Re: [BBDB] ChangLog 2011-04-16
* Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2011-04-18 16:15:04 -0500]: On Mon Apr 18 2011 Sam Steingold wrote: Now bbdb-mode is also derived from special-mode. I think this make bbdb-mode-map inherit from special-mode-map automatically. I do not know if this could work (suggestions welcome). look at the macro define-derived-mode in derived.el. (define-derived-mode child parent ...) does (set-keymap-parent child-map parent-map) so if you do (define-derived-mode bbdb-mode special-mode ...) then you do not need to do (set-keymap-parent bbdb-mode-map special-mode-map) So these people are asked to just email fsf-reco...@gnu.org, and tell them that their work on BBDB should be considered part of their Emacs assignment. done -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on CentOS release 5.5 (Final) X 11.0.60900031 http://ffii.org http://honestreporting.com http://openvotingconsortium.org http://pmw.org.il http://camera.org http://mideasttruth.com http://dhimmi.com Experience comes with debts. -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
mail administrivia (was: [BBDB] ChangLog 2011-04-16 (addendum))
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:18:45 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW Two many changes today. I lost track! RW 2011-04-16 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org RW * lisp/bbdb.el (bbdb-create-hook, bbdb-change-hook): Use defvar. I think Savannah can handle mailing lists and maybe even send commit e-mails to an address. So I would: - move the bbdb-info list from sourceforge.net; I hate the automatic ads at the bottom. Keep the address working but only as a forward. - set up a bbdb-vcs list for commit messages - ask the Savannah admins to actually set up the post-receive hook accordingly (or maybe we can do it ourselves, I don't know) This would make it easier to people to track BBDB development. Ted -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangLog 2011-04-16
On Mon Apr 18 2011 Ted Zlatanov wrote: The GNU ELPA is only intended for Emacs 24 and higher. Great, thanks. Next week I'll push my old code for Emacs 27.2 to GNU ELPA. It's already somewhat bit-rotten, but maybe some people can still find a way how to revive it! Roland -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangLog 2011-04-16
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 11:06:38 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW On Mon Apr 18 2011 Ted Zlatanov wrote: The GNU ELPA is only intended for Emacs 24 and higher. RW Great, thanks. Next week I'll push my old code for Emacs 27.2 to GNU RW ELPA. It's already somewhat bit-rotten, but maybe some people can RW still find a way how to revive it! Sorry, I'm not sure what code you mean and what Emacs version you meant. Ted -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangLog 2011-04-16
* Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2011-04-16 18:17:41 -0500]: On Wed Apr 13 2011 Sam Steingold wrote: if you do not care about obsolete emacsen, please apply this instead. I extended (and fixed) this patch to inherit from special-mode. thanks Now bbdb-mode is also derived from special-mode. I think this make bbdb-mode-map inherit from special-mode-map automatically. PS. please add me (sds) to bbdb savannah. I have contributed to bbdb in the past, I have write access to emacs bzr and all emacs / fsf (c) papers in place. -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on CentOS release 5.5 (Final) X 11.0.60900031 http://pmw.org.il http://www.memritv.org http://mideasttruth.com http://truepeace.org http://dhimmi.com http://jihadwatch.org Every day above ground is a good day. -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangLog 2011-04-16
On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 11:16:59 -0500 Ted Zlatanov t...@lifelogs.com wrote: TZ On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 11:06:38 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW On Mon Apr 18 2011 Ted Zlatanov wrote: The GNU ELPA is only intended for Emacs 24 and higher. RW Great, thanks. Next week I'll push my old code for Emacs 27.2 to GNU RW ELPA. It's already somewhat bit-rotten, but maybe some people can RW still find a way how to revive it! TZ Sorry, I'm not sure what code you mean and what Emacs version you meant. Heh heh, I tend to miss jokes in technical discussions :) Ted -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangLog 2011-04-16
On Mon Apr 18 2011 Sam Steingold wrote: Now bbdb-mode is also derived from special-mode. I think this make bbdb-mode-map inherit from special-mode-map automatically. I do not know if this could work (suggestions welcome). PS. please add me (sds) to bbdb savannah. I have contributed to bbdb in the past, I have write access to emacs bzr and all emacs / fsf (c) papers in place. I am sorry: Those who have been contributing to GNU Emacs and have previously signed copyright assignments for that, these people need not sign new paperwork. Yet BBDB is not (yet?) part of GNU Emacs. So these people are asked to just email fsf-reco...@gnu.org, and tell them that their work on BBDB should be considered part of their Emacs assignment. Thanks for supporting BBDB! Roland -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: mail administrivia (was: [BBDB] ChangLog 2011-04-16 (addendum))
On Mon Apr 18 2011 Ted Zlatanov wrote: On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:18:45 -0500 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org wrote: RW Two many changes today. I lost track! RW 2011-04-16 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org RW * lisp/bbdb.el (bbdb-create-hook, bbdb-change-hook): Use defvar. I think Savannah can handle mailing lists and maybe even send commit e-mails to an address. So I would: - move the bbdb-info list from sourceforge.net; I hate the automatic ads at the bottom. Keep the address working but only as a forward. - set up a bbdb-vcs list for commit messages - ask the Savannah admins to actually set up the post-receive hook accordingly (or maybe we can do it ourselves, I don't know) This would make it easier to people to track BBDB development. Sounds all good to me! A minor technical issue: will people have to subscribe to the new mailing list? I don't know how many people have subscribed to the current list / how many of these people are actually still interested in BBDB. Roland -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangLog 2011-04-16
Roland Winkler writes: I extended (and fixed) this patch to inherit from special-mode. Now bbdb-mode is also derived from special-mode. Note that Emacs v22 doesn't have special-mode, so this change will make it break on that version (or earlier, of course). -David -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangLog 2011-04-16
On Sun Apr 17 2011 David Engster wrote: Roland Winkler writes: I extended (and fixed) this patch to inherit from special-mode. Now bbdb-mode is also derived from special-mode. Note that Emacs v22 doesn't have special-mode, so this change will make it break on that version (or earlier, of course). Hi Ted What is the ELPA policy for this? I remember having seen some discussion on emacs-devel concerning ELPA support for different Emacs versions. Yet I don't know whether any consensus was ever reached. Personally, I'd be tempted to vote for a BBDB support that doesn't go too far back in Emacs history. So I'd consider v23.1 a reasonable limit. Roland -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
[BBDB] ChangLog 2011-04-16
I tried to incoprorate a bunch of smaller issues that came up on this list the past couple of days. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this in one or the other way. On Wed Apr 13 2011 Sam Steingold wrote: if you do not care about obsolete emacsen, please apply this instead. I extended (and fixed) this patch to inherit from special-mode. Now bbdb-mode is also derived from special-mode. PS: The BBDB web page on savannah includes a bug tracker. This might help to keep track of bugs in BBDB. (Thanks Barak for entering the first report! This bug got hopefully fixed in one of the patches below. I have not yet figured out what I need to do in order to update the bug tracker accordingly.) 2011-04-16 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org * lisp/bbdb.el (bbdb-time-stamp-format): Includes timezone info. 2011-04-16 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org * TODO: New file. 2011-04-16 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org * lisp/bbdb.el (bbdb-faces): Group of faces used by BBDB. (bbdb-name, bbdb-organization, bbdb-field-name): New faces. (bbdb-display-name-organization, bbdb-display-record-one-line) (bbdb-display-record-multi-line): Use them. 2011-04-16 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org * lisp/bbdb.el (bbdb-mode-map): Inherit from special-mode-map. (bbdb-quit-window): Renamed from bbdb-bury-buffer. Use quit-window. (bbdb-mode): Use define-derived-mode. 2011-04-16 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org * lisp/bbdb.el (bbdb-indent-string): New function. (bbdb-display-record-multi-line): Use it. (Bug#33101) 2011-04-16 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org * lisp/bbdb-com.el: Autoload browse-url-url-at-point. 2011-04-16 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org * lisp/bbdb.el (bbdb-create-hook, bbdb-change-hook): Call add-hook for the default hook functions. BBDB is avaiable at http://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/bbdb.git To check it out, use git clone git://git.savannah.nongnu.org/bbdb.git -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
Re: [BBDB] ChangLog 2011-04-16 (addendum)
Two many changes today. I lost track! 2011-04-16 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org * lisp/bbdb.el (bbdb-create-hook, bbdb-change-hook): Use defvar. -- Benefiting from Server Virtualization: Beyond Initial Workload Consolidation -- Increasing the use of server virtualization is a top priority.Virtualization can reduce costs, simplify management, and improve application availability and disaster protection. Learn more about boosting the value of server virtualization. http://p.sf.net/sfu/vmware-sfdev2dev ___ bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bbdb-info BBDB Home Page: http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/
