Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial

2012-07-18 Thread Harry
Hi All, The amazing flights referred resulted from some rather special weather conditions.Most of you would remember the Sydney to Hobart fleet which ran into a ferocious storm of the Victorian coast and into Bass Strait. Some boats were sunk and lives lost. This abnormal low pressure system

Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial

2012-07-18 Thread Harry
Hi All, The amazing flights referred resulted from some rather special weather conditions.Most of you would remember the Sydney to Hobart fleet which ran into a ferocious storm of the Victorian coast and into Bass Strait. Some boats were sunk and lives lost. This abnormal low pressure system

Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial

2012-07-18 Thread Harry
Hi All, The amazing flights referred resulted from some rather special weather conditions.Most of you would remember the Sydney to Hobart fleet which ran into a ferocious storm of the Victorian coast and into Bass Strait. Some boats were sunk and lives lost. This abnormal low pressure system

Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial

2012-07-18 Thread Simon Holding
Genesis 41:29? -Original Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Matthew Scutter Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2012 1:22 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring]

Re: [Aus-soaring] Funding - Federal Volunteers Grant

2012-07-18 Thread JR
Thanks Grant, been exremely wet down here, havent flown yet. cheers JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring

Re: [Aus-soaring] Funding - Federal Volunteers Grant

2012-07-18 Thread JR
Is that an ailment, I thought it meant you were in europe well I guess you learn something new everyday. JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit:

Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial

2012-07-18 Thread gstevo10
Very good Simon! WPP certainly has some support for his 7 year theory there. Many would say that if it is in the Bible it must be true. Now where is that dratted cup of mine? I have to consult the tea leaves. Gary - Original Message - From: Simon Holding shold...@hotmail.com To:

Re: [Aus-soaring] Funding - Federal Volunteers Grant

2012-07-18 Thread Christopher McDonnell
You two! Surely you know by now that fun ist verboten From: JR Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:16 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Funding - Federal Volunteers Grant Is that an ailment, I thought it meant you were in europe well I

Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial

2012-07-18 Thread gstevo10
Hallo Simon, Did you notice if you drop the y off year, you get ear, which is of course very relevant to Genesis 41. However when it comes to ears, I prefer Shakespeare's Julius Caesar, Act III, Scene II, with includes Mark Antony's speech beginning Friend's Romans, countrymen, lend me your

Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial

2012-07-18 Thread gstevo10
Hi Patch, Please enlighten me. What are the achieved benchmarks - both official and unofficial - for a Boomerang/Super Arrow, that you know about? I seem to recall that a couple of SA pilots were doing flights of 600k plus, many years ago, including at least one flight across Spencer Gulf. Do

Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial

2012-07-18 Thread Peter Brookman
I think Geoff Tremain did a flight in the Bordertown Boomerang in late 1960's early 70's , Bordertown- Burra return which is over 600 kms and was a record distance at that time. - Original Message - From: gstev...@bigpond.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.

Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial

2012-07-18 Thread Terry Neumann
On 18/07/2012 11:18 PM, Peter Brookman wrote: I think Geoff Tremain did a flight in the Bordertown Boomerang in late 1960's early 70's , Bordertown- Burra return which is over 600 kms and was a record distance at that time. If I recall correctly, this flight was on 15th February 1968. His

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 106, Issue 57

2012-07-18 Thread Ann Woolf
AG Sept 1968 page 6 - A 418 mile Boomerang by Geoff Tremain On 18/07/2012 11:18 PM, aus-soaring-requ...@lists.internode.on.net wrote: Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:03:24 +1000 From:gstev...@bigpond.com Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial To: Discussion of issues relating to

[Aus-soaring] Scattering ashes again...

2012-07-18 Thread John Mason
http://www.avweb.com/blogs/insider/AVWebInsider_scattering_206970-1.html JM ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring

Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial

2012-07-18 Thread Catherine Conway
I'm pretty sure Emilis did a flight of about 680km in the boomerang. I think he landed at Bordertown? Cath Sent from my iPhone On 19/07/2012, at 12:07 AM, Terry Neumann tfneum...@internode.on.net wrote: On 18/07/2012 11:18 PM, Peter Brookman wrote: I think Geoff Tremain did a flight in

Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial

2012-07-18 Thread Ruth Patching
Yeah he did, and he reminds me every time I see him. He gently sidles up beside me and very quietly whispers 418 Then just as quietly says miles not kilometres. Sometimes it's difficult to hate someone you admire so much. Patch - Original Message - From: Terry Neumann

Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial

2012-07-18 Thread Ruth Patching
Hi Stevo, We used the old AG year books and listed all the records done in wooden aircraft and drew our line there. The records tumbled when the Boomerang/Austria/Foka were replaced with Diamants, Libelles , Pheobus and Cirrus. They weren't just a step up, they were a leap. On some

[Aus-soaring] Club Class Records

2012-07-18 Thread Ann Woolf
Sue Martin flew 265 miles in a Ka6AG 1967 Nov p18 See also 320 milesw in a Boomerang AG 1969 Dec p49 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit:

Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records

2012-07-18 Thread Ruth Patching
The first 500k in Australia was flown by (I think) Stuart Dohnt in a Ka6 out of Waikerie. That sort of started the whole thing off. The Boomerang then came and very quickly more records were being flown that you could shake a stick at. Again, mostly from Waikerie, Jinks, Rowe knocking off

Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records: unofficial

2012-07-18 Thread Mark Newton
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 11:03:24PM +1000, gstev...@bigpond.com wrote: It is extremely unlikely that any current record for the type can be improved upon. In my opinion another good reason to put 99% of these ships in museums, before structural/glue or other failure kills somebody. We

[Aus-soaring] Glue Failures and white ants

2012-07-18 Thread Laurie Simpkins
Hi Patch, I agree with your comments on misconceptions regarding glue failure etc in the natural composite machines. Its unfortunate that unless you speak out these misconceptions ( structual and performance) are passed on to the newer generation of pilots as facts and it still amuses me

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glue Failures and white ants

2012-07-18 Thread Ruth Patching
Laurie, Great to hear from you, trust you are well and having fun. Some people just don't get it, and unfortunately they don't actually look at what we are doing in regard to maintaining the older fleet and actually therefore reseaching what happens with glues etc. The fleet here waits for

Re: [Aus-soaring] Club Class Records

2012-07-18 Thread Ann Woolf
If you wish to search AG indexes, you will find my complete Excel listing at http://www.waikerieglidingclub.com.au/cgi-bin/swish.cgi I also have all the Waikerie flights since 1971 and some of the info gleaned from newspapers, AG and WGC minutes and Newsletters from before 1971 Ann On

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 106, Issue 57

2012-07-18 Thread Ruth Patching
My apologies for my not remembering who flew the first 500, thankyou Anne for the lead, it was Stuart Cox in the Waikerie Ka6, Patch - Original Message - From: gstev...@bigpond.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent:

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 106, Issue 57

2012-07-18 Thread Christopher McDonnell
Was that in GQH the second prototype ES 60 which was at Bordertown at some time? From: gstev...@bigpond.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:13 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 106, Issue 57 Here is Geoff's story of

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 106, Issue 57

2012-07-18 Thread Terry Neumann
Thanks Gary (and Anne), It brings back lots of memories about the day itself.My most significant recollection of the conditions is that in many / most of the climbs, the altimeter just kept on winding up without hesitation - like it does on a winch launch. It was almost hypnotic. My

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 106, Issue 57

2012-07-18 Thread Peter Brookman
The Boomerang I flew at Bordertown in 1972 was QH. I assume they only ever had that one. - Original Message - From: Christopher McDonnell To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 106, Issue 57

2012-07-18 Thread Ruth Patching
Yep. - Original Message - From: Christopher McDonnell wommamuku...@bigpond.com To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Thursday, 19 July, 2012 2:13:35 PM (GMT+1000) Auto-Detected Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 106, Issue 57

2012-07-18 Thread Ruth Patching
Hi Brooky, We should be passing through around 3 tomorrow. Will drop in and stretch the legs if thats OK. See you then. Patch - Original Message - From: Peter Brookman brook...@activ8.net.au To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 106, Issue 57

2012-07-18 Thread Ruth Patching
What were you flying Terry? Patch - Original Message - From: Terry Neumann tfneum...@internode.on.net To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Thursday, 19 July, 2012 2:15:55 PM (GMT+1000) Auto-Detected Subject: Re:

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aus-soaring Digest, Vol 106, Issue 57

2012-07-18 Thread Terry Neumann
On 19/07/2012 2:30 PM, Ruth Patching wrote: What were you flying Terry? Patch ES Ka6 - VH-GNQ (Competition number 8 at that time) Lovely machine :-) tn ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change