Re: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-12-04 Thread Danny Mayer
On 11/28/2011 4:33 PM, Bill Owens wrote: I think that if I had to use a Windows workstation my first installs would be the ISC binary kit and wireshark, since AFAIK Windows doesn't come with a packet capture program either. . . There is one. I forget what it's called. I think it's in one of

RE: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-28 Thread WBrown
Todd wrote on 11/24/2011 11:29:14 AM: I don't understand why Windows doesn't include dig by default, even now. Free software hate? And grep and logrotate! At least the GnuWin32 project has a good version of grep. Confidentiality Notice: This electronic message and any attachments may

RE: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-28 Thread Lightner, Jeff
-bounces+jlightner=water@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of wbr...@e1b.org Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 1:03 PM To: Todd Snyder Cc: bind-users-bounces+wbrown=e1b@lists.isc.org; bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: RE: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing... Todd wrote on 11/24/2011 11:29:14 AM: I don't

Re: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-28 Thread Bill Owens
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 01:03:15PM -0500, wbr...@e1b.org wrote: Todd wrote on 11/24/2011 11:29:14 AM: I don't understand why Windows doesn't include dig by default, even now. Free software hate? And grep and logrotate! At least the GnuWin32 project has a good version of grep. There

RE: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-28 Thread Spain, Dr. Jeffry A.
I don't understand why Windows doesn't include dig by default, even now. Free software hate? And grep and logrotate! At least the GnuWin32 project has a good version of grep. I think that if I had to use a Windows workstation my first installs would be the ISC binary kit and

Re: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-25 Thread Danny Mayer
On 11/24/2011 11:21 AM, Jan-Piet Mens wrote: Jeffry, I have had a tendency to dig axfr from my Windows workstation +1 to you for using `dig' on Windows; most don't even know it exists and suffer the `nslookup' pain. ;-) It comes with the Windows version of BIND9. Danny

RE: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-24 Thread Tony Finch
Spain, Dr. Jeffry A. spa...@countryday.net wrote: From time to time I want to review the current state of the zone files. I have been accustomed with v9.8 to taking a copy of a signed zone file and stripping out the DNSSEC-related records in a text editor for easy review. I use `dig axfr

Re: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-24 Thread Jan-Piet Mens
On Thu Nov 24 2011 at 13:52:32 CET, Tony Finch wrote: I use `dig axfr dotat.at | grep -v RRSIG` ... | grep -v TYPE65534 | grep -v DNSKEY | grep -v NSEC3PARAM hoping, of course, that no owner name is called 'RRSIG' et. al. ;-) -JP

Re: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-24 Thread Tony Finch
Jan-Piet Mens jpmens@gmail.com wrote: On Thu Nov 24 2011 at 13:52:32 CET, Tony Finch wrote: I use `dig axfr dotat.at | grep -v RRSIG` ... | grep -v TYPE65534 | grep -v DNSKEY | grep -v NSEC3PARAM I think it is more useful to see those records than to spend effort stripping them

Re: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-24 Thread Shumon Huque
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 02:29:05PM +0100, Jan-Piet Mens wrote: On Thu Nov 24 2011 at 13:52:32 CET, Tony Finch wrote: I use `dig axfr dotat.at | grep -v RRSIG` ... | grep -v TYPE65534 | grep -v DNSKEY | grep -v NSEC3PARAM hoping, of course, that no owner name is called 'RRSIG'

Re: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-24 Thread Chris Thompson
On Nov 24 2011, Shumon Huque wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 02:29:05PM +0100, Jan-Piet Mens wrote: On Thu Nov 24 2011 at 13:52:32 CET, Tony Finch wrote: I use `dig axfr dotat.at | grep -v RRSIG` ... | grep -v TYPE65534 | grep -v DNSKEY | grep -v NSEC3PARAM hoping, of course, that

RE: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-24 Thread Spain, Dr. Jeffry A.
dig axfr dotat.at | grep -v RRSIG. Tony. dig axfr dotat.at | grep -v RRSIG | grep -v TYPE65534 | grep -v DNSKEY | grep -v NSEC3PARAM. JP. dig axfr zone | awk '$4 !~ ^NSEC$|^NSEC3$|^RRSIG$ {print}'. Shumon. Thank you, gentlemen. These are very helpful. As we are primarily Windows users, I

Re: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-24 Thread Jan-Piet Mens
Jeffry, I have had a tendency to dig axfr from my Windows workstation +1 to you for using `dig' on Windows; most don't even know it exists and suffer the `nslookup' pain. ;-) -JP ___ Please visit

Re: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-24 Thread Tony Finch
Chris Thompson c...@cam.ac.uk wrote: If we are trying to turn Tony's ad hoc command into something publishable, See the loadzone, axfrzone, and cleanzone functions in http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/~fanf2/hermes/conf/bind/bin/nsdiff Writing code to process arbitrary zones is a rather different

RE: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-24 Thread Todd Snyder
I have had a tendency to dig axfr from my Windows workstation +1 to you for using `dig' on Windows; most don't even know it exists and suffer the `nslookup' pain. ;-) First thing I do on a new windows box is download the BIND package and throw dig on the box ... well, right after I get

RE: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-24 Thread Spain, Dr. Jeffry A.
I don't understand why Windows doesn't include dig by default, even now. Free software hate? I wonder if it some kind of intellectual property issue. Microsoft has to be able to sell Windows and therefore must consider any added costs related to including a component that they do not own

Re: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-23 Thread Evan Hunt
I did something similar, using nsupdate to modify the unsigned zone instead of a manual edit. [...] rndc reload is not necessary. `rndc reload' never is necessary if you use DDNS to update master zones. True, but in that situation 'inline-signing' isn't necessary either. -- Evan Hunt

RE: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-23 Thread Spain, Dr. Jeffry A.
=countryday@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-bounces+spainj=countryday@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of Evan Hunt Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:01 PM To: Jan-Piet Mens Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing... I did something similar, using nsupdate to modify

Re: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-23 Thread Evan Hunt
Evan: I'd like to ask for clarification. My understanding is that inline-signing yes: is necessary to cause bind to keep separate signed and unsigned zone files, and that the source of the unsigned zone file can be a disk file in the case of a master, or a zone transfer in the case of a

Re: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-23 Thread Jan-Piet Mens
On Wed Nov 23 2011 at 20:21:00 CET, Evan Hunt wrote: Correct, but... let me start by explaining the situation in releases prior to 9.9, without the inline-signing feature. And would you now kindly do all of us and all future readers a favor and copy/paste that text *verbatim* into the ARM?

RE: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-23 Thread Spain, Dr. Jeffry A.
Now, you can *also* turn on DDNS and use nsupdate on an inline-signing zone... but, if you're going to be using DDNS anyway, then I'm unclear what operational need is being served by separating the data. With or without inline-singing, your master file will be overwritten, and you'll have

Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-22 Thread McConville, Kevin
I have opened up a Bug ticket with ISC on this - #26676, but I just wanted to make sure that I'm not doing anything wrong that may be causing the issue. Has anyone been able to get inline-signing to work on a static master zone using an authoritative server? When we manually change the Master

Re: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-22 Thread Jan-Piet Mens
22-Nov-2011 11:25:28.320 general: notice: all zones loaded 22-Nov-2011 11:25:28.320 general: notice: running This looks to me as though you've cycled the server, which isn't currently allowed. Evan pointed out recently here that it can actually corrupt the zone... My experience is that, after

RE: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-22 Thread McConville, Kevin
Kevin McConville University at Albany -Original Message- From: Jan-Piet Mens [mailto:jpm...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jan-Piet Mens Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 1:02 PM To: McConville, Kevin Cc: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing... 22-Nov-2011 11:25:28.320

RE: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-22 Thread Spain, Dr. Jeffry A.
@lists.isc.org [mailto:bind-users-bounces+spainj=countryday@lists.isc.org] On Behalf Of McConville, Kevin Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:58 AM To: bind-users@lists.isc.org Subject: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing... I have opened up a Bug ticket with ISC on this - #26676, but I just

Re: Bind 9.9.0b2 inline signing...

2011-11-22 Thread Jan-Piet Mens
On Tue Nov 22 2011 at 20:34:46 CET, Spain, Dr. Jeffry A. wrote: I did something similar, using nsupdate to modify the unsigned zone instead of a manual edit. [...] rndc reload is not necessary. `rndc reload' never is necessary if you use DDNS to update master zones. -JP