Re: [Blackbelly] Colostrum question
Hi Barbara, We tried all those nipples as well and found that our took to a baby bottle with in a day or two. None of ours ever bit the ends off, they did try though. Lorean I had to force feed ours by prying their mouth open and holding their head still (on my lap). This went on for a week or more. The only nipples they liked were the yellow and red ones and it was quite a chore to change them over to the Jeffers nipples after they became too strong and chewed he yellow and red ones to bits. It was Carol who gave me the advice to put some honey in the sheep milk replacer but I still had to force them at every feeding. Ironically, twice when I left them with men for a couple of hours they were eagerly taking to the bottle when I returned. The tiny Boar (two died) I saved was very picky and liked a mix with buttermilk in it. Aloha a hui hou kaua! (Goodbye until we meet again) Barbara Heavens POB 1869, Kea`au, Hawaii 96749 (808) 968-0814 ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Colostrum question
That's interesting to know because I tried the baby bottles and it seemed the rippled part they really could suck with was further back in their mouth than the baby nipple would reach. I also liked the way the nipples screwed onto a water bottle since ours drank about 12 oz every 2 hours. This was a lot more than the prescibed amount but they always finished the bottle and were crying for more in 2 hours. They're big and healthy now so I guess it was OK. I sent for a shipment of nipples from Jeffers with the feeding tubes just to have on hand since Hilo town can have a Nipple crisis at any time. On another note my ewe refuses to go into the yard with our bossy horned goat (doe). They're now in seperate pastures but nobody seems happy especially little bottle fed Harry (goat) who grew up with them. I just brought in a ram and I'm wondering if she's just protecting herself and possible lambs. This goat is awful and as soon as she kids we'll be trading her off. Aloha a hui hou kaua! (Goodbye until we meet again) Barbara Heavens POB 1869, Kea`au, Hawaii 96749 (808) 968-0814 ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
[Blackbelly] Albinism~
Hello good list~I have a lamb (ram and a twin with one sister) that I THINK may be an albino. I have been trying to Google and find out all I can about Albinism and have not had much luck finding much of any useful information on Albinism of any kind~let alone sheep. My sheep are predominantly Black Belly but I have one purebred Polypay ewe and have several crossbreeds between her offspring and herself with the Black Belly sheep. This lamb is from a half BB and Polypay breeding mother and a Black Belly/Poly cross ram. Have any of you had any experience with or knowledge of albinism? I thought that with a true albino the eyes have to be pink/red. I am having a hard time seeing what color this boy`s eyes truly are as he is skittish with a skittish mother and he is only 2 and a half weeks old so I didn`t want to upset momma or babes any more than absolutely necessary. I THINK his eyes are blue but I am not positive... Thank you in advance~and I am going to get updated pics taken soon for any interested. Julie Pizzolato in North Idaho ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Colostrum question
We have one ram right now that is being bottle feed (Babe). His mother is the best sociable one we have but she will never feed both lambs, she always rejects one of them. But Babe is about a week old now and he is only drinking about 4 oz. every 3 hours. After see how much your drink, is that not enough. We can't get him to drink anymore than that at a time. We have two other of her that we have bottle feed in the past one ewe (Faith) and one ram (Bustard Brown) with we had castrated. we have had some tell us to get rid of her but we just love her, so we just keep her. But this set of lambs will be her last for sure. Lorean That's interesting to know because I tried the baby bottles and it seemed the rippled part they really could suck with was further back in their mouth than the baby nipple would reach. I also liked the way the nipples screwed onto a water bottle since ours drank about 12 oz every 2 hours. This was a lot more than the prescibed amount but they always finished the bottle and were crying for more in 2 hours. They're big and healthy now so I guess it was OK. I sent for a shipment of nipples from Jeffers with the feeding tubes just to have on hand since Hilo town can have a Nipple crisis at any time. On another note my ewe refuses to go into the yard with our bossy horned goat (doe). They're now in seperate pastures but nobody seems happy especially little bottle fed Harry (goat) who grew up with them. I just brought in a ram and I'm wondering if she's just protecting herself and possible lambs. This goat is awful and as soon as she kids we'll be trading her off. Aloha a hui hou kaua! (Goodbye until we meet again) Barbara Heavens POB 1869, Kea`au, Hawaii 96749 (808) 968-0814 ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Albinism~
I have had similar crosses in my sheep. What makes you suspect albinism over just a white sheep? All of my polypay/Barbados blackbelly were white. Eye color can be tricky in a young lamb. If the eyes are blue I am guessing you might truly have an albino. Mark W. Subject: [Blackbelly] Albinism~ Hello good list~I have a lamb (ram and a twin with one sister) that I THINK may be an albino. I have been trying to Google and find out all I can about Albinism and have not had much luck finding much of any useful information on Albinism of any kind~let alone sheep. My sheep are predominantly Black Belly but I have one purebred Polypay ewe and have several crossbreeds between her offspring and herself with the Black Belly sheep. This lamb is from a half BB and Polypay breeding mother and a Black Belly/Poly cross ram. Have any of you had any experience with or knowledge of albinism? I thought that with a true albino the eyes have to be pink/red. I am having a hard time seeing what color this boy`s eyes truly are as he is skittish with a skittish mother and he is only 2 and a half weeks old so I didn`t want to upset momma or babes any more than absolutely necessary. I THINK his eyes are blue but I am not positive... Thank you in advance~and I am going to get updated pics taken soon for any interested. Julie Pizzolato in North Idaho ___ ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
Re: [Blackbelly] Blackbelly Digest, Vol 5, Issue 20
I am raising almost a dozen lambs now. Different ages and reasons why. But some of them only take 4 oz every 4 or 5 hours. And they are a week or more old. I also dilute my milk a little bit making albout 18 - 20 oz instead of the 16. This keeps away scours if they do over eat a little. I also have some that are eating 7/8 oz every time. I guess it depends on the size of the lamb and its needs. I figure as long as they eat they are okay. Nancy PS My low colostrum ewe is doing great eating about 3 oz every 4 hours. She is a Jacob and is starting to grow already,. - Original Message - From: blackbelly-requ...@lists.blackbellysheep.info To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 5:01 PM Subject: Blackbelly Digest, Vol 5, Issue 20 Send Blackbelly mailing list submissions to blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.blackbellysheep.info/listinfo.cgi/blackbelly-blackbellysheep.info or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to blackbelly-requ...@lists.blackbellysheep.info You can reach the person managing the list at blackbelly-ow...@lists.blackbellysheep.info When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Blackbelly digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Colostrum question (Lorean Tadlock) 2. Re: Colostrum question (j...@netzero.net) 3. Albinism~ (Jules Pizz) 4. Re: Colostrum question (Lorean Tadlock) 5. Re: Albinism~ (The Wintermutes) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:27:39 -0600 (CST) From: Lorean Tadlock jlt...@skytex.net Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Colostrum question To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: 49466.12.154.46.174.1234448859.squir...@mail.skytex.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Hi Barbara, We tried all those nipples as well and found that our took to a baby bottle with in a day or two. None of ours ever bit the ends off, they did try though. Lorean I had to force feed ours by prying their mouth open and holding their head still (on my lap). This went on for a week or more. The only nipples they liked were the yellow and red ones and it was quite a chore to change them over to the Jeffers nipples after they became too strong and chewed he yellow and red ones to bits. It was Carol who gave me the advice to put some honey in the sheep milk replacer but I still had to force them at every feeding. Ironically, twice when I left them with men for a couple of hours they were eagerly taking to the bottle when I returned. The tiny Boar (two died) I saved was very picky and liked a mix with buttermilk in it. Aloha a hui hou kaua! (Goodbye until we meet again) Barbara Heavens POB 1869, Kea`au, Hawaii 96749 (808) 968-0814 ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:23:13 GMT From: j...@netzero.net j...@netzero.net Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Colostrum question To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: 20090212.072313.2112...@webmail14.vgs.untd.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 That's interesting to know because I tried the baby bottles and it seemed the rippled part they really could suck with was further back in their mouth than the baby nipple would reach. I also liked the way the nipples screwed onto a water bottle since ours drank about 12 oz every 2 hours. This was a lot more than the prescibed amount but they always finished the bottle and were crying for more in 2 hours. They're big and healthy now so I guess it was OK. I sent for a shipment of nipples from Jeffers with the feeding tubes just to have on hand since Hilo town can have a Nipple crisis at any time. On another note my ewe refuses to go into the yard with our bossy horned goat (doe). They're now in seperate pastures but nobody seems happy especially little bottle fed Harry (goat) who grew up with them. I just brought in a ram and I'm wondering if she's just protecting herself and possible lambs. This goat is awful and as soon as she kids we'll be trading her off. Aloha a hui hou kaua! (Goodbye until we meet again) Barbara Heavens POB 1869, Kea`au, Hawaii 96749 (808) 968-0814 -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:26:01 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: Jules Pizz ju...@foreverpugged.com Subject: [Blackbelly] Albinism~ To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Message-ID: 499477c9.69.03...@your-2f1898a83e Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello good list~I have a lamb (ram
[Blackbelly] COAST TO COAST TRANSPORTATION - SALE!!!
hello everyone! the DEC/JAN trip was quite expensive for me as far as repair costs - I am in a cash flow crunch to be able to pay for repairs plus my normal 'living' expenses during FEB/MAR - to generate the needed repair cash I am resurrecting the 'Travel Discount Coupon' program starting now and during the month of FEB I will be selling $100 discount coupons for $50 - you can purchase as many of the coupons as you desire at $50 each but only one coupon can be used at a time during the 2009/2010 transport trips - there is a workaround for this clause (see below) - the $50 purchase fee will be going directly to my equipment repair fund - I can accept Money Orders or PayPal as payment - I cannot accept personal checks for this promotion - I will mail the certificate(s) to your snail mail address - you can use them in the future as needed the $100 discount comes off of my standard transport fees calculated at the time of transport - the discount goes to the bearer of the certificate - this means that if you use the discount as part of the sales promotion of your animals you can pass a certificate off to each buyer - if I pick up animals going to multiple locations with one stop at your location then you can assign a coupon to EACH buyer - this helps your buyers and helps you sell your animals! please contact me at rkee...@realtime.net to reserve serialized coupons and to exchange snail mail addresses -- questions? Ron and Corgi co-pilot Tina (AKC) private email at rkee...@realtime.net web site at http://TravelWithRonK.com more than 2500 animals transported in 8 years of service TravelWithRonK is dedicated to coast to coast transport of small quantities of small livestock ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
[Blackbelly] MAR/APR trip is only a few weeks away!
hello everyone! reservations continue to stream in for the MAR/APR coast to coast transport trip - early reservations indicate that a west coast loop followed by an east coast loop is likely to occur - there are two large loads on the west coast going eastbound so I am likely to be on the west coast twice but there is likely to be only one east coast loop - large loads mean that my trailer space is likely to be limited eastbound remember that your early reservation is likely to be a deciding factor in determining my basic route pattern - late reservations run the risk of not being able to be included in my itinerary once a basic route is established - even if your transport need is tentative it is best to contact me as soon as possible so that I can reserve a 'route' in my mind as I start planning the economy may be tough but that just means that there are many bargains out there to be able to purchase the bloodlines you have wanted in your herd - an investment in the future of your herd is a yearlong activity - breeding stock purchased now will bring results for your sales catalog a year from now I always need pick up city/state, drop off city/state, and a brief description of the animals in every email please I do not monitor the groups closely so please reply directly to my private email address at rkee...@realtime.net payment is due on delivery - I can take cash, check, MO, and PayPal there is no contract other than your word via email Tina pulled a 'corgi' on me - she normally rides with me when I go into town - Wednesday I made her stay at home - she had such a pathetic look on her face when I pulled out of the driveway without her - when I got home several hours later no Tina - I called and called - no Tina - I drove around the neighborhood for several hours calling and asking people for sightings - no Tina - just before sunset I noticed my herd of whitetail deer coming into the yard for their daily grazing - Tina was with them! - I guess she decided to become a deer herder! - I know she was within hearing distance when I was calling so she was 'punishing' me for not taking her into town so I thought - WRONG! - Thursday afternoon I am taking a nap - when I go to sleep Tina was sleeping beside me - about 5 pm the phone rings - the lady asks are you the owner of the missing Corgi? - I say Tina came home last night - she says fine but she is here in my yard right now - I go 3/4 mile in the opposite direction that Jeremy went to pick up Tina - she jumps into the van then immediately jumps out and won't let me catch her - finally another person catches her - I take her home, she eats, drinks, and 5 minutes later is gone again! - I call, search, drive around the neighborhood for an hour - no Tina - shortly after dark she comes walking into the house as nonchalant as can be! I LOVE CORGIES! (but they can be frustrating!) -- questions? Ron and Corgi co-pilot Tina (AKC) private email at rkee...@realtime.net web site at http://TravelWithRonK.com more than 2500 animals transported in 8 years of service TravelWithRonK is dedicated to coast to coast transport of small quantities of small livestock ___ This message is from the Blackbelly mailing list Visit the list's homepage at %http://www.blackbellysheep.info
