Re: BERNER-L digest 4100

2002-11-06 Thread gilmargirls
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Digest 4101 will be a problem for many of you, Ask me for a new copy

2002-11-06 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
We had what I suspect is a virus sent to the list again from gilmargirl. That address has been deleted, and I know that there will be digest problems like we had with 4094, which was the last time the same thing happened. This email is mostly to let the digest recipients know to ask for another

Re: Humping male pup

2002-11-06 Thread jean cheesman
Hi Jackie, I have a 12 weeks old male bernese. He has started to hump peoples legs ? Why would he being doing this ? He seems to be more attracted to males rather than females when he does this ? I know its not a sexual thing I am thinking its more of a dominance thing. Agree this is

Re: Seasonal gardening disorder?

2002-11-06 Thread jean cheesman
What is it about a little snow that makes a previously very well-behaved Berner completely lose his mind and think that it's appropriate to dig up the bulbs and uproot established plants? Dreaming on those really deep snow drifts that they can tunnel in and make a way through for their humans

car restraint

2002-11-06 Thread S. Walquist and J. Patenaude
Hi--I was wondering what type of car restraints you all might use. Our car is too small for a crate. Previously we have used a harness that attached directly to the seat belt, but did not afford our dog much freedom of movement. I just bought the Doggie Catcher; has anyone had experience with

Re: BERNER-L digest 4100

2002-11-06 Thread The Livingstons
Thank you for the messages, but they are just email addresses. How do I find the articles to read ?? Thanks for your time. Sande - Original Message - From: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernese Mountain Dog Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,

puppy sort of rescue - northern New Jersey

2002-11-06 Thread Margobaderyjcc
A teacher in my daughter's school got a berner pup a few weeks ago for a surprise gift from her husband and realizes now that she can't take care of it. She has a newborn baby and a 10 year old Golden Retriever and the pup is just too much for her. He's a 10 week old male that her husband

Viability of Frontline Plus

2002-11-06 Thread Maria Crifasi
Since it has been raining fairly steadily (after a long, long period of drought), we are pulling off a record number of dog ticks! Some are alive but most are dead. One was found, bloated, on the floor. The last time I dosed my dogs was August 22. Frontline advises a one-a-month application

Re: Viability of Frontline Plus

2002-11-06 Thread BernerFrog
I was wondering the same thing too. I found two dead engorged deer ticks on the floor, one on my puppy, one on one cat and 7 ticks in various states of engorgement(?) on my old cat. I put Frontline Plus on all three pets in mid-October. I couldn't sleep that night - I was so itchy!! -

Re: Microchips

2002-11-06 Thread BernerFrog
My vet discouraged me from microchips. She said that not many places had scanners and that my dog would have to be anesthetized because the needle is so big. I'm wondering if the chips have changed and she isn't up to date on them. I still want to get one done. - Original Message -

Re: Microchips

2002-11-06 Thread Lucy Yogi
I would think your vet is either out of date, or doesn't have the technology/experience with microchips. More and more places have scanners now. Your dog would not need to be anesthetized! It's just like getting a vaccine - the needle is large, but no larger than a good sized IV needle.

Flexis

2002-11-06 Thread Lucy Yogi
I love my flexis, especially for long walks in areas like conservation areas and hiking trails where the dogs must be leashed, as they do allow the dogs to sniff and act like dogs without walking right beside me the whole time - but I have found that I need to replace them after about a year.

Re: Innova question (cats)

2002-11-06 Thread Lucy Yogi
FWIW - I like Innova and my dog did well on it. My cats did not. I fed Iams to everyone for five years, but switched after learning more about Innova. About a year after I made the switch, one of my cats became VERY sick with bladder stones and required surgery. About the same time another

Congrats 6 month old TD!

2002-11-06 Thread Clark Kris Osojnicki
I would like to congratulate Brighteye Shooting Star (Hayley) and Denise McClure for earning Haley's TD at 6 months 2 weeks of age. Denise told me that they were certified at 4 months, and were just waiting until she turned 6 months to enter a TD test, which she passed with flying colors!

RE: vet in Los Altos area

2002-11-06 Thread Mary Dawn DeBriae
Hi! We also live in the area, and Dr. Shea, at the Los Gatos Dog and Cat hospital is excellent. He has treated and looked after many Berners in the area, including the famous Bosco of Los Gatos Bears in the Wood. Our dogs, like yours with Dr. Kennedy, Wendi, absolutely enjoy their visits to the

Slowing down a greedy eater

2002-11-06 Thread Vicky Whitney
ORIGINAL POST (snipped): There are many ways to slow down a greedy eater and my favourite has been to use my large puppy dish that is raised in the middle, or you can use a large flat pan with a large rock in the middle. Rose Tierney RESPONSE: Well, Rose, I've just stumbled on yet ANOTHER way

New Berner UD!!

2002-11-06 Thread Clark Kris Osojnicki
I would like to congratulate Alison Jaskiewicz, and Kepler (Ledgewood's Warning Barque) on earning their UD this past weekend! Alison and Kepler earned this title in just 5 trials! For leg #3 they were in a run-off, and had perfect 0 points off heeling for the run-off!! Way to go Alison and

Micro Chips.

2002-11-06 Thread Ray Pat Burgett
Why in the world would a vet want too put a dog to sleep to insert a chip ( Make more Money?? We do our pups at 8 weeks of age when we do the evaluations and only once have we even had one bleed. They may yip a little but no after affects.Yes the needle is large, I know I would not want it stuck

Just a cute story

2002-11-06 Thread lesliep996
I was hiking with my 4 year-old son, Logan, and my 1 year-old girl, Kipper, when we came upon a group of boys hiking. The all loved Kipper and asked what kind of dog she was. My son proudly stated, She's a Bermountainese dog. He is now telling everyone that he has a Bermountainese dog at home.

RE: BERNER-L digest 4101

2002-11-06 Thread Michael P. Doman
May I be temporarily removed from your daily e-mail list? Although I appreciate the list of articles being sent to me each day, I am finding that the information I am receiving is far more than I need. Thank you. Michael Doman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-

Re: Microchips

2002-11-06 Thread BMDwags
Hi Everyone- I microchipped all 3 of my cats as they were walking across my kitchen floor using the AVID chip. Yes...the needle is huge, however it is also VERY sharp and glides underneath the skin rather effortlessly. We often microchip young pups on their first vaccination visit at the

Re: Looking for vet

2002-11-06 Thread BernerFolk
In a message dated 11/6/2002 3:06:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Proper positioning means everything. OTOH... g My regular vet, a typical suburban practice (ie: not a lot of breeders), did hip xrays for me under full anesthesia. OFA wan't happy with the positioning

Re: re; Innova - HATE IT!

2002-11-06 Thread Leon Lesley Rouillier
Judy, How unfortunate. We have had exactly the opposite experience. All our puppies leave here with Innova adult being the first recommended kibble to the new owners (we do prefer raw). The stats for orthepedics of these dogs has been everything a breeder could hope for. Of course, there

Giant Bernese at Costco

2002-11-06 Thread Coral and David Denis
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info on pugs

2002-11-06 Thread lizmurray
Hi All, I have a co-worker whose husband wants a pug and is likely to buy the first one he comes across. I'm trying to get them in touch with some responsible pug people. Does anyone have any experience with this breed and can you direct me to some good resources/mentors? Thanks Liz Murray

Lawns for dogs

2002-11-06 Thread Vicky Whitney
On another list, the subject of female dog urine killing grass has come up, and someone mentioned using clover instead of grass. My husband and I are currently arguing about that (the argument's been ongoing for almost 4 years now). Six years ago, when we built our house, we put in a 25x35

Microchips vs Tattoos

2002-11-06 Thread VetTec4BMD
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Re: re; Innova - HATE IT!

2002-11-06 Thread Jeff Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners
From: Mary-Ann Bowman bad orthopedics are not caused by food -- it is in the genes I am afraid. Mary-Ann and all, I have to totally disagree that bad orthopedics are not/can not be caused by food. While heredity is a major factor you can *cause* orthopedic problems in a sound puppy, from sound

Re: re; Innova - HATE IT!

2002-11-06 Thread Mary-Ann Bowman
I am very interested in the evidence you have to support those conclusion -- not personal opinion because that is always swayed by what we would like to believe -- but some real evidence. The OFA reports this on their website: Can Environment or Food Cause or Prevent HD? No, hip dysplasia is a

National Reasearch Council's Nutrient Requirements of Dogs (NRC).

2002-11-06 Thread Jeff Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners
I am very interested in the evidence you have to support those conclusion CANINE NUTRITION: A Practical Approach to Feeding Dogs and Puppies THE CONTROVERSY OF CANINE NUTRITION Want to incite a riot among an otherwise amiable group of dog breeders, commercial nutritionists, veterinarians and pet

Re: hip and elbow dysplasia

2002-11-06 Thread Jeff Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners
Relationship of Nutrition to Developmental Skeletal Disease in Young Dogs for Veterinary Clinical Nutrition, Volume 4, Number 1, 1997, Published by Veterinary Practice Publishing Company, P.O. Box 4457, Santa Barbara, CA 93140, Phone - 805-965-1028, Fax - 805-965-0722. Relationship of Nutrition

Lawns for dogs

2002-11-06 Thread EmilyJayne . Drew
Hi Vicky, I too have a similar problem with a male dog (10 months), he has left brown patches on my lawn (has not learnt to raise his leg), my backyard has large craters which you have to me careful not to twist your ankle in and lastly he has destroyed my watering system. My partner and i have

Re: Congrats 6 month old TD!

2002-11-06 Thread Marjie
Clark Kris Osojnicki wrote: Anyone know of a Berner who earned her TD younger than 6 1/2 months?? Don't know about a younger one. I know of a mother/son combination that passed their TDs on the **same** day!! That's gotta be a first! Marjie

RE: Micro-Chip info

2002-11-06 Thread Esther Wilson
Melissa, I enjoyed your recent post about micro-chips.I always enjoy reading a vet's post. I thought you'd like access to some updated information available. Current Microchips on the market that I'm aware of include: AVID ---as you said, perhaps most commonly used Home Again (Destron) InfoPET

Re: hip and elbow dysplasia

2002-11-06 Thread Mary-Ann Bowman
My dearest Pat While I admire your diplomacy (as always :), saying that diet and exercise will make a problem worse is very different from suggesting that diet causes hip and elbow dysplasia. Why does it matter? Because when breeders hide behind the belief that diet causes hip and elbow

Re: hip and elbow dysplasia

2002-11-06 Thread Jeff Mary Chapdelaine - SnoBear berners
Mary-Ann wrote: Because when breeders hide behind the belief that diet causes hip and elbow dysplasia, it gives them an excuse not to accept responsibility for the problems that many, many berner owners live with each day. Exactly which breeders are you speaking of here in your quote We

Re: re; Innova - HATE IT!/ Now Hips/Elbows

2002-11-06 Thread Ray Pat Burgett
Here is question. If a puppy x-rayed 12 months would have fair hips. What would that puppy have at 12 months if it had been jogged with its owner on sidewalks or blacktop roads at a very young age. My guess is that its hips would be worse than fair. That is just my opinion for what's its worth.

OT: Methodist Hospital Email Greeting service

2002-11-06 Thread Patricia Tackett
I found the email greeting for Methodist Hospital, anyone wishing to send get well wishes to Liz Patschke (she's in room D761) can go to this site and fill out the form. The hospital prints out and sends to patients room. http://www.methodisthealth.com/egreeting/tmh.htm Pat Tackett Texas

Re: re; Innova - HATE IT!

2002-11-06 Thread Annes4
In a message dated 11/06/2002 3:39:19 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mind you, I am not saying that is what you are doing but I for one am rather tired of hearing excuses for bad orthopedics, and I am especially sick of hearing it blamed on the owners (bad food, jumped

Re: Lawns for dogs

2002-11-06 Thread Gail Miller
I remember my sister being at my house once, looked out the kitchen window and said Your yard is just DIRT. Trying to have a fancy yard, inside your dogs' yard is probably impossible. I live on 11.5 acres, 1/4 acre is fenced around the house and 5 more acres of reclaimed horse pasture is fenced

The Importance of XRay Positioning

2002-11-06 Thread Pat Long Paul Dangel
Forwarded in plain text for Sherry: I can not agree more with this statement..When I sell puppies I ask that they be x-rayed and the films sent to me.. I then include the films in a litter packet and send them on to OFA. I have to tell you that I have seen MANY films that have been sent to me by

Re: BERNER-L digest 4102

2002-11-06 Thread KSchulz2
Well Bub Gage strikes again! My sister just called me from a local hair salon her friend owns. Some lady brought in 4 week old puppies without their mother. She stated she purchased a male Berner (bred by Bub Gage) from a pet store and decided to breed him with her Shepard/Lab mix. It gets

Re: Question about X-Rays for Pregnant Bitch

2002-11-06 Thread Mary-Ann Bowman
I know lots of people do x-ray prior to whelping, and my understanding is that the risk to the pups is minimal. I elected not to x-ray because of the following: 1. Minimal risk is still risk; 2. Not 100% accurate anyway; and 3. A medical procedure for bitch -- I do not think she needed that

Re: re; Innova - HATE IT!

2002-11-06 Thread Eileen Morgan
My three were all fed Innova as puppies. Mic and Nessie have excellent hips and Lliira good hips. Eileen Morgan The Mare's Nest http://www.enter.net/~edlehman - Original Message - From: mtndog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every dog I have ever seen fed as a puppy on Innova has orthopedic problems.

Moses' femur bony lesion biopsy results

2002-11-06 Thread Lisa D Allen
I am as devastated as I can possibly be. I am in shock. Perhaps I am existing in a realm beyond grief, now. How could this happen to a boy who spends every minute of each new day in celebration of life? Is nothing fair in the universe? I know that my strength will return in the days that

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2002-11-06 Thread rgamroth01
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