[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Biechteler

2016-08-30 Thread AJN 
   The thread is titled "Biechteler."  Which piece(s) listed below are by
   B.? And do you know who he is?   Pichler?


   On 08/30/16, Fischer BE (Aon)<[1]fischer...@aon.at> wrote:

   Dear Friends,
   Some years ago I was reading through the original tabulature manuscript
   MS Egerton 2046 ("Jane Pickering Lute Book") in the British Library,
   London. This manuscript is know as one of the finest sources of the
   English lute repertory, because it contains more than 80 renaissance
   lute pieces from composers such as Dowland, Rosseter, Bacheler and
   Johnson.
   However, the great surprise at least for me was that in the middle of
   the book varying writers have added - partially in an
   upside-down-orientation in the manuscript - early baroque lute music
   from French and English composers. To make it even more attractive,
   these pieces in French Tabulature are for lutes in various Accords
   Nouveaux tunings. To play these pieces I had to re-string and re-tune
   my baroque lute to one of the early baroque lute tunings know today as
   Accords Nouveaux.
   I have now completed my amateur home recording of some pieces in the
   socalled "Tuning Gautier" as presented in the manuscript. This "Tuning
   Gautier" corresponds to the Goy 2a tuning of
   fis',d',h,g,d,A,G,Fis,E,D,C. Apparently, this tuning makes reference to
   the French lutenist Jacques Gautier who was in England from 1617 until
   about 1640.
   I hope there are experts around (such as Andreas Schlegel) explaining
   us more in detail the "Accords Nouveaux Story".
   The 11ch lute I play is from Renatus Lechner, Bremen, Germany.
   I look forward to your critical comments to following pieces:
   Coranto Gautier [1][2]https://youtu.be/xE42_U5SFIM
   Galliard; [2][3]https://youtu.be/jJpIcQs9PSY
   Horn-Pipe; [3][4]https://youtu.be/euZ9PKlZPeY
   Besse Bell; [4][5]https://youtu.be/3iByegE0krM
   Coranto: [5][6]https://youtu.be/_4rmvpGQB7k
   Country Dance: [6][7]https://youtu.be/iPZ78tA6Ad0
   Courante: [7][8]https://youtu.be/omgegijOEqk
   Best regards,
   Bernhard, Vienna.
   --
   References
   1. [9]https://youtu.be/xE42_U5SFIM
   2. [10]https://youtu.be/jJpIcQs9PSY
   3. [11]https://youtu.be/euZ9PKlZPeY
   4. [12]https://youtu.be/3iByegE0krM
   5. [13]https://youtu.be/_4rmvpGQB7k
   6. [14]https://youtu.be/iPZ78tA6Ad0
   7. [15]https://youtu.be/omgegijOEqk
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References

   1. mailto:fischer...@aon.at
   2. https://youtu.be/xE42_U5SFIM
   3. https://youtu.be/jJpIcQs9PSY
   4. https://youtu.be/euZ9PKlZPeY
   5. https://youtu.be/3iByegE0krM
   6. https://youtu.be/_4rmvpGQB7k
   7. https://youtu.be/iPZ78tA6Ad0
   8. https://youtu.be/omgegijOEqk
   9. https://youtu.be/xE42_U5SFIM
  10. https://youtu.be/jJpIcQs9PSY
  11. https://youtu.be/euZ9PKlZPeY
  12. https://youtu.be/3iByegE0krM
  13. https://youtu.be/_4rmvpGQB7k
  14. https://youtu.be/iPZ78tA6Ad0
  15. https://youtu.be/omgegijOEqk
  16. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Biechteler

2016-08-30 Thread AJN 
   Thanks or the information, Markus.  I did see some atttribution to
   "Matt" Biechteler.
   Placide Marie Pichler was a Benedtine friar, famed organist and
   composer of sacred vocal music.  He was born, as you
   suggested, rather late--in 1722.  Some of the Pichler ensembles can be
   dated positively before 1731, so they
   could hardly be by Placide.  I need to find my notes and will write
   more tomorrow. Pichler is a real problem.
   And the variety of spellings makes for more difficulties.  E.g., BA
   1/4chler.  Sometimes BA 1/4chler on the cover, and
   Pichler on the parts.


   On 08/30/16, Markus Lutz<[1]mar...@gmlutz.de> wrote:

   I also was very astonished about the title of the mail.
   Biechteler is Matthias Sigismund Biechteler of Greiffenthal (about
   1668-1743), who was the successor of Biber in Salzburg and played the
   lute. But I don't think there is a piece by him in MS Egerton 2046.
   There are some in A-WAP:s ms. 120 and PL-Kj ms. mus. 40620.
   Furthermore he seems to have been involved in A-KR78.
   Pichler still is a mistery. For sure he cannot be identified with
   Placide Marie Pichler - he is much too late and it is never said that
   he
   played the lute.
   Best regards
   Markus
   Am 30.08.2016 um 21:53 schrieb AJN:
   > The thread is titled "Biechteler." Which piece(s) listed below are by
   > B.? And do you know who he is? Pichler?
   >
   >
   > On 08/30/16, Fischer BE (Aon)<[1][2]fischer...@aon.at> wrote:
   >
   > Dear Friends,
   > Some years ago I was reading through the original tabulature
   manuscript
   > MS Egerton 2046 ("Jane Pickering Lute Book") in the British Library,
   > London. This manuscript is know as one of the finest sources of the
   > English lute repertory, because it contains more than 80 renaissance
   > lute pieces from composers such as Dowland, Rosseter, Bacheler and
   > Johnson.
   > However, the great surprise at least for me was that in the middle of
   > the book varying writers have added - partially in an
   > upside-down-orientation in the manuscript - early baroque lute music
   > from French and English composers. To make it even more attractive,
   > these pieces in French Tabulature are for lutes in various Accords
   > Nouveaux tunings. To play these pieces I had to re-string and re-tune
   > my baroque lute to one of the early baroque lute tunings know today
   as
   > Accords Nouveaux.
   > I have now completed my amateur home recording of some pieces in the
   > socalled "Tuning Gautier" as presented in the manuscript. This
   "Tuning
   > Gautier" corresponds to the Goy 2a tuning of
   > fis',d',h,g,d,A,G,Fis,E,D,C. Apparently, this tuning makes reference
   to
   > the French lutenist Jacques Gautier who was in England from 1617
   until
   > about 1640.
   > I hope there are experts around (such as Andreas Schlegel) explaining
   > us more in detail the "Accords Nouveaux Story".
   > The 11ch lute I play is from Renatus Lechner, Bremen, Germany.
   > I look forward to your critical comments to following pieces:
   > Coranto Gautier [1][2][3]https://youtu.be/xE42_U5SFIM
   > Galliard; [2][3][4]https://youtu.be/jJpIcQs9PSY
   > Horn-Pipe; [3][4][5]https://youtu.be/euZ9PKlZPeY
   > Besse Bell; [4][5][6]https://youtu.be/3iByegE0krM
   > Coranto: [5][6][7]https://youtu.be/_4rmvpGQB7k
   > Country Dance: [6][7][8]https://youtu.be/iPZ78tA6Ad0
   > Courante: [7][8][9]https://youtu.be/omgegijOEqk
   > Best regards,
   > Bernhard, Vienna.
   > --
   > References
   > 1. [9][10]https://youtu.be/xE42_U5SFIM
   > 2. [10][11]https://youtu.be/jJpIcQs9PSY
   > 3. [11][12]https://youtu.be/euZ9PKlZPeY
   > 4. [12][13]https://youtu.be/3iByegE0krM
   > 5. [13][14]https://youtu.be/_4rmvpGQB7k
   > 6. [14][15]https://youtu.be/iPZ78tA6Ad0
   > 7. [15][16]https://youtu.be/omgegijOEqk
   > To get on or off this list see list information at
   > [16][17]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   >
   > References
   >
   > 1. [18]mailto:fischer...@aon.at
   > 2. [19]https://youtu.be/xE42_U5SFIM
   > 3. [20]https://youtu.be/jJpIcQs9PSY
   > 4. [21]https://youtu.be/euZ9PKlZPeY
   > 5. [22]https://youtu.be/3iByegE0krM
   > 6. [23]https://youtu.be/_4rmvpGQB7k
   > 7. [24]https://youtu.be/iPZ78tA6Ad0
   > 8. [25]https://youtu.be/omgegijOEqk
   > 9. [26]https://youtu.be/xE42_U5SFIM
   > 10. [27]https://youtu.be/jJpIcQs9PSY
   > 11. [28]https://youtu.be/euZ9PKlZPeY
   > 12. [29]https://youtu.be/3iByegE0krM
   > 13. [30]https://youtu.be/_4rmvpGQB7k
   > 14. [31]https://youtu.be/iPZ78tA6Ad0
   > 15. [32]https://youtu.be/omgegijOEqk
   > 16. [33]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/
   >
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   Markus Lutz
   SchulstraAe 11
   88422 Bad Buchau
   Tel 0 75 82 / 92 62 89
   Fax 0 75 82 / 92 62 90
   Mail [34]mar...@gmlutz.de

References

   1. mailto:mar...@gmlutz.de
   2. mailto:fischer...@aon.at
   3. https://youtu.be/xE42_U5SFIM
   4. https://youtu.be/jJpIcQs9PSY
   5. https://youtu.be/euZ9PKlZPeY
   6. https://youtu.be/3iByegE0krM
   7.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Biechteler

2016-08-30 Thread Susan Sandman 
   Dear Bernhard,

   Although I have played many pieces from the Jane Pickering Ms, these
   are new to me. How lovely they are, especially because of the tunings.
  Thank you.

   You might be interested in music for bass viol (played Lyra-way) by
   Johann Christoph  Ziegler, available online from Petrucci ISMLP. The
   manuscript (c. 1680)  has three  suites  in experimental tunings, two
   in standard baroque lute tuning, and one in the standard bass viol
   tuning; all are in French Tab and intendedfor viola da gamba. I
   changed the stringing,  and of the  course tuning,  of my bass viol to
   be able to play these.  With a bit more practicing I hope to post some
   performances in the future; you have inspired me.

   Best regards,

   Susan, Ithaca

   [1]www.ElizabethanConversarion.com
   On Tuesday, August 30, 2016, Fischer BE (Aon) <[2]fischer...@aon.at>
   wrote:

Dear Friends,
Some years ago I was reading through the original tabulature
 manuscript
MS Egerton 2046 ("Jane Pickering Lute Book") in the British
 Library,
London. This manuscript is know as one of the finest sources of
 the
English lute repertory, because it contains more than 80
 renaissance
lute pieces from composers such as Dowland, Rosseter, Bacheler
 and
Johnson.
However, the great surprise at least for me was that in the
 middle of
the book varying writers have added - partially in an
upside-down-orientation in the manuscript - early baroque lute
 music
from French and English composers. To make it even more
 attractive,
these pieces in French Tabulature are for lutes in various
 Accords
Nouveaux tunings. To play these pieces I had to re-string and
 re-tune
my baroque lute to one of the early baroque lute tunings know
 today as
Accords Nouveaux.
I have now completed my amateur home recording of some pieces in
 the
socalled "Tuning Gautier" as presented in the manuscript. This
 "Tuning
Gautier" corresponds to the Goy 2a tuning of
fis',d',h,g,d,A,G,Fis,E,D,C. Apparently, this tuning makes
 reference to
the French lutenist Jacques Gautier who was in England from 1617
 until
about 1640.
I hope there are experts around (such as Andreas Schlegel)
 explaining
us more in detail the "Accords Nouveaux Story".
The 11ch lute I play is from Renatus Lechner, Bremen, Germany.
I look forward to your critical comments to following pieces:
Coranto Gautier [1][3]https://youtu.be/xE42_U5SFIM
Galliard;   [2][4]https://youtu.be/jJpIcQs9PSY
Horn-Pipe;   [3][5]https://youtu.be/euZ9PKlZPeY
Besse Bell;   [4][6]https://youtu.be/3iByegE0krM
Coranto:   [5][7]https://youtu.be/_4rmvpGQB7k
Country Dance:   [6][8]https://youtu.be/iPZ78tA6Ad0
Courante:   [7][9]https://youtu.be/omgegijOEqk
Best regards,
Bernhard, Vienna.
--
 References
1. [10]https://youtu.be/xE42_U5SFIM
2. [11]https://youtu.be/jJpIcQs9PSY
3. [12]https://youtu.be/euZ9PKlZPeY
4. [13]https://youtu.be/3iByegE0krM
5. [14]https://youtu.be/_4rmvpGQB7k
6. [15]https://youtu.be/iPZ78tA6Ad0
7. [16]https://youtu.be/omgegijOEqk
 To get on or off this list see list information at
 [17]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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References

   1. http://www.ElizabethanConversarion.com/
   2. javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','fischer...@aon.at');
   3. https://youtu.be/xE42_U5SFIM
   4. https://youtu.be/jJpIcQs9PSY
   5. https://youtu.be/euZ9PKlZPeY
   6. https://youtu.be/3iByegE0krM
   7. https://youtu.be/_4rmvpGQB7k
   8. https://youtu.be/iPZ78tA6Ad0
   9. https://youtu.be/omgegijOEqk
  10. https://youtu.be/xE42_U5SFIM
  11. https://youtu.be/jJpIcQs9PSY
  12. https://youtu.be/euZ9PKlZPeY
  13. https://youtu.be/3iByegE0krM
  14. https://youtu.be/_4rmvpGQB7k
  15. https://youtu.be/iPZ78tA6Ad0
  16. https://youtu.be/omgegijOEqk
  17. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html