Re: [Bes-admins] SQL Database Move
Follow along with RIM's guidelines here and things should go smoothly. I've done this move several times, and downtime is very minimal. In my case, the users didn't even know it happened. (or they were just quiet about it!) http://www.port3101.org/featured-blackberry-kb-articles/133-kb03112-how-move-besmgmt-database-new-sql-server-instance.html From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com [mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Gargano, Steve Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:41 AM To: 'A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.' Subject: [Bes-admins] SQL Database Move For those of you who have moved their sql database before, was it a hard thing to do or was it as simple as moving the database and changing the odbc settings on the bes server? Was there any down time involved? Thanks. Steve Gargano Network Specialist One Centennial Square Haddonfield, NJ 08033 Direct Dial: 856-354-3039 Help Desk: 856-354-3062 Fax: 856-795-0574 sgarg...@archerlaw.commailto:sgarg...@archerlaw.com www.archerlaw.comhttp://www.archerlaw.com [cid:image001.gif@01CA7C99.F47C0750]http://www.archerlaw.com IRS Circular 230 Disclaimer: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) voiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code, or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL TRANSMISSION IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF YOU ARE NOT THE INTENDED RECIPIENT OF THIS EMAIL, DO NOT READ, DISTRIBUTE OR REPRODUCE THIS TRANSMISSION (INCLUDING ANY ATTACHMENTS). IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER BY TELEPHONE OR EMAIL REPLY. inline: image001.gif___ Bes-Admins mailing list Bes-Admins@dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins -
Re: [Bes-admins] SQL Database Move
Check the docs. There are specific things you must do on the SQL server (including some scripts which modify things outside the BES DB.) Simply moving the database won't work. On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Gargano, Steve sgarg...@archerlaw.comwrote: For those of you who have moved their sql database before, was it a hard thing to do or was it as simple as moving the database and changing the odbc settings on the bes server? Was there any down time involved? Thanks. *Steve Gargano** Network Specialist* One Centennial Square Haddonfield, NJ 08033 Direct Dial: 856-354-3039 Help Desk: 856-354-3062 Fax: 856-795-0574 sgarg...@archerlaw.com www.archerlaw.com [image: Archer Greiner, P.C.] http://www.archerlaw.com IRS Circular 230 Disclaimer: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) voiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code, or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL TRANSMISSION IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF YOU ARE NOT THE INTENDED RECIPIENT OF THIS EMAIL, DO NOT READ, DISTRIBUTE OR REPRODUCE THIS TRANSMISSION (INCLUDING ANY ATTACHMENTS). IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER BY TELEPHONE OR EMAIL REPLY. ___ Bes-Admins mailing list Bes-Admins@dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins - ___ Bes-Admins mailing list Bes-Admins@dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins -
Re: [Bes-admins] SQL Database Move
In our case, the DB move went very smoothly. However, as Michael and Rich have both asserted to, the new SQL server needs to have the BES scheme updated in its master tables or something like that. To get around that we simply allowed BES to create a new database on the destination SQL server, then swapped the configuration to use our live BES DB again. Good luck. Richard PS Should be no appreciable downtime from a user perspective. From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com [mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Gargano, Steve Sent: 14 December 2009 13:41 To: 'A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc.' Subject: [Bes-admins] SQL Database Move For those of you who have moved their sql database before, was it a hard thing to do or was it as simple as moving the database and changing the odbc settings on the bes server? Was there any down time involved? Thanks. Steve Gargano Network Specialist One Centennial Square Haddonfield, NJ 08033 Direct Dial: 856-354-3039 Help Desk: 856-354-3062 Fax: 856-795-0574 sgarg...@archerlaw.commailto:sgarg...@archerlaw.com www.archerlaw.comhttp://www.archerlaw.com [cid:image001.gif@01CA7CD4.63047D30]http://www.archerlaw.com IRS Circular 230 Disclaimer: To ensure compliance with requirements imposed by the IRS, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) voiding penalties under the Internal Revenue Code, or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any transaction or matter addressed herein. INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THIS E-MAIL TRANSMISSION IS PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL. IF YOU ARE NOT THE INTENDED RECIPIENT OF THIS EMAIL, DO NOT READ, DISTRIBUTE OR REPRODUCE THIS TRANSMISSION (INCLUDING ANY ATTACHMENTS). IF YOU HAVE RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL IN ERROR, PLEASE IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY THE SENDER BY TELEPHONE OR EMAIL REPLY. inline: image001.gif___ Bes-Admins mailing list Bes-Admins@dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins -
Re: [Bes-admins] SQL Database
I agree with Rich Don. You've outgrown MSDE long ago. You'd want to have the SQL database/server in the same data center. If it's in a remote data center, then you would ideally want to have a redundant network path to get to it. In case of an outage, the BES can operate ok without being able to access the DB for a short time - though you wouldn't be able to add/delete/modify users until the DB came back online. We're using MS SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition - SP2. The server is in the same data center as our 3 BES (4.1.6 MR5) 3 Exchange 2007 SP1 servers. 1800 BlackBerry's Get the DBA's to buy off on it, and it's really easy. RIM doesn't tend to make a lot of changes to the DB except in the major releases... 4.0, 4.1 5.0. Sometimes a service pack will have a DB modification, though it's rare (imho). Always read the release notes and if there's a change to the DB, get the DBA's involved. See these two kb's for the supported versions of SQL Microsoft SQL Server software versions supported by BlackBerry Enterprise Server software http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB15682 What is the compatibility of BlackBerry Enterprise Server software versions 4.0 and 4.1 with Microsoft SQL Server 2005 http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB11158 kind regards, Trevor From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com [mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Moller, Doreen Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:21 AM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. Subject: [Bes-admins] SQL Database Hi Everyone, Do you know if it is desirable to have the SQL database on a separate server or is it best to have the SQL database local. Our Company deploys SQL Server farms. Our BES has almost 900 users and is on MSDE. We need to migrate to full blown SQL. We are running BES 4.1.6 for MS Exchange. Also what version of SQL are supported? Trying to plan a strategy crashed last weekend and I think we have outgrown MSDE. As usual everyone's help is greatly appreciated. Thanks! Doreen Moller Lead Analyst, Infrastructure - Mobility Schering-Plough Corp 908-473-3627 (Summit) doreen.mol...@spcorp.commailto:doreen.mol...@spcorp.com * This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosure, copying, use or distribution of the information included in this message is prohibited -- Please immediately and permanently delete. /PREp style=font-family:arial;color:grey style=font-size:13pxThis message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Capgemini Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message./pPRE ___ Bes-Admins mailing list Bes-Admins@dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins -
Re: [Bes-admins] SQL Database
Thank you so much for the detailed response. I am going to get our DBA's involved and get cracking on this upgrade. Its hard to get things to happen fast in my company so this has been a bit procrastinated. But we crashed last week so now there is no time to play. From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com [mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Vance, Trevor K Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:39 PM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. Subject: Re: [Bes-admins] SQL Database I agree with Rich Don. You've outgrown MSDE long ago. You'd want to have the SQL database/server in the same data center. If it's in a remote data center, then you would ideally want to have a redundant network path to get to it. In case of an outage, the BES can operate ok without being able to access the DB for a short time - though you wouldn't be able to add/delete/modify users until the DB came back online. We're using MS SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition - SP2. The server is in the same data center as our 3 BES (4.1.6 MR5) 3 Exchange 2007 SP1 servers. 1800 BlackBerry's Get the DBA's to buy off on it, and it's really easy. RIM doesn't tend to make a lot of changes to the DB except in the major releases... 4.0, 4.1 5.0. Sometimes a service pack will have a DB modification, though it's rare (imho). Always read the release notes and if there's a change to the DB, get the DBA's involved. See these two kb's for the supported versions of SQL Microsoft SQL Server software versions supported by BlackBerry Enterprise Server software http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB15682 What is the compatibility of BlackBerry Enterprise Server software versions 4.0 and 4.1 with Microsoft SQL Server 2005 http://www.blackberry.com/btsc/KB11158 kind regards, Trevor From: bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com [mailto:bes-admins-boun...@dataoutages.com] On Behalf Of Moller, Doreen Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 8:21 AM To: A list for BES Admin's to discuss issues, etc. Subject: [Bes-admins] SQL Database Hi Everyone, Do you know if it is desirable to have the SQL database on a separate server or is it best to have the SQL database local. Our Company deploys SQL Server farms. Our BES has almost 900 users and is on MSDE. We need to migrate to full blown SQL. We are running BES 4.1.6 for MS Exchange. Also what version of SQL are supported? Trying to plan a strategy crashed last weekend and I think we have outgrown MSDE. As usual everyone's help is greatly appreciated. Thanks! Doreen Moller Lead Analyst, Infrastructure - Mobility Schering-Plough Corp 908-473-3627 (Summit) doreen.mol...@spcorp.com mailto:doreen.mol...@spcorp.com * This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosure, copying, use or distribution of the information included in this message is prohibited -- Please immediately and permanently delete. This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Capgemini Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message. * This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosure, copying, use or distribution of the information included in this message is prohibited -- Please immediately and permanently delete. ___ Bes-Admins mailing list Bes-Admins@dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutages.com/mailman/listinfo/bes-admins http://www.dataoutages.com http://www.dataoutagenews.com RSS Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bes-admins -
