[Aus-soaring] Happy ending
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Re: [Aus-soaring] iGlide Application
Hi Stuart I have asked the same question, but I don't think anybody has tried it yet. I decided to bite the bullet and just buy a copy, but since it is not available on the Australian Apple store, I could not. I think that to purchase this you will need an account on the German or English iTunes. Since my phone is nearing its contract end I'll probably just get the new Galaxy S2 and run XCsoar on android instead. Tom - Original Message - From: Stuart Kerri FERGUSON s...@bigpond.net.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 10:09 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] iGlide Application Has anyone in the group used or know of anyone who has used any of the iGlide applications? They look like just another software package the competes with SeeYou, XCsoar etc designed for Apple hardware, to date they have not been rated by users. Stuart FERGUSON Phone - 0419 797508 Sent from iPad ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] iGlide Application
Folk, I tried this for fun on my iPad when flying in the Pooch as coach, and it works fine apart from the fact that the iPad objects to high temps in the cockpit and shutdown mid flight. not to mention battery life as an issue when using GPS and 3G network...to get real time weather and NAV. Lots of apps with potential for the iPad but will need some work before it's reliable for use as a primary NAV or comp instrument, but it's only a matter of time. Best Regards, Mike Durrant VH-FQF On 29/05/2011, at 6:08 PM, Tom Wilksch tom.wilk...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi Stuart I have asked the same question, but I don't think anybody has tried it yet. I decided to bite the bullet and just buy a copy, but since it is not available on the Australian Apple store, I could not. I think that to purchase this you will need an account on the German or English iTunes. Since my phone is nearing its contract end I'll probably just get the new Galaxy S2 and run XCsoar on android instead. Tom - Original Message - From: Stuart Kerri FERGUSON s...@bigpond.net.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 10:09 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] iGlide Application Has anyone in the group used or know of anyone who has used any of the iGlide applications? They look like just another software package the competes with SeeYou, XCsoar etc designed for Apple hardware, to date they have not been rated by users. Stuart FERGUSON Phone - 0419 797508 Sent from iPad ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] iGlide Application
At 06:08 PM 29/05/2011, you wrote: Hi Stuart I have asked the same question, but I don't think anybody has tried it yet. I decided to bite the bullet and just buy a copy, but since it is not available on the Australian Apple store, I could not. I think that to purchase this you will need an account on the German or English iTunes. Since my phone is nearing its contract end I'll probably just get the new Galaxy S2 and run XCsoar on android instead. Tom I had a look at an HTC phone running Android when in Perth recently. I wasn't able to look at it in bright sunlight but the active matrix organic light emitting diode screen (AMOLED) seems a giant leap over the LCD screens. It seems that running these is somewhat complex so simply buying the phone and using it complete with screen is going to be by far the cheapest way to go. Does anyone know if the PC connection can be hacked to feed external data into say XCSoar running on the phone? Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] iGlide Application
XCSoar has been released for Android, ref: https://market.android.com/details?id=org.xcsoar Version 6.1 has been released for nearly a month now - I don't run it on Android but on a repurposed Binatone Car GPS. Cheers Simon Marko On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: At 06:08 PM 29/05/2011, you wrote: Hi Stuart I have asked the same question, but I don't think anybody has tried it yet. I decided to bite the bullet and just buy a copy, but since it is not available on the Australian Apple store, I could not. I think that to purchase this you will need an account on the German or English iTunes. Since my phone is nearing its contract end I'll probably just get the new Galaxy S2 and run XCsoar on android instead. Tom I had a look at an HTC phone running Android when in Perth recently. I wasn't able to look at it in bright sunlight but the active matrix organic light emitting diode screen (AMOLED) seems a giant leap over the LCD screens. It seems that running these is somewhat complex so simply buying the phone and using it complete with screen is going to be by far the cheapest way to go. Does anyone know if the PC connection can be hacked to feed external data into say XCSoar running on the phone? Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] iGlide Application
Hi Mike, I have a HTC Desire HD which I use as a backup logger (running XCSoar) in the cockpit, and find to be superior in brightness and contrast to my old pda (hx4700). Many of the XCSoar developers have 5 Android Dell Streaks (http://www.dell.com/au/p/mobile-streak/pd), which have a transflective display (uses the sun as the backlight), and they seem to have superb sun-readability, far better than AMOLED, LCD or any other screens I'm aware of. I'm not aware of anyone mass producing com-port cables for Android hardware yet, but it is possible to make your own. The popular method at the moment is to use a K6-bt (http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/k6.htm), a small device you can plug any gps source (cambridge/flarm etc) and then use bluetooth to connect to it. This will also allow you to control the cambridge/flarm from XCSoar, no hacking required! Having had bad experiences with Windows CE/Mobile and bluetooth in the past I was somewhat skeptical of bluetooth for navigation, but I hear that Android's bluetooth stack is as reliable as using a cable. ~Matthew~ On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Mike Borgelt mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com wrote: At 06:08 PM 29/05/2011, you wrote: Hi Stuart I have asked the same question, but I don't think anybody has tried it yet. I decided to bite the bullet and just buy a copy, but since it is not available on the Australian Apple store, I could not. I think that to purchase this you will need an account on the German or English iTunes. Since my phone is nearing its contract end I'll probably just get the new Galaxy S2 and run XCsoar on android instead. Tom I had a look at an HTC phone running Android when in Perth recently. I wasn't able to look at it in bright sunlight but the active matrix organic light emitting diode screen (AMOLED) seems a giant leap over the LCD screens. It seems that running these is somewhat complex so simply buying the phone and using it complete with screen is going to be by far the cheapest way to go. Does anyone know if the PC connection can be hacked to feed external data into say XCSoar running on the phone? Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] iGlide Application
Can I ask how you went about downloading it? Maybe I'm missing something, but I couldn't get it to work. Thanks Tom - Original Message - From: Mike Durrant durr...@gmail.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Cc: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] iGlide Application Folk, I tried this for fun on my iPad when flying in the Pooch as coach, and it works fine apart from the fact that the iPad objects to high temps in the cockpit and shutdown mid flight. not to mention battery life as an issue when using GPS and 3G network...to get real time weather and NAV. Lots of apps with potential for the iPad but will need some work before it's reliable for use as a primary NAV or comp instrument, but it's only a matter of time. Best Regards, Mike Durrant VH-FQF On 29/05/2011, at 6:08 PM, Tom Wilksch tom.wilk...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi Stuart I have asked the same question, but I don't think anybody has tried it yet. I decided to bite the bullet and just buy a copy, but since it is not available on the Australian Apple store, I could not. I think that to purchase this you will need an account on the German or English iTunes. Since my phone is nearing its contract end I'll probably just get the new Galaxy S2 and run XCsoar on android instead. Tom - Original Message - From: Stuart Kerri FERGUSON s...@bigpond.net.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 10:09 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] iGlide Application Has anyone in the group used or know of anyone who has used any of the iGlide applications? They look like just another software package the competes with SeeYou, XCsoar etc designed for Apple hardware, to date they have not been rated by users. Stuart FERGUSON Phone - 0419 797508 Sent from iPad ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] iGlide Application
Oops not iGlide rather Glidepath.came to conclusion iPad not really a good idea Best Regards, Mike Durrant VH-FQF On 29/05/2011, at 8:40 PM, Tom Wilksch tom.wilk...@internode.on.net wrote: Can I ask how you went about downloading it? Maybe I'm missing something, but I couldn't get it to work. Thanks Tom - Original Message - From: Mike Durrant durr...@gmail.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Cc: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] iGlide Application Folk, I tried this for fun on my iPad when flying in the Pooch as coach, and it works fine apart from the fact that the iPad objects to high temps in the cockpit and shutdown mid flight. not to mention battery life as an issue when using GPS and 3G network...to get real time weather and NAV. Lots of apps with potential for the iPad but will need some work before it's reliable for use as a primary NAV or comp instrument, but it's only a matter of time. Best Regards, Mike Durrant VH-FQF On 29/05/2011, at 6:08 PM, Tom Wilksch tom.wilk...@internode.on.net wrote: Hi Stuart I have asked the same question, but I don't think anybody has tried it yet. I decided to bite the bullet and just buy a copy, but since it is not available on the Australian Apple store, I could not. I think that to purchase this you will need an account on the German or English iTunes. Since my phone is nearing its contract end I'll probably just get the new Galaxy S2 and run XCsoar on android instead. Tom - Original Message - From: Stuart Kerri FERGUSON s...@bigpond.net.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 10:09 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] iGlide Application Has anyone in the group used or know of anyone who has used any of the iGlide applications? They look like just another software package the competes with SeeYou, XCsoar etc designed for Apple hardware, to date they have not been rated by users. Stuart FERGUSON Phone - 0419 797508 Sent from iPad ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Stalls
WTF http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/05/28/357321/revised-stall-procedures-centre-on-angle-of-attack-not.html Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Stalls
Scary, isn't it? -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Monday, 30 May 2011 11:27 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Stalls WTF http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/05/28/357321/revised-stall-procedu res-centre-on-angle-of-attack-not.html Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 email: mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com website: www.borgeltinstruments.com ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Stalls
On 30/05/2011 10:57 AM, Mike Borgelt wrote: WTF http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/05/28/357321/revised-stall-procedures-centre-on-angle-of-attack-not.html Exactly. I've been reading the PPRuNe threads on this sad business since day one. (OK I know some people will claim that PPRuNe is full of BS etc, but I see it as any other group of pages on the internet - of which much the same can and must be said - this group excepted of course). Only in the last few days has this astonishing SOP been revealed. There are reasons behind it of course, and they are interesting and partly logical, but the basic concept remains completely foreign to what most of us would expect, and on this occasion it failed everyone on board with tragic results. This policy and others will be dissected extensively in extensive meeting rooms and courts of law over the next few years. It's not over yet. Terry ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Stalls
I know nothing about nothing which is probably apparent from my postings, but can someone tell me, do instruments like an artificial horizon give these pilots any indication of nose angle or angle of incidence? I was attempting to explain a stall like this to #2 wife and had difficulty understanding why they did not put the nose down or look at an instrument to tell them their AOA since they would have had some minutes to think about this during what appears to have been a tail down plunge. At least if the SOPs have changed, I can persuade her to get on another plane. D ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
Re: [Aus-soaring] Stalls
Oh god ! one of those is enough. those who go back for more need a jolly good talking to. Patch - Original Message - From: Christopher Mc Donnell wommamuku...@bigpond.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, 30 May, 2011 1:54:59 PM GMT +10:00 Canberra / Melbourne / Sydney Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Stalls I was attempting to explain ... this to #2 wife. No! no! D bin D. You get the senior #1 wife to explain things to the junior wives. :-) C bin D - Original Message - From: DMcD slutsw...@gmail.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Stalls I know nothing about nothing which is probably apparent from my postings, but can someone tell me, do instruments like an artificial horizon give these pilots any indication of nose angle or angle of incidence? I was attempting to explain a stall like this to #2 wife and had difficulty understanding why they did not put the nose down or look at an instrument to tell them their AOA since they would have had some minutes to think about this during what appears to have been a tail down plunge. At least if the SOPs have changed, I can persuade her to get on another plane. D ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
