Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit

2014-10-31 Thread Matthew Scutter
...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] *On Behalf Of *Paul Mander *Sent:* Thursday, 30 October 2014 1:54 PM *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit I think you’ve been a bit quick

Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit

2014-10-31 Thread Christopher McDonnell
Gee Matthew, there is no ‘like’ tab. From: Matthew Scutter Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 4:22 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit Official report from who exactly? On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Gary

Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit

2014-10-30 Thread Harry
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit I think you’ve been a bit quick to judge. You state that whilst “Jim chose to fly on”, two other pilots made quite routine outlandings 7km back on the track, implying a greater wisdom

Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit

2014-10-30 Thread Gary Stevenson
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit I think you’ve been a bit quick to judge. You state that whilst “Jim chose to fly on”, two other pilots made quite routine outlandings 7km back on the track, implying a greater wisdom

Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit

2014-10-30 Thread Derek Ruddock
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit Hi All, Sometimes pilots themselves are not the best judge of safety factors. Their own prejudices and desires can stand in the way of rational decisions. The Q’land Easter comps

Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit

2014-10-29 Thread Paul Mander
-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Gary Stevenson Sent: Tuesday, 28 October 2014 10:45 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit Michael Texler in his post of the evening of 28 Oct, finally “Got

Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit

2014-10-29 Thread DMcD
To some extent, there are two separate threads here. This post addresses one aspect only and that is finish rules which encourage high-speed low-level finishes, how ever much fun they are. But it’s not instructive, or fair, to make out that one was foolish where others were wise. Right. But are

Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules...

2014-10-28 Thread Ross McLean
Of Texler, Michael Sent: Tuesday, 28 October 2014 12:36 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules... I found the following sentence quite bizarre. Jim crashed within the 3 km finish circle, and therefore got both speed

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2014-10-28 Thread Texler, Michael
.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules... Hi Michael The Competition Rules state that if a glider crosses the finish line then it is regarded as a valid finish. Jim's glider crossed the finish line, ergo a valid finish. The rules also call for the Competition Safety Committee, a peer

Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules...

2014-10-28 Thread Peter Champness
-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Texler, Michael Sent: Tuesday, 28 October 2014 12:36 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules... I found the following sentence

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2014-10-28 Thread Tim Shirley
Hi all, Once again a disclaimer: I hold no relevant official position with the GFA. I do have considerable experience as a rulemaker, as a Contest Director, as a Scorer, and as a competition pilot. I speak only for myself. What follows is general clarification about competitions and

Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit

2014-10-28 Thread Gary Stevenson
of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules... Hi all, Once again a disclaimer: I hold no relevant official position with the GFA. I do have considerable experience as a rulemaker, as a Contest Director, as a Scorer, and as a competition pilot. I

Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit

2014-10-28 Thread Bruce Home Email
of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules... Hi all, Once again a disclaimer: I hold no relevant official position with the GFA. I do have considerable experience as a rulemaker, as a Contest Director, as a Scorer, and as a competition pilot

Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit

2014-10-28 Thread Ron
...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Tim Shirley Sent: Tuesday, 28 October 2014 8:39 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules... Hi all, Once again a disclaimer: I hold no relevant official position with the GFA. I do have

Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules - in the shit

2014-10-28 Thread John Welsh
relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules... Hi all, Once again a disclaimer: I hold no relevant official position with the GFA. I do have considerable experience as a rulemaker, as a Contest Director, as a Scorer, and as a competition pilot. I

[Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules...

2014-10-27 Thread Texler, Michael
I found the following sentence quite bizarre.  Jim crashed within the 3 km finish circle, and therefore got both speed and distance points for the day.  In accordance with the rules, Jim did not incur a points penalty for crashing. Surely competition rules should be in place to discourage

Re: [Aus-soaring] Bizarre Comp Rules...

2014-10-27 Thread Texler, Michael
The caveat should be in place that the crash was a result of your own poor decision making. Now what constitutes poor decision making is a matter of opinion. Surely competition rules should be in place to discourage crashing: i.e. you crash, you are out of the comp. You pack up and go home.