RE: [backstage] Flash required?

2007-03-06 Thread Andrew Bowden
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think it's amusing when I see people bemoan the use of Flash for things that sure, can be done in AJAX etc. I would recommend never using Flash. By using Flash the BBC is forcing users to enter into a legal contract with a third party, just to use the BBC's

RE: [backstage] Flash required?

2007-03-06 Thread Andrew Bowden
Flash is binary code which executes directly on my CPU and has access to all the files at my privilege level (i.e. ALL my personal files). Which part of this don't you understand? It is not that a flash program on a website could be a threat, it's that the Flash Player itself could pose

RE: [backstage] Flash required?

2007-03-06 Thread Andrew Bowden
Back when I used to use Windows I had real security issues with Real Player. It looked an awful lot like a Trojan to me. Most things on Windows look like trojans to me. The fact that Real looked bad for you on windows doesn't make it bad for me on GNU/Linux or Sol, or whatever

RE: [backstage] Flash required?

2007-03-06 Thread Andrew Bowden
and here's a reason for the BBC's ogg trials ceasing (which might not be true, I don't know, it's not an offical source) http://lists.gllug.org.uk/pipermail/gllug/2004-January/041215.html I remember listening to the launch day of BBC 6music via Ogg at my desk in Bush House :) Ah, happy

RE: [backstage] Flash required?

2007-03-06 Thread Jason Cartwright
This is all my personal opinion. Or has the BBC examined it's source code and is it willing to guarantee that this software is free from any malicious code? For every anti-Flash zealot yelling Flash isn't Free Software, there are millions of people using flash without any problems at all. Try

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

2007-03-06 Thread Richard Lockwood
Andy, If you loathe the BBC's online content, policy and delivery methods as much as you appear to, what are you doing on a list which (in theory) is dealing with repurposing and mashing up content, specifically BBC content? Whatever you (and various others) may think, this isn't the Repeatedly

RE: [backstage] Flash required?

2007-03-06 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 10:06 +, Jason Cartwright wrote: For every anti-Flash zealot yelling Flash isn't Free Software, there are millions of people using flash without any problems at all. Because Flash isn't Free Software, I cannot use it. Not through zealotry or paranoia, but because it

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

2007-03-06 Thread Scot McSweeney-Roberts
Jason Cartwright wrote: Why isn't the BBC spending my money wisely by making my child a flash game? Because it makes Mike TechCrunch Arrington angry? We can't have that. Scot - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

2007-03-06 Thread Andy
On 06/03/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're worried about threats to your computer, don't turn it on. So you are saying that if I use my PC, I should not bother securing it at all? And hey, one was even found in the email service you're using...

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

2007-03-06 Thread vijay chopra
On 06/03/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And that's before you've got an operating system installed - even Linux isn't without its legalities (GPL etal) Actually, you can use GPL'd software without agreeing to the GPL; however as the GPL gives you Certain rights, the software

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

2007-03-06 Thread John Wesley
On 06/03/07, David Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because Flash isn't Free Software, I cannot use it. Not through zealotry or paranoia, but because it just doesn't exist for the computer I'm sitting in front of right now (Linux/PPC64) or my laptop (Linux/PPC). -- dwmw2 Have you tried

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

2007-03-06 Thread Richard Lockwood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bit of trust is needed don't you think? Is it really in Adobe's interest to put malicious code in the flash plug-in? Are you joking? People can create a huge amount of revenue by doing just that. Do youever get a spam email? The majority of that comes from boxes

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

2007-03-06 Thread Andy
On 06/03/07, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are suggesting that Adobe may knowingly put code in their apps to send spam? Or are you suggesting that Adobe may knowingly put code in their apps to let other people do that? Both are ridiculous. Why is that ridiculous? I also do not

[backstage] Starting your Tech Biz: Bootstrapping

2007-03-06 Thread Raj Anand
Hi Guys, I recently posted a blog about: Starting your Tech Biz: Bootstrappinghttp://kwiqq.com/blog/?p=25. It might be interesting for someone starting a Tech Business. I would love to hear your comments/thoughts on it (if possible on the blog :) ). Cheers, Raj -- Raj Anand Technical

RE: [backstage] Flash required?

2007-03-06 Thread Andrew Bowden
If you are concerned, maybe you should ask Real? Tiny problem there, if I am suspecting Real's code what good is asking them? Well, it might make them realise that people are onto them and that they shouldn't do it :) The BBC website uses a few different technologies but yes, Solaris

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

2007-03-06 Thread Andy Leighton
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 11:08:06AM +, Andy wrote: On 06/03/07, Andrew Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And that's before you've got an operating system installed - even Linux isn't without its legalities (GPL etal) GPL only applies if I copy the software. It is not a EULA, it is not a

Re: [backstage] Flash required?

2007-03-06 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 14:23 +, Andy Leighton wrote: A think a lot of the problem is historical. When first used there wasn't the choice we have today. I would imagine it would be quite a hard sell to get the suits to agree to replace RealAudio with OGG. That isn't to say someone

WEB API (was Re: [backstage] Noise and Signal)

2007-03-06 Thread Andy Leighton
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 07:14:58PM -, Ian Forrester wrote: So I would like to remind people that the Backstage list is still a good place to talk shop about the industry, trends, the bbc and technologies. But were also a place for development and trying out some of the things discussed.