-- 
Atis Lezdins
VoIP Developer,
IQ Labs Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: atis.lezdins
Cell Phone: +371 28806004
Work phone: +1 800 7502835

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