Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within Spread Mode (super+W)

2011-11-30 Thread SorinN
how do you define Unix-like in 2011? Not Ayatana or Gnome Shell in any way - I am not crazy - in both of them Usability is a joke. Usability is the most honted and killed animal in Ayatana and Gnome Shell. 2 new prisons for Linux users - they have no options to turn back - but the Unix / Linux

Re: [Ayatana] unity at the bottom

2011-11-30 Thread Omar B .
what do you mean it doesnt work? you just looked at the first screen and havent tried it. here are more screens: http://forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=171694.0 http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html but its still in dev of course. From:

Re: [Ayatana] unity at the bottom

2011-11-30 Thread Ian Santopietro
I mean that the panel is now disconnected from the rest of Unity. With the panel at the bottom, there's no reason for the panel to turn transparent. There's no reason for the Dash's window controls to be in the panel. Having the launcher on the left side is important, because without that, several

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within Spread Mode (super+W)

2011-11-30 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:39, SorinN nemes.so...@gmail.com wrote: FInally I have to say the result is a soup with no clear explanations for some resulting solutions - sorry to say that but this is it. be more optimistic: our biogenetical evolution began in a soup, and see us now!

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within Spread Mode (super+W)

2011-11-30 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:09, Chad M/ Germann cgerm...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is and you don't see it is your trying to cram a touch interface on a Desktop OS. i think human computer interaction has some basic rules which apply to all input devices that are pointer based. all pointers

Re: [Ayatana] Notifications in unity

2011-11-30 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Conscious User wrote on 29/11/11 17:54: Em 29-11-2011 12:54, Matthew Paul Thomas escreveu: ... Christian Rupp wrote on 15/11/11 16:06: ... First of all I would move the bubble closer to the panel That looks much nicer. Which reminds

Re: [Ayatana] unity at the bottom

2011-11-30 Thread Omar B .
Yes since this is unofficial, some elements are less tight but users wanting the launcher at the bottom are not picky and many dont even give any thought to the things you pointed out. Still i must credit the individual that managed to make this different setup usable, which has been asked for

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within Spread Mode (super+W)

2011-11-30 Thread Chad M. Germann
On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 18:55 +0100, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:09, Chad M/ Germann cgerm...@gmail.com wrote: The problem is and you don't see it is your trying to cram a touch interface on a Desktop OS. i think

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within Spread Mode (super+W)

2011-11-30 Thread Chad Linton
look at Unix interfaces from the past they have been not pretty but functional back in the good old days we had XWM and applications written different toolkits but they did not get in the users way and did not bog the system. When given the idea of 'small is beautiful' - I'd also say small

Re: [Ayatana] Notifications in unity

2011-11-30 Thread Conscious User
Which reminds me, shouldn't we stop pretending that synchronous and asynchronous notifications are similar enough to deserve being close? They are not, and the current approach causes more problems than solves. What problems does it cause? The most obvious one is the ugly gap when no

Re: [Ayatana] unity at the bottom

2011-11-30 Thread Sunil Singh Rana
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 18:05, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote: I mean that the panel is now disconnected from the rest of Unity. With the panel at the bottom, there's no reason for the panel to turn transparent. There's no reason for the Dash's window controls to be in the panel.

Re: [Ayatana] Closer Unity

2011-11-30 Thread Davor
Dana Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:18:33 +0100, Marco Biscaro marcobiscaro2...@gmail.com napisao/napisala je: Em 27-11-2011 10:19, Davor escreveu: Any position - Double center click - something very usefull like - opens (and closes) custom dash(keep reading) or launcher - Hold center click + left click

Re: [Ayatana] unity at the bottom

2011-11-30 Thread Ian Santopietro
So far consistency is concerned I never felt that the circular windows controls consistent with any part of unity. They're used to control the dash. You can't make the Dash full screen without them. They integrate the window controls into the panel for maximized windows because they integrate

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within Spread Mode (super+W)

2011-11-30 Thread nick rundy
I got no problem with a close button. But I really think being able to MIDDLE-CLICK the window icon to close it (like one can do with tabs in web browsers) would be a huge boon for usability. It's a simple thing to figure out too because every one is used to it from web browser use. From:

Re: [Ayatana] unity at the bottom

2011-11-30 Thread Sunil Singh Rana
Sorry I think I didn't make myself clear enough. About the circular button I meat the circular shape of the buttons. I think their design being circular is not consistent with the rest of the design of the unity. Which has more squarish throughout. I agree with the global menu bar for maximized

Re: [Ayatana] unity at the bottom

2011-11-30 Thread Ian Santopietro
But I never mentioned non-maximized windows at all. My argument pertained to the dash. On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 16:43, Sunil Singh Rana sunil.r...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry I think I didn't make myself clear enough. About the circular button I meat the circular shape of the buttons. I think their

Re: [Ayatana] new proposal for notifications / indicators

2011-11-30 Thread Roland Taylor
On 11/29/2011 05:56 PM, David wrote: Hi, i have a new proposal for notifications / indicators: actually we show per default: - messages (status/chat/twitter/mail/ubuntu_one) - battery - bluetooth - network - sound (volume/music) - clock - session switcher (switch

Re: [Ayatana] Notifications in unity

2011-11-30 Thread Roland Taylor
On 11/15/2011 01:57 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: No reason to discuss this. It is a core design value. Notifications are transient. Indicators are persistent. And it is not more intuitive that a bubble is clickable than it not being clickable. For instance, these types of notifications have

Re: [Ayatana] unity at the bottom

2011-11-30 Thread Roland Taylor
On 11/29/2011 02:54 PM, Chad M/ Germann wrote: On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 18:31 +0100, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: On 11/29/2011 05:55 PM, Christian Rupp wrote: I know it was discussed several times, but a plug-in finally got it working:

Re: [Ayatana-dev] Unity-2D and Qt5

2011-11-30 Thread TreviƱo
Il 29 novembre 2011 17:36, a.gra...@gmail.com a.gra...@gmail.com ha scritto: If I try to build Unity-2D using this version of Qt, I get the following error: http://pastebin.com/M0ZLyyNE While I get no problem using the default 4.7.x Qt version. It just seems to miss some Xlib inclusion... --