Re: the dog on the mountain in Switzerland

2002-12-04 Thread MazamaDog
Thank you Pat Long for pointing out all the ways that we can help the breed instead of hand wringing and moaning about doom and gloom! Many people have contributed time and effort to improve the lives and future of this breed - hats off to them for all they have done and continue to do! If

RE: OT - Flying pets to Ireland

2002-12-04 Thread Daniel Buckley
Hi Jennie, As you can see below Ireland has very strict quarantine laws that require at least six months quarantine. Although I believe you can now quarantine on your own premises, providing it meets with their specs. The dept of agriculture will send a vet to inspect that you have meet their

OT - Flying pets to Ireland

2002-12-04 Thread BERNERINFO
Hi Jennie, Pets coming into the UK have to travel under the Pets Travel Scheme (known as PETS) or go into 6 months quarantine. All the current vaccine/health cert requirements for the PETS can be found on http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/index.htm Hope that helps! Jude Simonds

Costs of Owning a Berner

2002-12-04 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
Barbara, I put together a poster to display at the Philadelphia Dog Show about the costs of owning a berner, it's a list of normal first year costs, and a list of the costs of various genetic based problems that reputable breeders attempt to minimize, and a list of costs to breeders for testing

French Dog Food

2002-12-04 Thread Timothy Forman
Lisa, Here in Europe they have some very high quality dog foods. Certainly there is more variety (or at least it is easier to find variety), bags of dried veggie flakes, dried egg flakes, and a wide assortment of kibbles and canned foods. I'm not sure how wide-spread BARF is in France, but

Re: Swiss saying

2002-12-04 Thread Kathy Tim Kennedy
I have a version of the Swiss saying that was given to me by a Swiss person with one more important part. Three years a young dog, three years a good dog, three years an old dog and three years a gift from God. So having Berners living to 11, 12 is very possible, it is also a special gift. In

RE: . . .becoming rare breed

2002-12-04 Thread Karen McFarlane
I must say that I entered this Berner world with perhaps my eyes and ears shut. When I purchased my beautiful boy in March of this year I had no idea about all of the problems and health issues associated with this breed. I wholeheartedly admit that I was hypnotized and absolutely smitten when I

How the breed will be saved (dog on the mountain)

2002-12-04 Thread gwebara
I've reached the cynical point in this breed that we are beyond saving it. The BMDCA has it's own agenda which seems to be one of placating the large breeder (no code of ethics yet that could possibly require anything of substance from it's membership) and holding dog shows. The grass roots

2003 Berner Calendar

2002-12-04 Thread Terri Taylor-Mikes
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Re:2003 Berner Calendar

2002-12-04 Thread Patricia Tackett
There are several Berner calendars -- Pet Prints sell one that Bernd Gunter does (VERY nice photographs) Brown Trout sells a BMD calendar. Lone Star BMDC is selling one they produced using unusually marked BMD's, it's called the Signature Calendar the profits are going to Light One Candle

I think that I did it again!!

2002-12-04 Thread Karen McFarlane
I sent an entry this morning or at least I think that I did. Why am I having such a problem with sending things. Pat, could you please let me know if you received it. The gist of my epistle was about the many health issues concerning Berners. If you did not receive it I would like to resend it.

Re: Dewclaws

2002-12-04 Thread BernerFolk
In a message dated 12/4/2002 9:32:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do breeders usually have their BMD pups due claws removed? In the US, responsible breeders have rear dewclaws removed when pups are a day or two old. Front dews may be either left intact or removed

Re: dewclaws

2002-12-04 Thread Ruth Reynolds
- Original Message - From: Hicks, Jackie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 8:30 AM Do breeders usually have their BMD pups due claws removed? According to the breed standard rear dewclaws should be removed. According to the breed standard fore

pet insurance

2002-12-04 Thread PortraitsDH
I was wondering if anyone can tell of their experiences with pet insurance: the realities vs the myths.Cancers covered/not covered.etc. Thanks, Debbie Hennes

Re: How the breed will be saved (dog on the mountain)

2002-12-04 Thread BernerFolk
In a message dated 12/4/2002 8:41:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I only hope that there are at least a core of breeders choosing to maintain strict controls and keep bloodlines that in the end can be worked with in a responsible way once the fad ends Can you

Re: dewclaws

2002-12-04 Thread Mary-Ann Bowman
I remove rear dewclaws only. The front ones seems to actually serve a function, especially for performance dogs. My vet comes to our home when the puppies are 2-3 days old to remove dewclaws. She numbs the area first and the tiny injection was not problematic for the puppies. Although some

Re: the dog on the mountain in Switzerland:becoming rare breed

2002-12-04 Thread Michaela Simmons
Lisa How can we possibly expect to improve health in the breed if over 2000 per year are bred in the USA alone, and these are ONLY the Berner pups registered with the AKC! and, more cryptically: With a population of Berners, regardless of source, exploding, perhaps an understatement, and

Wingfield's American Pi 7/8/98 - 12/04/02

2002-12-04 Thread berner1
posted in plain text for Cathie: I just received a very sad phone call from my dear friend, Laura Peschke of Cleveland, Ohio. Laura has been the proud keeper of my first born pup, Wingfield's American Pi aka Pi. Pi was due to come into this world on the 4th of July, hence the name.

OT - flying pets to ireland

2002-12-04 Thread Tracey
I just asked my British friend, she says Ireland (NOT NORTHERN) does NOT have quarantine!! So, presuming your cousin is moving to Ireland, and not Northern Ireland ... It may be easy. If she is going to N. Ireland, then quarantine comes into play. Pet passport is supposed to be open for N. America

Re: the dog on the mountain in Switzerland:becoming rare breed

2002-12-04 Thread HenochNJ
Michaela, I think that Lisa's point is primarily that no one who loves Berneses, warts and all (literally and figuratively), wants to see the breed go the way of the Dalmation, the Rottweiler, or even the Golden...bred in numbers to meet perceived demand, often bought up by people who saw the

Re: Papers for flying

2002-12-04 Thread Kathryn Davis
Be sure to ask if the cargo bay is pressurized (w/air heat) if the pup has to fly down there. I got one idiot who booked a flight to WI for the Nat'l for Tobin I. The next day, I called back to get one more question answered, got a different guy found out the previous guy didn't have a

Re: Canadian Shows

2002-12-04 Thread Jeff Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners
Hi Jennifer Everyone, Here is a great link to dog show information. If you click on conformation it will explain dog shows, how to get started showing etc. There is a link for dog show superintendants, (including Western Dog Shows, which handles the Canadian shows) AKC, CKC, Obedience, herding

Winter skin??

2002-12-04 Thread Karen McFarlane
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Re: dewclaws

2002-12-04 Thread Pauline
- Original Message - From: Ruth Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do breeders usually have their BMD pups due claws removed? According to the breed standard rear dewclaws should be removed. Aahh, but for the sake of those who have never looked at the dewclaws on newborn puppies - Do you

Re: Canadian Shows

2002-12-04 Thread Jeff Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners
Hi Jennifer and all, Here is the other info. you requested: In Canada you are not required to have two wins of major points in order to gain his/her Championship. Your dog has to win a total of 10 points. The number of dogs/bitches your dog wins over decides the number of points each win earns.

Re: BERNER-L digest 4159

2002-12-04 Thread FcRangers
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Need info on dog car ramp.

2002-12-04 Thread Dean Scott
When we brought Skyland's Pralines in Cream into our home in 1993. We bought a 1992 left over van, we always called it Pralines van. And any time someone ask how much does it cost to keep a Berner we always include the price of the van. Well I am glad to announce that the van died this week and

Re: How the breed will be saved (dog on the mountain)

2002-12-04 Thread gwebara
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:58:49 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you elaborate on that Susan...I'm not sure exactly what you mean by bloodlines. Sherri I agree the term was used incorrectly (excuse that 5am composition). I think what I should have said to be more exact is that there are

Re: dewclaws

2002-12-04 Thread gwebara
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 08:02:23 -0700 Mary-Ann Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..The front ones seems to actually serve a function, especially for performance dogs. I have heard this several times. It has been awhile since I've done any performance work and it was limited to obedience

Nose to Nose

2002-12-04 Thread Vicky Whitney
I think a couple of sources were mentioned earlier (Boris's Books website, and ??? -- sorry, my Sometimer's Disease is acting up today). I got mine directly from Barry Schieber, the author, at [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you order 15 at one time, the total cost (including shipping) is only $10.15

Re: dewclaws

2002-12-04 Thread Mary-Ann Bowman
Hi Happy to provide info :) A discussion of the dog's foot would not be complete without mention of the dew claws. In most dogs, the dew claws are attached to the bones of the pastern by a joint. When dogs canter or gallop there is one moment when a single front leg remains on the ground,

Re: More How the breed will be saved (dog on the mountain)

2002-12-04 Thread gwebara
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 10:18:39 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm as frustrated as you with much of the BMDCA...but I can't point a finger at the club per se, nor the leadership. Nor can I point a finger at the large breeders, simply because I truly don't know how they feel about the

Re: dewclaws

2002-12-04 Thread gwebara
Thank you Mary Ann. I guess the only time my dogs cantered or galloped was when they took the jumps and they did not seem affected by the lack of dewclaw. I am curious how horses function as the movement you describe is very easily seen in the galloping and cantoring horse although I always

Re: the dog on the mountain in Switzerland

2002-12-04 Thread Corinne
Hi Emma, If I can help you, do not hesitate to use my private address mail ;-) Can you say to me in private which is the French breeder about whom you talk and which were problems ? Corinne, (speaking perfect french but bad english ;-) ) Phlibust Wonda Near Paris (France)

More How the breed will be saved (dog on the mountain)

2002-12-04 Thread Vicky Whitney
ORIGINAL POST: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm as frustrated as you with much of the BMDCA...but I can't point a finger t the club per se, nor the leadership. Nor can I point a finger at the large breeders, simply because I truly don't know how they feel about the various proposals that have been

Nails. Is wear a sign of use?

2002-12-04 Thread Ruth Reynolds
I rarely have to trim toenails on my dogs including dewclaw nails. I always figured the dogs wear the regular nails down through their daily exercise. Dogs who are not as active or who have gross conformational flaws have nails that need more attention at my house. Maybe they DO wear down the

Re: MY ERROR re: swiss saying

2002-12-04 Thread Bernershel
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Re: Papers for flying

2002-12-04 Thread Sharon Greenberg
Hi Kathryn, Thanks for your response to my question re. flying pups. I am planning to take the 8 week old pup in a Sherpa bag under my seat, I'm not going in the cargo hold pressurized or not! : ) Mary-Ann I have already made the necessary arrangements. Sharon Greenberg - Original

Need info on dog car ramp

2002-12-04 Thread Todd/Jennifer Zaayer
Hi Dean, I actually have _both_ of the popular dog ramps, so I can tell you the pros/cons of each. I first bought the Petstep when at about 8 1/2 years of age, Crombie (who weighed about 105-110) began to have trouble leaping into the back of my Landcruiser on occassion (the tailgate is 31 high).

More dewclaws questions

2002-12-04 Thread Michaela Simmons
Mary-Ann wrote I remove rear dewclaws only. Why are rear dewclaws removed? Is it solely to conform to the breed standard? Or is there another reason why rear dewclaw should be removed? My younger Berner has a full set of dewclaws ( front and rear) and the nails of the hind dewclaws are a pain.

The Eyes Have It!

2002-12-04 Thread Lisa D Allen
Some of the ways to get the dog back up on the top of the mountain, roaming about the farm, would be to appoint breed wardens (I would like these to be no-nonsense kind of gals like Mary Alice, Debby Mulvey, and Esther Mueller (excuse spellings), rules that allow no leniency such as you may not

CVBMDC is hosting a carting workshop

2002-12-04 Thread Laurie Farley
The Chattahoochee Valley Bernese Mountain Dog Club is hosting a carting workshop near Greenville, SC January 11, 2003. You can visit www.cvbmdc.org/newsletter.html for more information, but please don't laugh. Our website is in the baby stages. Contact me with your name and address and I will send

RE: age for carting

2002-12-04 Thread Lisa Ebnet
Andrea, I start all my pups at 7-8 weeks in harness pulling leashes behind them. The I attach a cereal box or pillow case to the leashes. Pretty soon they have a little plastic puppy cart they pull around certainly by 10 weeks old. Of course, these little training sessions last all of 2 minutes!

Hernia operation - should I?

2002-12-04 Thread Michaela Simmons
Rupert, my 16 month old Berner, has an umbilical hernia. In view that it didn't seem to worry his breeder, nor my vet and, most importantly, doesn't appear to worry my dog, I just left it alone. I intended to have it fixed when he was neutered at 10 month - but then promptly forgot all about it

Re: Winter skin??

2002-12-04 Thread jean cheesman
Could someone please advise me if there is a user friendly supplement or additive that I could use for Stevie's dry skin. It is just a wee bit flakey and I usually call that kind of flakiness at this time of year, Winter skin. I would add oily fish to his diet, after all our Berners were

Re: Eye Discharge

2002-12-04 Thread jean cheesman
Recently my 4 month old BMD (Bella) has been having an inordinate amount of eye discharge. Any sort of eye discharge in any of my animals I always keep a tube of Brolene. Used to be Golden Eye ointment here UK, no doubt in the US you have a similar cream over the counter, chemist/pharmicist,

Berners, Horses, Ponies, etc

2002-12-04 Thread jean cheesman
Has been great to see just how many other Berner owners also have horse and ponies! Any pics forthcoming here? Happy to make up a special page on my Friends Gallery! I have just, very belatedly, (post bad gales here UK that set me way behind!) uploaded some new pics from Carole and Tony's visit

Re: Canadian Shows

2002-12-04 Thread Joanne Gerow
I just got back from Montreal Canada this Sunday. It was my first trip and I had a blast. The best part is my dog is now a Canadian Champion! To finish, a dog must get 10 points under at least 3 different judges. Points range from 1 to 5 points, depending on the amount of dogs entered. (You

RE: Nose to Nose

2002-12-04 Thread Andrea Brin
amazon has the book, so does by jove andrea, woofit and chi shavertown, pa http://www.brin.org/Woofit_and_Chi/

Being chased by humans

2002-12-04 Thread Laurie Montoya
I've been taking my Hannah to a little city pretty much every day , I have to wait for my daughter while she's in ballet classes daily. Hannah is known to most of the shop owners now , and to many people who work in the area and walk past us :-). Today I got the fright of my life when a gentleman

RE: Canadian Shows - a Brag!

2002-12-04 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
-Original Message- From: Joanne Gerow The best part is my dog is now a Canadian Champion! Joanne, That is a definite brag, and a great one at that! Congratulations!! Are you familiar with the Berner-L Brag Fund? It's voluntary, all donations from $0 to $1,000,000 are cheerfully

Berner Puppy

2002-12-04 Thread Elif Caputa
Hi All, We currently have a pup Berner, 2 yr old boy named Koc. We were thinking about getting him a friend. For this reason, I was wondering if any of you could help me find a reputable breeder in Florida. We live in Florida and I would want to make sure Koc and the puppy get along good before

Kobi's French web page

2002-12-04 Thread LEKesner
Gen and Kobi, Enjoyed you photos very much - Kobi must have snuck in a few Cute Lessons before you took those photos :-) as he is a darling. Also loved the page on your web site with the Queen of the Cows fights - I guess you had to be there - the trophy bells are lovely. Did they have any

Bone/Rag Eater, Kongs, Dew Claws

2002-12-04 Thread CandiA3474
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Snow!

2002-12-04 Thread zanned
We got our first snow here in North Carolina today. School got out early, so I was glad to get home and take the dogs out in it. Socrates, at 9, has begun to slow down and limp pretty regularly from arthritis. No sign of either today. He ran and chased and played with Bagley through the huge

BARC LOC Challenge Fundraiser

2002-12-04 Thread MBlake1595
Joye and all Berner-L friends, I have been out to this great raffle website 4 times now and it is JUST to hard for me to decide which items I want to try for on the quick, little mini raffle. SO, this is what I am going to do... I am send a check to Joye for $40.00 which is to be used

Re: BARC LOC Challenge Fundraiser

2002-12-04 Thread Dr. William B. Neff
Hi Marilynn and Star, What a thoughtful way to spend your tickets for the BARC LOC Challenge Fundraiser!!! That is really great - I'll put MS (Marilynn Star) on each of those tickets so the next 28 people who send in their donations will know which tickets are their bonus tickets from you.

Fwd: Christmas ball

2002-12-04 Thread EURAM1942
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Help

2002-12-04 Thread James and Karen Gross
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Re: More dewclaws questions

2002-12-04 Thread Eileen Morgan
- Original Message - From: Michaela Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why are rear dewclaws removed? Is it solely to conform to the breed standard? Or is there another reason why rear dewclaw should be removed? A lot of folks will tell you dewclaws mean trouble--getting snagged, requiring

Re: dewclaws

2002-12-04 Thread Eileen Morgan
- Original Message - From: Mary-Ann Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, just imagine how much better horses would be if only they had dew claws!!! ;) Well . . . they have chestnuts (also called night eyes) which are the vestigial remains of the fifth toe. It's that funny patch on the

Berner fan club

2002-12-04 Thread Sweattees
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Re: Hernia operation - should I?

2002-12-04 Thread BMDwags
Hi Michaela- If you had your dog neutered already, I am surprised that your vet did not go ahead and fix it surgically regardless of you authorizing it. Typically it is done for the dog at the time of the spay/castration...and many owners are never the wary. g That said, it is not a

Daisy's Tips: Buddy and The Magic Machine

2002-12-04 Thread Maria Crifasi
Hi ho L'ers, While reading the Berner-L, I noticed that there is a pitiful lack of creativity when it comes to working the working dog. Besides the usual pursuits like carting (groan), tracking (yawn), obedience (gag), agility g and therapy, there is also camping, hiking, swimming, etc.

Another Berner in the Snow

2002-12-04 Thread chellotchr
Yes, folks, it is SNOWING in southeastern Virginia. I don't remember having snow this early here for many years. My 20.5 month old Berner went out and stared at the sky, trying to figure out what this hard stuff was, pelting him in the head!!! As you may remember, Klarsson is a rescue that I

Re: Nails. Is Wear A Sign of Use?

2002-12-04 Thread jean cheesman
Maybe they DO wear down the dewclaw nails through use. My Tinka was thirteen when suddenly she would paw my leg and leave scratches, did start to clip her front dew claws then! Until then, no problem! My three at the moment have front dew claws intact, they still seem to wear them down naturally,

My dogs' very favorite ramp/a new teacher to the masses

2002-12-04 Thread Lisa D Allen
A carpenter friend of mine built a beautiful, carpeted dog ramp for my Bernese to assist them in entering the van. If they used it at all, it was with reluctance; they let it be known to me that the ramp of their choice was MamaliftmeorIwontgetin! Interesting experience today; I was at a local

Re: Daisy's Tips: Buddy and The Magic Machine

2002-12-04 Thread MBlake1595
Daisy, Since Bernese Mountain Dogs are so good at training people (Which seems to be very easy and must be related to the size of the brain or something) I see no problem with our moving on to a more challenging situation. After all, ATM's should learn to dispense something of real value

Re: BERNER-L digest 4161

2002-12-04 Thread Mila K. Gorman
I have a 3 year old male berner, who is a certified therapy dog, but all of a sudden has decided not to listen to any commands at all. He will not come inside , stays outside for 5-7 hrs at a time . any specific training, trainers?t 0AI would like to find someone local, we live in

re; Canadian Shows

2002-12-04 Thread mtndog
you have to get an ERN number every time you show. In addition, if you use an ERN number, *** No you dont. You get the number issued one time, and you use that number for the rest of the dog's life, while you show in Canada. I faxed the info to CKC, and got all my ERN's back in time to enter

State of the Breed (dog on the mt, whatever)

2002-12-04 Thread Sharon Montville
It is very important to remember this fact about the Bernese in the USA: This is no longer a rare breed. I will say it again for emphasis - this is NOT a rare breed. So, I just don't understand why people are paying top dollar for a puppy just because it is a BMD. I don't understand why people

Re: re; Canadian Shows

2002-12-04 Thread Joanne Gerow
Yes, I meant to say you have to USE an ERN # everytime you show, sorry...it is much easier, IMO to just register your dog CKC. - Original Message - From: mtndog [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Berner L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 11:07 PM Subject: re; Canadian Shows you