RE: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-15 Thread Darren Stephens
Just a few thoughts (some of which may be emanating from my posterior, but no matter): From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 5:38 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-15 Thread Fearghas McKay
On 15 Apr 2008, at 12:50, Brian Butterworth wrote: I'm really suprised that no-one actually read what I wrote. We do - it is just that your solution does not solve the cost issues of the second last last mile. The cost of data transport is not from the BBC to the ISP NOC/Data Centre

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-15 Thread Jeremy James
Brian Butterworth wrote: * ISPs provide rack space for BBC servers inside their network * Who pays for servers? * Who maintains servers? ISP? Siemens? * Who pays for power usage? * ISPs provide list of IP addresses to directed to said servers * How is this done? Manually? How many ISPs? Or as

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-15 Thread Jason Cartwright
Isn't this what Akamai are doing for the iPlayer content already? Doesn't get the content close enough to the consumer to solve the issues ISPs apparently have. J On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to say that I am very impressed with Ashly

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-15 Thread Werner Ramaekers
What Brian explained is how the dutch public broadcast organization is collaborating with 8 ISP's to ensure the best service for catch-up tv over the internet (uitzendiggemist.nl) There is an article in dutch that explains this collaboration : http://www.emerce.nl/nieuws.jsp?id=2103122 --

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-15 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 15/04/2008, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15/04/2008, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't this what Akamai are doing for the iPlayer content already? Yes Doesn't get the content close enough to the consumer to solve the issues ISPs apparently have. No -

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-15 Thread Brian Butterworth
Dutch providers and tv-zenders start this autumn with a new cooperation for the distribution of video by means of Internet. That is necessary because of the fast increase of online video. In the cooperation bond around the Internet button point

RE: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-15 Thread Gareth Davis
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: 15 April 2008 17:14 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution You are saying that the capacity on each

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-15 Thread Peter Bowyer
On 15/04/2008, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15/04/2008, Peter Bowyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15/04/2008, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't this what Akamai are doing for the iPlayer content already? Yes Doesn't get the content close enough

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-15 Thread Brian Butterworth
PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian Butterworth *Sent:* 15 April 2008 17:14 *To:* backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk *Subject:* Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution You are saying that the capacity on each individual ADSL line here is the problem? I really don't see

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-14 Thread Paul Doyle
BBC chief quits to launch online service http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/202eab38-09ae-11dd-81bf-779fd2ac.html Ashley Highfield, the BBC's director of future media and technology, is leaving the corporation to launch a joint online video platform for the BBC, ITV and Channel 4 which the

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-14 Thread Andy
Brian Butterworth wrote: 1. so the great evil here is probably the BT wholesale provision which seems to be behaving somewhat monopolisticly, which is a tendency that I know BT has. Abuse of dominant position is prohibited under Section 18 of the Competition Act 1998[1]. If BT are behaving

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-14 Thread Steve Jolly
Andy wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: 1. so the great evil here is probably the BT wholesale provision which seems to be behaving somewhat monopolisticly, which is a tendency that I know BT has. Abuse of dominant position is prohibited under Section 18 of the Competition Act 1998[1]. If BT are

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-14 Thread Peter Bowyer
On 14/04/2008, Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: 1. so the great evil here is probably the BT wholesale provision which seems to be behaving somewhat monopolisticly, which is a tendency that I know BT has. Abuse of dominant position is

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-14 Thread Frank Wales
Mr I Forrester wrote: Virgin Media CEO Says Net Neutrality is “A Load of Bollocks” The new CEO of Virgin Media is putting his cards on the table early, branding net neutrality “a load of bollocks” and claiming he’s already doing deals to deliver some people’s content faster than others. If

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-14 Thread Brian Butterworth
Andy, It would be lovely if you read my email to the end first! On 14/04/2008, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian Butterworth wrote: 1. so the great evil here is probably the BT wholesale provision which seems to be behaving somewhat monopolisticly, which is a tendency that I know BT

Re: [backstage] iPlayer and the ISPs - a solution

2008-04-14 Thread Brian Butterworth
On 14/04/2008, Paul Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BBC chief quits to launch online service http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/202eab38-09ae-11dd-81bf-779fd2ac.html Ashley Highfield, the BBC's director of future media and technology, is leaving the corporation to launch a joint online video