Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia

2008-01-15 Thread The Wintermutes
Hi Renee, Sheep are notorious for over eating and wasting hay. I really don't mind the over eating but cannot afford the wasting of my hay supply. So I practice limit feeding. Limit feeding is simply defined as not feeding more than what the sheep will eat in 24 hours. If there is hay left

[Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia

2008-01-14 Thread Barb Lee
I guess my burst of enthusiasm over feeding trivia may have looked a bit obsessive and unnecessary to some, but I got a real dose of validation last night. It's pretty undeniable that we all share a common goal of wanting to add value to our animals. We know we can't manage them exactly like

Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia

2008-01-14 Thread Carol J. Elkins
Barb, what adjustment, if any, have you made to your nutritional formulas to account for the weight-at-age factor? In other words, a 100-lb pregnant blackbelly will most likely be around 1.5 to 2 years old. A 100-lb wooled sheep is generally a 5-6 month lamb. The nutritional needs and

Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia

2008-01-14 Thread Barb Lee
So, 25lbs of dry matter is about right. I have also noticed that the ones with the big bellies will raise 2 lambs without any problem. Cecil, 25 pounds of hay is more than I feed my 900 pound horses per day (each). All this foolin' around with rations has come about in the months when I

Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia

2008-01-14 Thread Barb Lee
being on time with the right stuff for the sheep in all stages of growth and production. Barb - Original Message - From: The Wintermutes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia Barb

Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia

2007-12-12 Thread Cecil Bearden
: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia Barb We had a bad year here in the Midwest and I was scared that the pasture would not carry the livestock. I offered some hay at night - one to call them in off the pasture and two it gave them alittle more to eat

[Blackbelly] feeding trivia

2007-12-12 Thread Asylum Farm
I feed BP occasionally to my sheep and the one thing I have learned the hard way is to always soak it- they will accept it eventually. I had animals that ate a bunch of dry pulp, then went over and filled up on waterjust like dogs will do after they eat their kibble. I had several lambs

[Blackbelly] feeding trivia

2007-12-12 Thread Asylum Farm
been about 20 years since I actually read them cover to cover... Shel - Original Message From: Barb Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 7:55:59 PM Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] feeding trivia Shel, Please note that the beet

Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia

2007-12-11 Thread Barb Lee
Well, I ran out some discouraging numbers this morning. As it happens, I wrote down what I was feeding the ewes in late gestation last spring/summer, although the pasture analysis was probably past prime at that time. Still, it was supposedly a major component of their diet. My

Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia

2007-12-11 Thread Barb Lee
, and thanks for your patience, Barb Lee - Original Message - From: Nate Teig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia Barb We had a bad year here in the Midwest and I was scared

[Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia - More What Ifs...

2007-12-10 Thread Barb Lee
Could be I'm just seeing things, but the lambs are cleaning up more hay since I started backing off the grain (which was not a huge quantity in the first place.) But things are beginning to fall into place. Like, for instance, their gains have fallen off from last year's lambs. What's the

Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia

2007-12-10 Thread Barb Lee
The lambs are beginning to accept beet pulp. I will have shredded B/P on Wednesday (my sheep show a marked preference for un-soaked foods). In 30 days or thereabouts, I will come back and tell you what, if any, impact going to an all forage diet has on their rate of gain. The lambs presently

Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia - More What Ifs...

2007-12-10 Thread Nate Teig
Barb I would have to agree - we flush out sheep and goats and then cut out the grain and make sure we have good quality grass hay - they comsume more hay - but get more energy out of the hay. A few years ago we had high grain bill, low conseption, and fat sheep. A rancher told us to cut the

Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia - More What Ifs...

2007-12-10 Thread Barb Lee
- From: Nate Teig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia - More What Ifs... Barb I would have to agree - we flush out sheep and goats and then cut out the grain and make sure we have good

[Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia

2007-12-09 Thread Barb Lee
Now that I've got all smart (haha!) and learned how to balance rations, I've been making some interesting observations. The NRC charts for sheep nutritional requirements show that 44 pound lambs need a total Dry Matter (food after the water's been removed) intake of 2.2 pounds per day.

Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia

2007-12-09 Thread Cecil Bearden
Barb: Just a thought: How do our blackbellies compare to deer? I am sure there some figures on deer feed consumption somewhere, just finding them. My opinion is that blackbellies forage much like deer, and their systems seem to resemble deer more than goats or wooled sheep. Deer are

Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia

2007-12-09 Thread Barb Lee
] To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Feeding Trivia Barb: Just a thought: How do our blackbellies compare to deer? I am sure there some figures on deer feed consumption somewhere, just finding them. My opinion