Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: allocate 8 service bits for experimental use

2014-06-17 Thread Wladimir
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Wladimir laa...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Matt Whitlock b...@mattwhitlock.name wrote: On Tuesday, 17 June 2014, at 9:57 am, Wladimir wrote: Yes, as I said in the github topic (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/4351) I suggest

[Bitcoin-development] Proposals for improving Bitcoin mining decentralization

2014-06-17 Thread Raúl Martínez
First of all I apologice due to the possible mistakes in my writing below, I am not a Bitcoin developer but I have some knowledge about it. We all know the recent news, Ghash pool controlling 51% of the hashrate. While some consider it a threat others think that is not harmful. The thing

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposals for improving Bitcoin mining decentralization

2014-06-17 Thread Mistr Bigs
I have been surprised by the lack of discussion of this topic here! On 6/17/2014 10:57 AM, Raúl Martínez wrote: We all know the recent news, Ghash pool controlling 51% of the hashrate. While some consider it a threat others think that is not harmful. The thing is that we have to do something to

[Bitcoin-development] [ann] Bitcoin Core version 0.9.2 has been released

2014-06-17 Thread Wladimir
Bitcoin Core version 0.9.2 is now available from: https://bitcoin.org/bin/0.9.2/ (or https://bitcoin.org/en/download) This is a new minor version release, bringing mostly bug fixes and some minor improvements. OpenSSL has been updated because of a security issue (CVE-2014-0224). Upgrading to

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposals for improving Bitcoin mining decentralization

2014-06-17 Thread Ron Elliott
In this scenario how do you ensure the miner solving the block cannot reapportion the subsidy to himself rather than the pool? On Jun 17, 2014 2:09 AM, Raúl Martínez r...@i-rme.es wrote: First of all I apologice due to the possible mistakes in my writing below, I am not a Bitcoin developer but

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposals for improving Bitcoin mining decentralization

2014-06-17 Thread Raúl Martínez
Because he cant change the coinbase once the proof of work is done. El 17/06/2014 15:58, Ron Elliott ronaldbelli...@gmail.com escribió: In this scenario how do you ensure the miner solving the block cannot reapportion the subsidy to himself rather than the pool? On Jun 17, 2014 2:09 AM, Raúl

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposals for improving Bitcoin mining decentralization

2014-06-17 Thread Ron Elliott
as I understood your proposal the entire block would be created on the miner rather than just the block header. Currently miners do not receive a list of transactions, they receive information required to create the block header, this is how you keep miners honest. if the miner is creating the

Re: [Bitcoin-development] [ann] Bitcoin Core version 0.9.2 has been released

2014-06-17 Thread Jesus Cea
On 17/06/14 11:46, Wladimir wrote: For Linux we now build against Qt 4.6, and filter the symbols for libstdc++ and glibc. This brings back compatibility with - Debian 6+ / Tails - Ubuntu 10.04 - CentOS 6.5 Under Ubuntu 10.04: jcea@ubuntu:/tmp/bitcoin-0.9.2-linux/bin/64$ ./bitcoin-qt

Re: [Bitcoin-development] [ann] Bitcoin Core version 0.9.2 has been released

2014-06-17 Thread Wladimir
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Jesus Cea j...@jcea.es wrote: On 17/06/14 11:46, Wladimir wrote: Under Ubuntu 10.04: jcea@ubuntu:/tmp/bitcoin-0.9.2-linux/bin/64$ ./bitcoin-qt ./bitcoin-qt: symbol lookup error: ./bitcoin-qt: undefined symbol: _ZN10QTextCodec11validCodecsEv Did it work with

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposals for improving Bitcoin mining decentralization

2014-06-17 Thread Isidor Zeuner
quote: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Getblocktemplate is supposed to solve most of the pooling-centralization problems. Unfortunately, it is opt-in, and GHash.io doesn't support it. Also most miners don't care and don't do the work to set it up. To do transaction inclusion themselves, they'd

Re: [Bitcoin-development] instant confirmation via payment protocol backwards compatible proto buffer extension

2014-06-17 Thread Isidor Zeuner
quote: On 6/16/14, Mike Hearn m...@plan99.net wrote: If they decide to change to something like highest-fee-always-wins, then they (again) centralise things by forcing all instant transactions to pay GreenAddress and its competitors money - much though I like your product Lawrence, let's

Re: [Bitcoin-development] instant confirmation via payment protocol backwards compatible proto buffer extension

2014-06-17 Thread Isidor Zeuner
quote: Mike Hearn, why don't we just have all nodes report attempted double spends through the node network. No need to involve the miners at all really, or do your suggestion but also report the double spend attempt. By waiting maybe 10-60 seconds (instead of 10 minutes for first conf),

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposals for improving Bitcoin mining decentralization

2014-06-17 Thread Karel Bílek
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Christophe Biocca christophe.bio...@gmail.com wrote: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Getblocktemplate is supposed to solve most of the pooling-centralization problems. This. There is no need to create anything new when GBT already exists. In my opinion.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposals for improving Bitcoin mining decentralization

2014-06-17 Thread Raúl Martínez
But miners dont want to run full nodes, its better to develop some SPV like that connects to some nodes. Also I believe that stratum mining protocol improves some performance things that GBT lacks. If a new protocol that requires blocks created by miners is developed and named in a cool way,

[Bitcoin-development] Proposal: relax the IsStandard rules for P2SH transactions

2014-06-17 Thread Gavin Andresen
Assuming there is rough consensus, I'll make this a pull request (see https://github.com/gavinandresen/bitcoin-git/tree/relax_isstandard for code changes). Now that we are finally starting to see the use of multi-signature and other more complicated transaction forms in applications I think

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fidelity bonds for decentralized instant confirmation guarantees

2014-06-17 Thread Goss, Brian C., M.D.
Can two signed transactions using the same output as an input (ie, a double spend) be used to trigger a third transaction? It would be nice if I could sign a tx that would pay m bitcoins to an arbitrary address if and only if someone could present proof that I signed more than 1 transaction

[Bitcoin-development] CoinJoin bounty fund question

2014-06-17 Thread Odinn Cyberguerrilla
Hoping that this is the right place for this, I am asking a question as to what happens with what is in the CoinJoin bounty fund address at: http://blockchain.info/address/3M8XGFBKwkf7miBzpkU3x2DoWwAVrD1mhk (a P2SH / multisignature address) I encouraged people to donate to it in late 2013

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: allocate 8 service bits for experimental use

2014-06-17 Thread Jeff Garzik
I wrote a patch for string-based name extensions, circa 2011-2012. I agree that is preferable to unreadable bits, for reasons you cite. However, it was noted that extensions (or UUIDs etc.) would not be propagated around the network in addr messages, as service bits are. On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at

Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fidelity bonds for decentralized instant confirmation guarantees

2014-06-17 Thread Mark Friedenbach
Not with current script, but there are mechanisms by which you can do a digital signature where signing two pieces of information reveals the ECDSA k parameter, thereby allowing anyone to recover the private key and steal the coins. Practically speaking, these are not very safe systems to use.

Re: [Bitcoin-development] CoinJoin bounty fund question

2014-06-17 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Odinn Cyberguerrilla odinn.cyberguerri...@riseup.net wrote: Hoping that this is the right place for this, I am asking a question as to what happens with what is in the CoinJoin bounty fund address at: The correct place for more information is the Bitcointalk

Re: [Bitcoin-development] CoinJoin bounty fund question

2014-06-17 Thread Kristov Atlas
On 06/17/2014 06:46 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: The correct place for more information is the Bitcointalk forum thread where it was announced: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279249.0 Can anyone summarize the current status of the bounty? I see nothing definite about the bounty in that

Re: [Bitcoin-development] instant confirmation via payment protocol backwards compatible proto buffer extension

2014-06-17 Thread Tom Harding
On 6/16/2014 8:09 AM, Daniel Rice wrote: What if we solved doublespends like this: If a node receives 2 transactions that use the same input, they can put both of them into the new block as a proof of double spend, but the bitcoins are not sent to the outputs of either transactions. They

Re: [Bitcoin-development] instant confirmation via payment protocol backwards compatible proto buffer extension

2014-06-17 Thread Tom Harding
On 6/16/2014 8:48 AM, Mike Hearn wrote: In practice of course this is something payment processors like Bitpay and Coinbase will think about. Individual cafes etc who are just using mobile wallets won't be able to deal with this complexity: if we can't make native Bitcoin work well enough