Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread Gordon Joly
At 19:30 +0100 18/4/07, Tom Loosemore wrote: On 18/04/07, Gordon Joly mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 16:39 +0100 18/4/07, Ian Forrester wrote: Hi All, Outside of the framework debate... The BBC Archive trial is getting closer to opening its doors. Exclusively I can now

Re: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread Richard Hyett
On 19/04/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the one we want you all signed up too. http://hackday.org The invitation to the Google Developers Day was a little bit more informative, and they were 'thrilled' I wanted to come. The hackday page stresses that my credentials will be

RE: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread Andrew Bowden
Do you think it's a generation gap thing? Or, like that recent article I read on DigitalSpy about the results of the DAB quality survey, people who don't vocalise their concern about lowering quality just don't fully understand what a good quality stream should look / sound like?

Re: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Hey we¹d be thrilled if you¹d come too! It¹s going to be an absolute blast. The Yahoo! One in the states last year was really successful and I think that we can do better. The cool thing this year is that it¹s Yahoo! and the BBC, there¹s going to be so much going on ­ I was up at Alexandra Palace

Re: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread Tom Coates
Hey Richard, The language on the site is a bit formal, I know, but really it's with the best of motives. We want to make sure that people who can build and make things will be able to come and that they won't be squeezed out by a bunch of people looking to boost their Linked In profiles.

Re: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Lol! I think you might be a bit old school ;-) m On 19/4/07 11:45, oliver wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've signed up, but know whos - am I l33t geek enough :) ? On 4/19/07, gareth rushgrove [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We'll I've signed up. I'm now just hoping I

RE: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread Ian Forrester
Anyone on the backstage list must be l33t enough ;) Ian Forrester Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC4 B4, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7RJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 02080083965 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread Dave Cross
Ian Forrester wrote: Anyone on the backstage list must be l33t enough ;) Can we hold you to that? Dave... - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archives/2005/01/mailing_list.html. Unofficial list archive:

Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread Kirk Northrop
Andrew Bowden wrote: I'm far better on visual artifacts I must say. Interestingly though a colleague of mine from BBC News told me that surveys have shown people are far more likely to put up with a dodgy video picture if the sound is clean and crisp. Yes, it's well known (and proved) that

Re: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread Richard Hyett
From Wikipedia Leet or Leetspeak (1337 or 13375p34k) is a writing system used primarily on the Internet, but nowadays also in most online video games as well,[1] which uses various combinations of alphanumerics to replace proper letters. I confess I had to look it up, I think I'd better go and

Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread Tim Cowlishaw
On 4/19/07, Kirk Northrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, it's well known (and proved) that you can do what you want with the picture if the sound is OK. True but a slight exaggeration - A certain level of video quality still qualifies as an acceptable threshold, IMO. In addition,

Re: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread Tim Cowlishaw
On 4/19/07, oliver wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've signed up, but know whos - am I l33t geek enough :) ? ha! my thoughts exactly are design-y CSS / HTML -type people welcome at these sort of events? If not, I'll have to finish working my way through 'Thinking in Java' by June... or

Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread Kirk Northrop
Tim Cowlishaw wrote: True but a slight exaggeration - A certain level of video quality still qualifies as an acceptable threshold, IMO. In addition, crystal clear sound and crystal clear vision are both pretty useless if they're not in sync. Indeed. But as long as the glitches are small

RE: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread Kim Plowright
/me guesses, somehow, that the denizens of this list are somewhat demographically homogeneous. I got kicked off after about 60% when I said I was male. hhm. Oh well, perhaps 35-44 age bracket is already full. - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please

Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread Richard P Edwards
No way Kim, I'm NOT normal. ;-) On 19 Apr 2007, at 13:28, Kim Plowright wrote: /me guesses, somehow, that the denizens of this list are somewhat demographically homogeneous. I got kicked off after about 60% when I said I was male. hhm. Oh well, perhaps 35-44 age bracket is

Re: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread James Darling
I've put my name down, my interpretation is anyone's welcome as long as you are interested in, and capable of understanding, the list of previous hacks and ideas at http://developer.yahoo.net/hackday, so that we don't get what yesterday's FOWD conference was like, marketing types proudly

Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread Scot McSweeney-Roberts
James Cox wrote: I hope that if this gets past the various layers of governance and gets budget to become a 'real' project, some effort into hooking up into bittorrent (I'm sure Bram could come up with some trickery to have certified users (ie, license fee payers ;)) only which would

Re: [backstage] Google Developer Day

2007-04-19 Thread John
i'm there, cool! On 16/04/07, Tom Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've sent an email to the Developer Day address asking if that thank you for your RSVP email means that I've been accepted. There's only a few cheap train tickets left, but I'd like to make sure I'm confirmed before booking! --

Re: [backstage] OS choice

2007-04-19 Thread John
on a macbook here, need to take it back though, has the grime on the pad issue On 10/04/07, Kirk Northrop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason Cartwright wrote: I've recently 'switched' [1] (damn you Apple marketing dept!) from an XP desktop to a Macbook as my main computer. Its been almost

RE: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread Kim Plowright
Well - I ruled myself out of the running for this as frankly, I'm great at drawing, cooking, sewing and making stuff (among other ladylike pursuits), but rubbish at coding and electrickery. Tom C left a comment suggesting I find a group of people to team up with. So if anyone wants a

Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread James Cox
On 19 Apr 2007, at 14:39, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: James Cox wrote: I hope that if this gets past the various layers of governance and gets budget to become a 'real' project, some effort into hooking up into bittorrent (I'm sure Bram could come up with some trickery to have

Re: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread James Cox
Kim - sure thing! the beauty of hack days is to make stuff - linking tech with electronics and you know, sewing. :) besides, i've got a stack of shirts. ;p - james On 19 Apr 2007, at 15:13, Kim Plowright wrote: Well - I ruled myself out of the running for this as frankly, I'm great

Re: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread Ben Hall
Sounds like a great event. Can any language/technology be used? RoR, Java, C#? Is all the hacking done on the weekend? Or do people do prep before hand? When do we find out if we have been accept/invited? Ben On 19/04/07, James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kim - sure thing! the beauty of

Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread Paul Jefferson
Do you know when we will hear if we are in or not? (Or is the fact that I've not heard mean I'm not in?) Paul (Long Time Lurker) On 19/04/07, James Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19 Apr 2007, at 14:39, Scot McSweeney-Roberts wrote: James Cox wrote: I hope that if this gets past the

Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread Andy
On 19/04/07, Scot McSweeney-Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even with content from the BBC, I pay the licence fee so why should I pay in bandwidth as well? Because Peer to Peer is the only current scalable way of distributing content. Server to client just isn't scalable enough. Server to

Re: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread cisnky
Actionscript ? On 4/19/07, Ben Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like a great event. Can any language/technology be used? RoR, Java, C#? Is all the hacking done on the weekend? Or do people do prep before hand? When do we find out if we have been accept/invited? Ben On 19/04/07, James

Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread Mutt Baskerville
Slightly Off Topic, as you mentioned Ubuntu ISOs, nice to see that the BBC is not covering this on it's technology news, it gave an awful lot of press to Vista. They even gave coverage to some World of Warcraft expansion pack! Then again, I've never agreed with them on their definition of

Re: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread James Cox
I'd love to see some cool stuff hacked with as/apollo/flex/etc. a sneaking suspicion tells me that we have all the components to step away from the constrictions of the browser (specifically, dealing with IE) and instead run platforms which are just that little bit easier i was

Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread James Cox
On 19 Apr 2007, at 16:07, Mutt Baskerville wrote: Slightly Off Topic, as you mentioned Ubuntu ISOs, nice to see that the BBC is not covering this on it's technology news, it gave an awful lot of press to Vista. They even gave coverage to some World of Warcraft expansion pack! Then

RE: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread Christopher Woods
Indeed, it's something I as a music tech student have both seen myself and have been told by tutors - and it makes sense. I remember putting up with dodgy projections in cinemas because the sound was alright, but the one time I was watching one of the Pirates films and the centre speaker started

Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread Frank Wales
Mutt Baskerville wrote: Slightly Off Topic, as you mentioned Ubuntu ISOs, nice to see that the BBC is not covering this on it's technology news, it gave an awful lot of press to Vista. They even gave coverage to some World of Warcraft expansion pack! Then again, I've never agreed with them on

RE: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread Andrew Bowden
Slightly Off Topic, as you mentioned Ubuntu ISOs, nice to see that the BBC is not covering this on it's technology news, it gave an awful lot of press to Vista. The BBC News Technology section is rather more mainstream focused - it's not The Register. And I think that's reflected in the

Re: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Anything you want - anything at all :-) Once you know you've been accepted you can do as much prep as you like - it's all good. m On 19/4/07 15:48, Ben Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like a great event. Can any language/technology be used? RoR, Java, C#? Is all the hacking done on

Re: [backstage] BBC Archive trial

2007-04-19 Thread Matthew Cashmore
It¹ll take a few weeks I would imagine before you¹ll hear much ­ the list is getting blasted at the moment as you¹d expect! I¹ll post up more information as I know it. m On 19/4/07 15:53, Paul Jefferson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know when we will hear if we are in or not? (Or is the

RE: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread Ian Forrester
I think there will be a small but deadly group of XSL developers working together on some killer web applications. Ian Forrester Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC4 B4, Media Village, 201 Wood Lane, London W12 7RJ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 02080083965

Re: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Wonder who¹ll be working on that then? ;-) On 19/4/07 16:44, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there will be a small but deadly group of XSL developers working together on some killer web applications. Ian Forrester Senior Producer, BBC Backstage BC4 B4, Media Village, 201

Re: [backstage] Google Developer Day

2007-04-19 Thread gareth rushgrove
Me too. Mmmm. Now need to decide whether to wear the backstage Tshirt (easily spotted by others on the list) or the Yahoo Tshirt (just for giggles) G On 19/04/07, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm there, cool! On 16/04/07, Tom Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've sent an email to the

RE: [backstage] Google Developer Day

2007-04-19 Thread Brendan Quinn
Maybe you could ask Kim to use her l33t s3w1ng sk1llz to mash the two t-shirts together, 2.0 stylee?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gareth rushgrove Sent: 19 April 2007 17:16 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] Google

Re: [backstage] Google Developer Day

2007-04-19 Thread James Cox
clearly, both On 19 Apr 2007, at 17:16, gareth rushgrove wrote: Me too. Mmmm. Now need to decide whether to wear the backstage Tshirt (easily spotted by others on the list) or the Yahoo Tshirt (just for giggles) G On 19/04/07, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm there, cool! On 16/04/07,

Re: [backstage] Google Developer Day

2007-04-19 Thread Matthew Cashmore
I'll send you more stuff if you wear ours!? ;-) m On 19/4/07 17:16, gareth rushgrove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me too. Mmmm. Now need to decide whether to wear the backstage Tshirt (easily spotted by others on the list) or the Yahoo Tshirt (just for giggles) G On 19/04/07, John

Re: [backstage] Hack day in London

2007-04-19 Thread Nic James Ferrier
Tom Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 4/19/07, Ian Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there will be a small but deadly group of XSL developers working together on some killer web applications. Absolutely deadly. I'm bringing the revolver. Ian, you bring candlesticks, and I'll ask