for free
buffet where you come and just take.
And don’t be mistaken - I was not helping you specifically, I was just
disputing your claim that BIND 9.18 takes more memory than 9.16 because that
claim didn’t match our own measurements.
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Sorry, but you are being too terse. What is DNS setup? Which website? What
*exactly* are you doing? Would you be able to help yourself with such little
information you gave us?
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There’s no generic tool. The one that was mentioned in the article was tailored
for that specific bug in jemalloc.
In any case, the article is only tangential to the topic here. It talks about a
issue in the jemalloc that was triggered by a specific code in named.
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> On 26. 7. 2022, at 1:02, Boian Bonev via bind-users
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> For the Dev
Could you for the purpose of the debugging share the DNS traffic between the
phone device and the resolver?
I think stepping back a little might help debug the issue. Perhaps people on
the list might notice something that might help.
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some memory as compared to the default system
allocator
2. our expectations are to go even lower during the 9.19/9.20 development
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r defaults for dig via ${HOME}/.digrc. This file
is read and any options in it are applied before the command line arguments.
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articular issue. They were crippling the TTL to 0 in the wrong
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lly go with VPN as a first option.
Other than that this is classical example of GIGO (garbage in, garbage out).
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From top of my head - try setting the max-cache-size to infinite. The internal
views might still pre-allocate some stuff based on available memory.
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Pull the memory stats from the statschannel (json or xml). Also make sure you
run 9.18 with jemalloc (you can use jemalloc with 9.16, but it needs to be
linked explicitly with LDFLAGS or pre-loaded).
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I am actually thinking the similar thing that the COPR is being filtered from
where you are. Try gnutls-cli to connect to the site whether it gives you the
correct cert and everything.
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toring software.
Also monitoring DNS traffic on the mirror doesn’t tell you anything **how** the
DNS server sees the queries, so dnstap is going to be better solution for most
deployments.
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atsoever.
Modern systems are usually managed by using software from packages. However,
the broad topic of system administration is out of topic for this list.
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t people should not write their own DNS server
if they can’t implement it properly, but hey that’s what we have on the
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as EDNS
Can **you** tell if the problem why the server didn’t respond was IPv6 and not
EDNS over IPv6?
It’s impossible to tell whether the IPv4 and IPv6 addresses are handled on the
same machine
not to mention same software.
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> On 1. 8. 2022, at 18:40, John W. Blue via bind-users
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-> configure ->
> make -> make install. All default values.
I’ll try that. I have a custom script that tweaks some values (you can see that
in the log snippets I sent).
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memory usage with 9.18+.
But I see a common pattern here. I think both you and the OP were using
CentOS/RHEL 7 which is using GCC 4.8.
GCC was improved significantly since then. I would suggest to repeat the
experiment on RHEL 9 if you can reproduce the same results.
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ocated in named,
or is this allocated in the libraries?
> Should the memory reduction apply to our experiment?
The question doesn’t really make sense. We have not measured any increase in
our test scenarios,
which doesn’t mean you can’t find different scenarios with a memory increase.
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> On 2. 8. 2022, at 0:29, Grant Taylor via bind-users
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intention and
whether it’s a typo in the network or in the bits - did the origin author meant
10.10.0.0-10.10.1.255 or 10.20.1.0-10.10.1.255 or something completely else
(like 10.10.1.0-10.10.2.255 based on wrong assumption?)
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It's little bit similar with libuv - you will be better running with latest
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but you can get away with older versions too.
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First of all, the latest published version is 9.18.6, so why would you use a
version that's ~two months old?
Second, ISC does publish packages for EPEL, it's all listed here:
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The netmgr unit tests are not meant to run fully in the CI as some of it are
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You might want to set the CI=true environment variable to reduce the set of the
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Then run only the system tests by running make check only in the
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y advantage from shared cache will be lost because
the extra latency caused by communication with the MongoDB (or any other no-sql
systems).
Perhaps, describing the use case first (why do you want to use MongoDB at all)
might have the benefit of not wasting time on your end.
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at’s wrong. 10.60.0.0/23 means 10.60.0.0 to 10.60.1.255 range.
> How do I configure this ACL in named.conf.local so that it takes the whole
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Correctly specified range (without address/host bits) does takes the whole
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should be collected in the newly created GitLab issue.
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> On 27. 9. 2022, at 16:09, Prasanna Mathivanan (pmath
What you are really saying that we should dance how tech giants whistle, and I
don’t think succumbing to tech giants is a good strategy long term.
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as well as to the code. The
documentation is equally important as correct code, and we are not operator
ourselves, so we might miss few things.
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> On 20. 10. 2022, at 13:49, Andreas S. Kerber wr
all EDNS0 incompatible servers and loosing customers to 8.8.8.8
> - which is able to resolve these names..
This is kind of moot argument - the DNS needs to evolve, and it can't evolve if
we keep supporting broken stuff. This needs to be fixed on the authoritative
operator side, not in BIND 9
You need to be more specific with real examples.
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> On 26. 10. 2022, at 17:41, Veronique Lefebure
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Or cache snooping behaves differently between two (or multiple) queries.
That’s why questions like this should not imply where the problem is but rather
describe what can be seen (possibly also on the wire).
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> On 27. 10. 2022, at 10:12, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
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>>
>>
No, the tools and named use the same internal libraries, so it doesn’t help to
have “just tools”. You can keep using the last version of dig.exe, nobody can
take this from you. It’s very unlikely that there will be serious security
vulnerability (RCE) in dig.
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might always be inconsistent between the queries.
But same thing can in theory happen even on same server. The cached entry might
get evicted from cache either by memory pressure or by administrator.
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> On 23. 9. 2022, at 15:17, JAHANZAIB SYED wrote:
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> I am
ase tone down on the snarkiness. I get it that you might be frustrated, but this mailing list is not a place to vent off your frustration.Ondrej--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours.O
e user that named runs under and try
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> On 14. 10. 20
Petr,
care to prepare a MR for this? After all, it's RedHat who is making us all to
go through this mess.
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Not really. Using ECDSA (or EdDSA) CSK is pretty lightweight even during
rollover.
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> On 3. 8. 2022, at 19:10, Peter wr
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We are refactoring the database for storing the resource records in 9.20 and
it's probably better spent time to work on the refactoring than look at this.
As usual, we would accept any well commented and well thought patches.
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I don’t see jemalloc anywhere in your setup scripts. Preferably use the latest
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What Emmanuel said…
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> On 4. 8. 2022, at 19:15, Emmanuel Fusté wrote:
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> Le 04/08/2022 à 17:48, Dmitri Pavlov a écrit
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> On 1. 8. 2022, at 16:14, Doug Whitfield wrote:
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> as monitored from "top" RES value
Please read the whole thread on measuring the real consumed memory.
The '“top” RES value' has little or no value at all.
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Hi,running latest upstream version first might save you some time, it’s this:named can create unrecoverable managed-keys.jnl file (#2895) · Issues · ISC Open Source Projects / BIND · GitLabgitlab.isc.orgOndrej--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working hours and your working hours may be different
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- `dscp`
We plan to mark the options as deprecated in BIND 9.16 and 9.18 and remove it
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the warning in BIND 9.18 to notify users
that skip versions.
3. BIND 9.22 will be release in early 2026
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It's generally better to pull the server statistics via statistics channel via
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Hi Bob,
no manually configured bind.keys file is needed. Just don't provide one and
correct compiled-in
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, your 243 is actually 244 (first label also have to have length) + 4 (rpz)
+ 6 (local) + 1 (root) is exactly 255.
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> On 8. 12. 2022, at 7:57, Ben Bridges wrote:
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> When you say “ISC packages”, are you referring to the packages in the
> ppa:isc/bind repository on launchpad?
Yes, you can find the links here: https://www.isc.org/download/
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he DS record when you move between
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I don't know if this is the case with .nl, but I just know that it might happen.
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> On 16. 12. 2022, at 7:26, Vikas Sharma wrote:
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>
BIND 9 version.
I am open to any suggestions, but I think the having a GitLab
issue would be a better venue to record any ideas around the
plugin system.
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> On 15. 12. 2022, at 20:10, Marcus Kool wrote:
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> I have written
I think it would be useful if you read the documentation on the feature before we continue this thread. Guessing what the feature is or isn’t does not help helpful discussion.8. Configuration Reference — BIND 9 9.18.9 documentationbind9.readthedocs.ioThanks,--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working
The default EDNS0 buffer size has changed to 1232, how big is the response when
you use dig?
Perhaps increasing the edns buffer sizes would be a way out?
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> On 30. 11. 2022, at 11:03, Tom wrote:
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> Does someone of ISC agree? If so, I'll file a bug.
Please do. A MR or patch would be even better ;-)
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> On 30. 11. 2022, at 20:00, Hamid Maadani wrote:
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> > Weird. Please sen
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
example.nil.3600IN NS example.nil.
;; Query time: 0 msec
;; SERVER: 10.53.0.1#5300(10.53.0.1) (UDP)
;; WHEN: Thu Dec 01 17:04:17 CET 2022
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 98
This is from the example driver located in the system tests
(bin/tests/system/dlzexter
> test.com <http://test.com/>. 0 IN A 10.10.10.10
I think this line just have it all - you are generating record with TTL 0.
> ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
FTR it's an authoritative answer.
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perhaps something will stand out
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Yes, it is.
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> On 27. 1. 2023, at 19:07, Elias Pereira wrote:
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> hi,
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> Is this doc
> On 5. 1. 2023, at 14:46, Robert M. Stockmann wrote:
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> On Thu, 5 Jan 2023, [utf-8] Ondřej Surý wrote:
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>> There's an alternative plan that would include re-implementing the
>> functionality, but there would have to be strong user case behind the
>> work. Bu
The IPv4 reverse zone is easy to scrape and stored for situations like this…
just saying.
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> On 5. 11. 2022, at 0:48, Gr
ldd` might give you some hints.
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> On 6. 11. 2022, at 16:27, Niall O'Reilly wrote:
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> Building BIND 9.18.8 from
ften even if not very recently?
How do you know it's a garbage?
One woman's trash is another woman's treasure...
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That's not any different than wildcard record in a forward zone. The resolvers
already have to deal with garbage in the cache and cache eviction algorithms.
The DNS server doesn't live among rainbows and unicorns, so we prepare for the
worst to come from network, not the best.
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is too small
by default. To limit the amount of memory used by the
server, use the ``max-cache-size`` and ``recursive-clients`` options
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Hi Anand,
correct me if I am wrong, but the VERSION.SERVER doesn't seem to be anywhere
documented[1], and you are the first one to request it[2].
1. RFC 4892 only talks about ID.SERVER
2. Please create a GitLab issue for tracking
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It’s `also-notify ;` and `notify explicit;`
The online documentation is here:
https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/v9_16_34/reference.html
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resolver still has to revalidate the answer, and there's no
point in appending records that would be thrown away anyway.
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al * CNAME;
};
e.g. you need to quote the path.
The documentation is silent on NAME field, but I would suggest using either *
or . as placeholder.
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> I am not sure how to start debugging this. Can anyone help?
Well, start with sharing as much details as you can. It’s hard to tell what you
are doing from a single configuration line.
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> On 23. 3. 2023, at 17:57, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
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> On 22.03.23 17:36, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>> in line with our deprecation policy, I am notifying the mailing list about
>> our intent
>> to deprecated the delegation-only and root-delegation-only options.
e destination
addresses from the AnyIP range to single local address (DNAT) or if you are
feeling really fancy I think this could be also accomplished with an eBPF rule.
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> Is there some rate liming in Bind?
https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/stable/reference.html#namedconf-statement-notify-rate
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hardware compatibility than Debian’s armhf
was wrong, so you need to be careful.
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> On 25. 3. 2023, at 3:37, Andrew P. wr
that includes all the
bugfixes and security fixes is BIND 9.16.39, but our general recommendation is
to upgrade to latest 9.18 version (9.18.13 as of now).
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Hi,
look for break-dnssec in
https://bind9.readthedocs.io/en/stable/reference.html#response-policy-zone-rpz-rewriting
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s something that's impossible to answer without seeing the full
configuration (named-checkconf -px).
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e ISC BIND 9 packages,
I would recommend upgrading straight to the latest BIND 9.18 (with proper
testing, etc..).
The packages are available from:
https://www.isc.org/download/
(See the paragraph just above the table.)
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1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_Finder
2. https://circleid.com/posts/the_name_domain_disrupted_by_site_finder_patch
3.
https://www.afnic.fr/en/observatory-and-resources/news/warning-for-bind-and-delegation-only-users/
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needs to be put in place. And it’s something you don’t really do on a daily basis.Ondrej--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours.On 17. 2. 2023, at 20:34, John Thurston wrote
Why so complicated? Stop the secondary, purge the zone files and journal, and start the secondary. The zones will get retransfered as there’s no state now.--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal
://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/issues/3905
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Tom,
the ADB (Address DataBase) responsible for caching the delegations had been
heavily refactoring in 9.19 branch, I think the best course of action would be
to
fill a GitLab issue with the description, so we can follow-up there.
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> Our
the Debian being frozen for the next stable release).
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Hi,
I can confirm that it’s ok to skip 9.16 and go straight to 9.18. There’s no
need for the intermediate step. As usual, it’s recommended to do a test
migration first if you want to be extra careful.
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-policy on qname-wait-recurse and break-dnssec to turn off the default behavior.Ondrej--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours.On 8. 4. 2023, at 16:32, Matthew Gomez wrote:Hi, has
I don’t think we are ever going to implement something like this. This is a
wrong layer to fix this.
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