[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: SLW typesets

2020-01-15 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Now for sale at "Le Luth Doré". :-( Jean-Marie Le 15/01/2020 à 19:00, Roman Turovsky a écrit : Dear collective wisdom, What ever happened to the J.D.Forget's Weiss typesets? RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 5 of the 6 Dresden Weiss volumes are online now

2018-11-10 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Thank you for the heads up, Markus ! All the best, Jean-Marie -- >Dear friends, >today I found out, that 5 of the 6 Dresden volumes are online now. > >http://digital.slub-dresden.de/werkansicht/dlf/276092 >http://digital.slub-dresden.de/werkansicht/dlf/92747

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: London Weiss manuscript is online

2018-06-20 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
same here "error retrieving pdf"... :-( Jean-Marie -- > I get "error retrieving pdf" :( > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Markus Lutz <[1]mar...@gmlutz.de> > wrote: > > Dear Matthew, did that work for you? > Tim and also me tested it, and it didn't work. > But

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2018-02-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
beautiful piece anyway ! All the best, Jean-Marie -- >Dear Jean-Marie, >Let me be the first, hoping that your PC opens Fronimo files. >Mathias > > > >-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >Von: Jean-Marie Poirier [mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr] >Gese

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2018-02-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
"SORRY FOR THE TYPO" :-D -- >ooops ! Sorry fothe typo : "except the odd mistake"... >Classical flat tuning here A D g b flat d f, supposing a lute in A... > >Jean-Marie > > >-- > >>Sorry Mathias, but except the opddmistake here and there, I don't see >>anything

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2018-02-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
ooops ! Sorry fothe typo : "except the odd mistake"... Classical flat tuning here A D g b flat d f, supposing a lute in A... Jean-Marie -- >Sorry Mathias, but except the opddmistake here and there, I don't see anything >strange about the 3rd course in this piece which I love and

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2018-02-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Sorry Mathias, but except the opddmistake here and there, I don't see anything strange about the 3rd course in this piece which I love and play regularly. It sure could be a transcription from the old tuning. When I have the time, I will try to transcribe it back to old tuning ;-) ! Just to

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2017-12-10 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
onderful pieces in d minor, which I love and play, but I simply want to question the traditional presentation of Gaultier as a rather monolithic monument of the baroque tuning, which for me he is not ! I think his contribution was much more complex and deep than it actually appears... Best wishes,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2017-12-10 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
stions as open questions, if there are no very string reasons to attribute a piece to a certain Gaultier. 2. Jean-Marie Poirier suggested in his „answer" to G.C.'s question „So did Denis could pass on works of Ennemond as being his own and not only transcribing them fro

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2017-12-10 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
is far from having delivered all its secrets ! Best wishes to all, Jean-Marie Poirier -- > Hi, > > Â > > I don't think one can accuse Denis of having "hijacked" or "passed on > works by Ennemond as his own". On the contrary

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2017-12-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
:-D !!! > Le 2 déc. 2017 à 20:40, G. C. a écrit : > > So did Denis pass on works of Ennemond as being his own, and not only > transcribing them from vieil tone and getting huge credit from D. A. > Smith 40 years ago for that? > > -- > > > To get on or off this

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

2017-12-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
He sure does even though he sort of hijacked a good part of his older cousin’s output ;-) ! Jean-Marie > Le 2 déc. 2017 à 20:19, G. C. a écrit : > > When looking again at D.A. Smith's Weiss thesis of 1977, I look at the > following passage: "Weiss's work unquestionably

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Ballard 1623

2017-03-15 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
s title-page. Would anyone on this list know where precisely this precious document is preserved ? Thank you for your feedback anyway ! Best wishes to all, Jean-Marie Poirier To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: F-Pcnrs Ms. sans cote

2017-03-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
dsnouveaux.ch/de/Abhandlung/Schreiber/Schreiber.html > >Andreas > >Am 09.03.2017 um 10:37 schrieb Jean-Marie Poirier <jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr>: > >> Interesting Ernst ! >> Two (very small) remarks nonetheless : there is no point calling Merville >> "Nicolo"

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: F-Pcnrs Ms. sans cote

2017-03-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Interesting Ernst ! Two (very small) remarks nonetheless : there is no point calling Merville "Nicolo" (or is it a typo ?) as he was a Parisian born and such a typical French lutenist, especially as you call him properly "Nicolas" a little further down in your text. The second point is about

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: "Courante" Performance broadcast live on Facebook Live

2016-04-21 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Good luck, Ed ! Enjoy yourselves with this fine repertoire ;-) ! Best wishes, Jean-Marie -- > This Saturday, April 23, Edward Martin and Thomas Walker will be > performing the program from their duet recording of baroque lute duets > "Courante" at the Sacred Heart Music

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Le bout de lan de Mr. Gautier

2015-07-30 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
A bout de l'an was a traditional religious service in memory of a deceased person, taking place one year after his death. So this Allemande was probably a posthumous tribute to Gaultier one year after his burial. All the best, Jean-Marie -- Dear All, I’m wondering about the

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Le bout de lan de Mr. Gautier

2015-07-30 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Exactly Stewart. It is the end of a year of mourning actually. Bout de l'an was a religious service for the anniversary of someone's demise. In the dictionary by Nicot, Thresor de la langue française (1606), we find this definition : Faire le bout de l'an, ou l'anniversaire, Feralia vel

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: request...

2015-07-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
I got it almost imediately, so forget this request ! Thank you Susanne ;-) and all, All the Best, Jean-Marie -- Dear collective wisdom, Would there be a charitable soul among you having an access to JSTOR and who would accept to download and send me [ private email :

[BAROQUE-LUTE] request...

2015-07-09 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Dear collective wisdom, Would there be a charitable soul among you having an access to JSTOR and who would accept to download and send me [ private email : jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr ] the following article : Matthew Locke and the Consort Suite Christopher D. S. Field Music Letters Vol. 51, No. 1

[BAROQUE-LUTE] request...

2014-04-23 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
, xv (1982), 52–83 Thank you very much to all in advance for your help. All the best, Jean-Marie Poirier jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: New UR Research Publications [Lute MS Vallet psalms]

2013-08-22 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
). It was never in the Prussian State Library (*pace* Boetticher). Arthur - Original Message - From: Jean-Marie Poirier [1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr To: Arthur Ness [2]arthurjn...@verizon.net Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Preludes by Vieux Gaultier ???

2012-11-15 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
doesn't have any... If you know of the existence of such pieces, could you cite the sources where they may be found, please? Thank you in advance for your unremitting generous help, All the best, Jean-Marie Poirier To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Preludes by Vieux Gaultier ???

2012-11-15 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Wikla wrote: Dear Jean-Marie, in GB-Ob ms. G.617 there seems to be one Prelude de Gautier de P, p. 120-121, in A minor. Peter S's pages say it is V. Gaultier. Isn't the P for Paris? All the best, Arto On 15/11/12 12:44, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: Thank you Andreas, Bernd and Peter

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Preludes by Vieux Gaultier ???

2012-11-14 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
generous help, All the best, Jean-Marie Poirier To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Tombeau de gogo

2012-05-05 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
I think I remember reading somewhere that Gogo was the name of a parrot or some sort of exotic bird, some aristoctrat's pet, and this Tombeau was written in honour of this pet... I found the reference, in Monique Rollin's introduction to Mouton Complete Works for the CNRS Editions : This

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Sharp keys seem to work well in d-minor tuned lute...

2012-01-07 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
A very good read indeed ! Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 07-01-2012, 11:03:41 == Read Lindley's book on lute temperaments if you don't believe me. MH --- On Fri, 6/1/12, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote: From: howard posner

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Sharp keys seem to work well in d-minor tuned lute...

2012-01-06 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
, equal or not ! Jean-Marie Poirier = == En réponse au message du 06-01-2012, 17:38:43 == On Jan 6, 2012, at 1:57 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Equal temperament was used on lutes from the 16th century onwards Except by Gerle (1532) And the Dowlands (1610

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Sharp keys seem to work well in d-minor tuned lute...

2012-01-06 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
which will, anyway, remain an anti-user friendly way of coping with music in general. I trust my ears more than my Korg tuner :-) My humble opinion ;-) ! Best wishes, Jean-Marie Jean-Marie Poirier = == En réponse au message du 06-01-2012, 19:46:22

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Sharp keys seem to work well in d-minor tuned lute...

2012-01-06 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Isn't that evocative of the Well-tempered keyboard... JM There is another important passage in the Jean Denis's text, well woth quoting. I will try a translation : After hearing a harpsichord tuned in equal temperament Denis asks why they use this temperament which he judges bad : Being in

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Sharp keys seem to work well in d-minor tuned lute...

2012-01-06 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
that those using the tastini do not know much about theory, they just want to hear 'marvels'.] Another plea for equality in other words... Jean-Marie Poirier == En réponse au message du 06-01-2012, 21:48:18 == On Jan 6, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: Although Denis does

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Sharp keys seem to work well in d-minor tuned lute...

2012-01-06 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
, Lutes, Viols and Temperaments, Cambridge University Press, 1984) I like the isea of playing a charlatan of music :-). Don't you ? Best, Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 06-01-2012, 22:39:12 == 2012/1/6 Jean-Marie Poirier jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr: I

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392

2011-12-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
baroque lutes of the type that we mostly use to play solos. Bill From: Jean-Marie Poirier jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, 30 November 2011, 18:27 Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: A=392 What about

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Bouvier

2011-08-22 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Wouldn't Hautman be a misspelling for Hotman the well-known viol and lute player from mid 17th century represented in the Saizenay ms and in the Goess ms as well ? Best, Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 22-08-2011, 09:17:36 == There are pieces by

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Top luthiers of 11-courser?

2011-05-25 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
My 11 course Warwick Frei by David Van Edwards is a Rolls Royce indeed ! But David seems to be slowing down his production and his waiting list is now quite long (4 or 5 years). Of course if you have a lot of money in the bank there is Paul Thomson or Michael Lowe... Good luck to you Arto !

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Ms. Lei. II 6 14 ?

2011-03-04 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
I agree 200 percent Bernd ;-) Jean-Marie = == En réponse au message du 04-03-2011, 11:58:11 == I find that we all should get the RISM for free from the UN Lute High Commissioner. B To get on or off this list see list information at

[BAROQUE-LUTE] French Baroque Lute Music from 1650-1700

2010-12-20 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
and season's greetings to all ! Jean-Marie Poirier To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Lute Music from 1650-1700

2010-12-18 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
With a little delay, time to get the book, I must confess I am very disappointed. This little book is much too expensive for what it is... I expected something more professional, in the line of works by Ledbetter or Rave (not even quoted in the bibliography...), but it is in fact only a short