Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-14 Thread Guilhem Moulin
On Mon, 07 Dec 2020 at 22:13:34 +0100, Guilhem Moulin wrote: > On Fri, 04 Dec 2020 at 08:26:38 -0800, Brett Cornwall wrote: >> On 2020-12-03 11:01, Florian Effenberger wrote: >>> [...] >>> Keep in mind the decision on the repository is TEMPORARY, it is not a >>> permanent one. >> >> For how long

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-07 Thread Guilhem Moulin
Hi, On Fri, 04 Dec 2020 at 08:26:38 -0800, Brett Cornwall wrote: > On 2020-12-03 11:01, Florian Effenberger wrote: >> [...] >> Keep in mind the decision on the repository is TEMPORARY, it is not a >> permanent one. > > For how long is the freeze? The most exact information I could get was >

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-04 Thread Brett Cornwall
On 2020-12-03 11:01, Florian Effenberger wrote: [...] Keep in mind the decision on the repository is TEMPORARY, it is not a permanent one. For how long is the freeze? The most exact information I could get was "until we figure things out", which appears to be a bit vague. :) I attempted

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-03 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, on the vote count, let me explain the mechanism: We have three votes in support (Thorsten, Lothar, Cor) and we have three votes not in support (Emiliano, Daniel, Franklin). Michael abstained. One deputy (Nicolas) is in support, one deputy (Paolo) is not in support. The deputy votes,

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-03 Thread Telesto
Op 3-12-2020 om 08:31 schreef Lionel Élie Mamane: On the subject of conflict of interest, the choice made by the Statutes is _not_ to exclude "conflict of interest" votes, but to limit those to _one_ _third_. You may think that is a poor choice, you certainly can campaign for a *future*

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-03 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, on the membership status, this is something definitely up to the membership committee. This is an independent body of TDF, responsible for approval of members and responsible to oversee the BoD, and we all should definitely leave it to them how to handle the situation, and also give

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-03 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Lionel, Lionel Élie Mamane wrote: > On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 06:55:01PM +0100, Andreas Mantke wrote: > >> The Board of Directors at the time of voting consists of 7 seat > >> holders without deputies. In order to be quorate, the vote needs to > >> have 1/2 of the Board of Directors members,

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-02 Thread Lionel Élie Mamane
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 08:31:20AM +0100, Lionel Élie Mamane wrote: > (...) "Stimmengleichheit" which I would define (somewhat > redundantly) as: > Gleichheit der Zahl der für zwei oder mehr zur Wahl stehenden > Alternativen, die in dieser Wahl eine (identische) Stimmenzahl haben >

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-02 Thread Lionel Élie Mamane
On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 06:55:01PM +0100, Andreas Mantke wrote: > Am 02.12.20 um 12:23 schrieb Florian Effenberger: >> The Board of Directors at the time of voting consists of 7 seat >> holders without deputies. In order to be quorate, the vote needs to >> have 1/2 of the Board of Directors

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-02 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Daniel, On 02/12/2020 17:21, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote: > I consider that contributions to COOL, should not taken into > consideration for TDF membership. I'm sure the membership committee will take all of these things into consideration as they deliberate. If that is their decision,

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-02 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi all, Am 02.12.20 um 12:23 schrieb Florian Effenberger: > Hello, > >> 1. to freeze (not delete) the "online" repository at TDF's git, for >> the time being >> >> 1b. to switch the https://github.com/libreoffice/online mirror to >> instead mirror the Collabora repo, for the time being, and make

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-02 Thread Daniel A. Rodriguez
I consider that contributions to COOL, should not taken into consideration for TDF membership. 2 dic. 2020 12:47:18 Lothar K. Becker : > Hi Guilhem, > > thanks for your differentiated view! And let me stress again at least from my > side, this is a temporary freeze, meanwhile to engage for

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-02 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hey Guilhem, Guilhem Moulin wrote: > Could the BoD clarify the short-term period and maybe even commit to > revisit the vote say, before the end of their term? > Though I cannot speak for the entire board, the above is my understanding at least (I'd say this needs revisiting the latest in early

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-02 Thread Lothar K. Becker
Hi Guilhem, thanks for your differentiated view! And let me stress again at least from my side, this is a temporary freeze, meanwhile to engage for new or old code contributors, so that we are able to have or to maintain at least a "secure" code base for TDFs LOOL.

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-02 Thread Guilhem Moulin
Hi Florian, On Wed, 02 Dec 2020 at 12:23:22 +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote: > Result of vote: 3 approvals, 3 disapprovals, 1 abstain. > One deputy approves, one deputy disapproves. > > As the vote is a tied vote, § 9 IV of the statutes come to effect. The > Chairperson has the deciding vote,

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-02 Thread Italo Vignoli
Page has been updated, apologies On 12/2/20 3:02 PM, Lionel Élie Mamane wrote: > On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 12:23:22PM +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote: > > >> As the vote is a tied vote, § 9 IV of the statutes come to >> effect. The Chairperson has the deciding vote, and voted +1 to the >>

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-02 Thread Lionel Élie Mamane
On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 12:23:22PM +0100, Florian Effenberger wrote: > As the vote is a tied vote, § 9 IV of the statutes come to > effect. The Chairperson has the deciding vote, and voted +1 to the > proposal. Interestingly, https://www.documentfoundation.org/governance/board/ doesn't say who

Re: [board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-02 Thread Paolo Vecchi
I believe the result is suboptimal but at least it provides us with a new level of urgency to find some alternatives. Having Collabora stated its position by removing the comments that COOL is a LibreOffice project we now know that they consider the project as something completely separate from

[board-discuss] [DECISION] LibreOffice Online - repository and translations

2020-12-02 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hello, 1. to freeze (not delete) the "online" repository at TDF's git, for the time being 1b. to switch the https://github.com/libreoffice/online mirror to instead mirror the Collabora repo, for the time being, and make sure we catch pull requests there, e.g. via the mentoring alias on TDF