Re: [BangPypers] [X-Post] PythonExpress challenges
> It will at max prove that student was in a place for few hours We can always call it "Certificate of Participation" (Which is what you are suggesting, I think) Is there a "mini test" at the end of the workshop ? If yes, they certificate can be given only to those who "pass" (assuming the test is neither too easy, nor too hard) -Mandar ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [X-Post] PythonExpress challenges
On Saturday 05 August 2017 02:07 PM, vijay kumar wrote: > Hi All, > As we discussed couple of months ago[0], PythonExpress project requires > funding to take care of certain things. > > a) Keeping the tutor motivated and encouraged to conduct multiple workshops > seems to be tough. Even though we take care of travel and accommodation > with or without the help of colleges, we find short of tutors some times. > IMO, we should provide a small token amount to tutors to show appreciation. > > b) we should think of an option to provide college students certificates as > a workshop without certificates is not welcomed as much by all colleges and > students. > I think that this can be resolved in 2 ways. > 1. Request college to pay us if they need certificates - hard copy. > 2. Generate soft copies of certificate (PDF) and share it with students > once college uploads the student details. > > Also, > c) Conducting Intermediate level workshop for the students who has taken > the the beginners level since we are not able to find tutors. Vijay, What we have in India is a lack of mentors. This is no just with PythonExpress but with any similar project providing post-collegiate education free or at a minimal cost. There is the need for a system that will train the trainers, teach the tutors. PythonExpress should think of conducting intermediate level workshops with a view of teaching the tutors, training the trainers. For this a certification can be introduced and a very nominal fee charged to take care of the expenses. This model will work out better in a long time frame since are replenishing the supply side (provider side) of the equation. The demand side will always be there and growing. Experienced people can be asked to give such workshops. If we do this, I will be glad to volunteer. > > Kindly let us know your thoughts on the same. > > > [0] : http://lists.pssi.org.in/pipermail/pythonexpress/2017- > April/000182.html > > > > -- Regards, --Anand Software Architect/Consultant anandpil...@letterboxes.org http://twitter.com/skeptichacker ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] [X-Post] PythonExpress challenges
On 05/08/17, vijay kumar wrote: > Hi All, > As we discussed couple of months ago[0], PythonExpress project requires > funding to take care of certain things. > > a) Keeping the tutor motivated and encouraged to conduct multiple workshops > seems to be tough. Even though we take care of travel and accommodation > with or without the help of colleges, we find short of tutors some times. > IMO, we should provide a small token amount to tutors to show appreciation. > This is generally a good idea. But, it also depends on the number of requests, amount, and total funding available. > b) we should think of an option to provide college students certificates as > a workshop without certificates is not welcomed as much by all colleges and > students. > I think that this can be resolved in 2 ways. > 1. Request college to pay us if they need certificates - hard copy. > 2. Generate soft copies of certificate (PDF) and share it with students > once college uploads the student details. Giving out certificates is a double edged sword. One way, it will get us a lot more participations in the initial round of workshops in the colleges every year. In the other way, that certification will not have any value for job or for any company. It will at max prove that student was in a place for few hours (or that can also be manipulated by the person entering data from the college). > > Also, > c) Conducting Intermediate level workshop for the students who has taken > the the beginners level since we are not able to find tutors. This is a good idea. Otherwise we will have a lot of people who knows the syntax of the language, and used it for a few hours in their life time. Btw, is there any update on the syllabus work for the workshops? Kushal -- Fedora Cloud Engineer CPython Core Developer https://kushaldas.in https://dgplug.org ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
