Berners
Daphane 1983-1993 ten years four months
Jorda 1986-1999 thirteen years two weeks two days
Yoda 1992-2002 nine years six months
Moses is eight years three months old
Four Bernese with longevity!
Lisa Allen
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The new
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tracey Conner
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 10:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: celebrating seniors
Mi-ja's Solo Singer NDD, BNDD, CGC aka Cricket 9/4/01 (10 yrs., 2 mos.)
Sajan's Vivacious
I've had a few messages from people saying that they would like to donate
to our AKC CHF Fundraiser, but were afraid that their checks wouldn't
arrive in time for the raffle. NEVER FEAR!!! I am a very trusting
person and if you let me know what amount you are sending for the
fundraiser and
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Hi L'ers,
Daisy (now 3 years old) loves her agility classes. My husband Jack has made
several jumps, the tire jump, weave poles (with springs) and is now working
on the dog walk.
Does anyone doing agility know of a good book that suggests ways to teach
your dog how to do the obstacles? Also
Hudson, 5/23/99 - 2/17/02, loved by JB Jenkins and family, Arlington, VA
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From: Sylvia Katvala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Berner-L Histio Rollcall
If you're interested, add yours to the List.
Commissary would like to recall the message, Berner-L Histio Rollcall.
Hudson, 5/23/99 - 2/17/02, loved by JB Jenkins and family, Arlington VA
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From: Pat Long [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Berner-L Histio Rollcall
If you're interested, add yours to the List.
Hannibal,
Hi Lois,
There is no need to cover the sutures. You might want to put an Elizabethan
collar on Riley to stop him chewing at them but other than that they should
be okay and just keep him in a comfortable area and monitor him.
Rose
GReat advice from all the experienced berner folks out
there. Having a 13 week old berner boy and 2 older
girls, it is imperative to have appropriate
expectations for all.
I would recommend getting a couple of the wonderful
puppy books that address developmental stages. They
will help to keep
In a message dated 11/20/2002 9:45:45 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why is that? Is it a no-no to mention kennel names when
dealing with the dreaded diseases?
Not for me. I think it's just the way that list got started.
Arrow (2/14/97 - 12/8/98) is Caroling's
Sanduskys Kobi Balsiger 1/20/91 - 2/22/97 - Kobi was loved by the entire Balsiger
family
Lynn Balsiger
In a message dated 11/20/2002 9:38:46 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Outside to potty
Breakfast
Play
Outside to potty
Play/training
Nap
Outside to potty
Play/Training/or a short 10 minute walk.
Lunch
Play
Potty
play
Nap...me too!
Potty
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Mi-ja's Solo Singer NDD, BNDD, CGC aka Cricket 9/4/91
(11 yrs., 2 mos.)
Sajan's Vivacious Vicka aka Vicka 2-16-92 (10 yrs, 8
mos)
Talley 9-30-90 (11 yrs, 1 mo.)
Ch. Rainbow La Fraisiere CGC aka Bogen - 2-21-92 (10
yrs, 8mos)
CH Degrasso's Harleigh V Legacy-2-18-92 (10yrs, 8mos)
Maine's Nordic
Oh boy, I hope I do this right, ...
***Would you tell us what the NSBC's function is and give us a thumbnail
sketch of what your friend does as national coordinator for Berner litter
registrations?
Thanks in advance and welcome!
Ruth Reynolds
Thank you Ruth, for your warm welcome, I have
A couple of years ago I looked for some-got the guy to pull out the catalog and
everything
but alas no Berner.
Dino
Hello - Has anyone seen Berner head covers for golf clubs? Matilde wants
to buy one for her dad for Christmas. :) I've found other breeds, but
no Berners. Please email if you
Can anyone recommend a training center near Paramus, New Jersey?
I'm looking for a center that offers puppy kindergarten or basic
manners, and agility. Also want them to use positive methods
and offer introductory clicker classes. Thanks
--
Cheryl Brickach
Cecilia
After reading your post on the Swedish Code of Ethics it sounds as if
your breeders are truly concerned for the health and well being not just
of the breed but the individual dog.
Did you have a hard time getting breeders in Sweden to agree to these
rules or did they do so willingly, or
Cecilia,
Thank you so much for the information, and thank you for doing it in
English, your English is beautiful, no complaints here!
I'm curious to know if you have any sort of estimate for the number of
litters produced outside of the control of this committee in your country?
None? 1/10th?
HOOORAY!!! This is such GREAT NEWS!! I was wondering how long they were
going to take!!! I had seen months ago that they opened it for military
families only. Imagine what that can mean!!?? Not only can people now
take their dogs to CRUFTS ... But it opens doors for breeding, heck,
even
In a message dated 11/20/2002 10:11:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What does Limited Registration mean??
Hi Susie,
AKC Limited Registration means that were you to breed that dog or bitch, the
puppies couldn't be registered with AKC. A dog or bitch with limited
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences and information -- there is
so much to learn!! I would like to link something that you have said to a
recent discussion on the berner-l. You indicate that the incident of HD and
ED has been greatly reduced since the implementation of the breeding code
My heart just breaks to see the roll call of histio victims - and I know
there are many more to come. Many of the names are familiar to me only
through this list, some I have known personally.
I was just wondering, if about 1 in 6 berners dies from histio, and if we
took the histio deaths out of
In a message dated 11/19/2002 7:15:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My 11 week + old berner pup is quite bull headed. If she does not like
to go out or walk after she is out she just sits or lays down.
Remember when you read that Bernese are smart? ;-)
She's not
Maria wrote
Hi L'ers,
Daisy (now 3 years old) loves her agility classes. My husband Jack has made
several jumps, the tire jump, weave poles (with springs) and is now working
on the dog walk.
Humph. I'll tell you the secret of work away in return for you sending Jack up here
to make a load
Susan Ablon wrote:
Did you have a hard time getting breeders in Sweden to agree to these
rules or did they do so willingly, or did they have a choice?
Do you find breeders who refuse to abide by these rules?
Are there large kennels where large numbers of puppies are produced
annually?
I
posted in plain text for Cecilia:
Pat,
Thank you for your kind words. I knew this would be an interesting thread
and I almost knew who would be asking the first questions, lol.
I'm curious to know if you have any sort of estimate for the number of
litters produced outside of the control of
Do they have a Rainbow Bridge Poem for Horses?
Someone in my daughters Band lost her horse early this am.
Sylvia Katvala
Valerie,
I think you'll be very surprised! The average age at time of death for
histio was 89.7 months, and the overall average was 84.43 months. So if we
remove histio as part of the average age calculation, the average age at
time of death - would go down! But if we find a way to prevent
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 20:31:16 +0100 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cecilia_St=E5hl?=
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I can ask for the the total numbers of registered litters from each
kennel
if
that will help answer your question more precisely
Thanks that would be interesting to know. Are the dogs in high
The cancer that really hurts us is lymphoma.
It is my understanding that lymphoma is the most common cancer in dogs in
general. I'm not sure if there is a heritable component to it or not. It's
really hard to determine this when a dog dies of it and produces the breed
average for it. I
HI All,
FYI, this was posted to the TM list.
Fox news has just announced that the pet passport program in Britain that
allows cats and dogs from the continent to waive the quarantine, will be
extended to the U.S. and Canada starting Dec. 11.
Liz Murray
Calgary Alberta
Just came across an excellent article on the use of glucosamine chondroitin
sulfate in the treatment of arthritis. The how's and why's, caveats, and
references.
Interesting reading for anyone pondering whether to use glucosamine or
chondroitin sulfate or a combo product...and which one.
In a message dated 11/20/2002 2:41:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Cancer, number of dogs, average
age at time of death (in months) from the 2000 BMDCA health survey:
Malignant histio 43 89.7
Lymphosarcoma12 78
Hemangiosarcoma 7 113
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writes:
It is my understanding that lymphoma is the most common cancer in
dogs in
general. I'm not sure if there is a heritable component to it or
not. It's
really hard to determine this when a dog dies of it and produces
Pat and Ray:
Oh, my!! If not a spectator sport, then surely a spectacle sport!!
Nancy Melone
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From: Ray Pat Burgett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:05 PM
To: Vicky Whitney; Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List
Subject: Re: Boy Questions
Hi Susan and all,
Susan wrote:
Ruth excuse my ignorance, but wasn't the study done by Dr. Padgett done
to determine the hereditability of cancer in Bernese and wasn't it
concluded that only histio and mast cell were hereditary?
** yes, that is what he has concluded so far. however, he
Ruth excuse my ignorance, but wasn't the study done by Dr. Padgett done to
determine the hereditability of cancer in Bernese and wasn't it concluded
that only histio and mast cell were hereditary
No, you'll have to forgive MY ignorance Susan. That might have been a
conclusion that was drawn by
I suspect we live in a very viral, polluted environment and that it will
be a very long time before we have the answers to these questions. Ruth
Ryenolds
Cecelia---back me up on this...this is the Swedish spelling of my last name,
right? ;-)
:-)
RRuth
OK, I know puppies lose the sharp little teeth in front and the incisors but
just noticed Nicco's back molars on top are loose/out...was not expecting
that.
Also, hiccups..he has them every day, always for a very short duration and
only once or twice a day..every day. Normal for pups?, why?,
Say a prayer for little Lilly... we had her mass removed yesterday and
should know by Friday if it benign. She looks so funny with a half shaved
head and Frankenstein stiches!
Thanks for all of you who expressed concern
Jessica, Shawn and Lilly
Lititz, PA
This was one of my favourite parts of puppyhood. Tucker almost always had
the hiccups when he woke up from a nap. Too cute!
Don't know when exactly they went away - probably by six months? About the
same time he stopped *looking* so much like a puppy.
Jen
Also, hiccups..he has them every
Your opinion is not at all offensive :) I believe that if a breeding code of
ethics required a certain type of food or exercise, then one might suggest
that lowered incidence of HD and ED was perhaps related to those things.
However, my understanding is that the breeding code of ethics simply
It occurs to me, as I look at the growing list of seniors, that if each one
of us donated blood from these wonderful old sweeties to the histio study, we
could get Heidi Parker all the control samples she needs! I'm sending her a
request for the kit now - any other takers?
Ann Skinner and the
Hidden Valley Grand B Zephyr NDD, BNDD, CGC, TT, TDI, HCT-s, Can DD (Zephyr)
Born January 6th, 1992 and going strong. Look for him and his bros in the
Alpenhorn.
Terri Zimmerman, Zephyr, Zaltana, Kita
Zodiac, gone from this earth but not from this heart.
Washington State, USA Puget Sound with
I would like to buy all the Boris books I don't
already own. However I am waiting to see if Amazon
will run another shipping free offer. I hope one
wouldn't cancel the other benefit.
Happy Trails, Jeannie Schoen, Greta, BARC Gulliver,
Sophie forever in Michigan
I had some ISP problems, I'm playing catch-up here, forgive me if things
have already been answered.
Dr. Padgett and a group studied several types of cancer, and were able
to conclude at that time that only histio and mast cell definitely had a
hereditary basis in the breed. He is studying
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Ch Tennescott Sulki Tatiana 11/06/90 12 yr 3 weeks
Ch Tennescott Chloe's Clover 11/23/91 - 12/29/01 10yr 1 mo
meg novorro
scotch plains, nj
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Ellen -
If someone can get the dog from WI to the IL/WI border, I can take him from
there another hour or so south of Chicago toward Peoria. Then we need
someone to take him from that point (near the I-80/I-294 junction), another 1
1/2 to 2 hours down to Peoria.
Anne Copeland, Flash,TDI/CGC
Mi-ja's Solo Singer NDD, BNDD, CGC aka Cricket 9/4/01 (10 yrs., 2 mos.)
Sajan's Vivacious Vicka aka Vicka 2-16-92 (10 yrs, 8 mos)
Talley 9-30-90 (11 yrs, 1 mo.)
Ch. Rainbow La Fraisiere CGC aka Bogen - 2-21-92 (10 yrs, 8mos)
CH Degrasso's Harleigh V Legacy-2-18-92 (10yrs, 8mos)
GREAT IDEA she already has my Bogen's - brought it with me in August when I
came to the Hutch for my own treatment.
Molly and the gang
Charlottesville, VA
(Seattle until Dec. 15)
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It occurs to me, as I look at the growing list of seniors, that if each one
of us
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