AW: [board-discuss] WollMux adoption proposal for The Document Foundation

2023-01-11 Thread Björn Ranft 
Hi Samuel, Hi All,



sry for my late reply, I was on the rest on my vacation.


wollmux-conf-service ist currently not used @LHM but has been prepared to 
reduce dependencies, the process is:


1) Linux/Windows - Script which reads the logged in user name

2) query username to GOsa (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOsa), read 
WollMux-Parameters from GOsa depending on the group assignment of the user. For 
a group, below wollmux parameters can be set.

3) response parameters are like:


DEFAULT_CONTEXT "http://department.wollmux.de/;
%include "http://department.wollmux.de/conf/main.conf;
%include "http://department.wollmux.de/conf/wollmuxbar_standard.conf;

4) Script (1) writes parameters in "wollmux.conf" in the user dir or further 
locations (hard coded in wollmux)
5) When WollMux starts, it reads wollmux.conf and receives the whole 
configuration for the user (group) as described by Samuel.


wollmux-conf-service would get rid of the script (read logged in username by 
Java in WollMux itself, create request to conf-service). conf-service can 
(should?) be expanded to use the assignments  in i.e. ActiveDirectory.



Regards,

Björn
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Von: Samuel Mehrbrodt 
Gesendet: Montag, 9. Januar 2023 09:23:32
An: Thorsten Behrens; TDF Board Discussion; Björn Ranft
Cc: Marina Latini
Betreff: Re: [board-discuss] WollMux adoption proposal for The Document 
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Hi,

Am 02.01.23 um 10:37 schrieb Thorsten Behrens:


- wollmux-config-service (not used in WollMux yet, might be
  effectively abandoned - Björn, what do you think?)

wollmux-conf-service is a server side helper to deliver user specific conf 
files (to avoid deploying different wollmux.conf manually).

The local wollmux config must have a URL pointing to the config server and then 
WollMux will query the given 
URL
 to retrieve the config for the current user.

So the wollmux-conf-service 
repo is still relevant and should also be migrated over to the LibreOffice 
GitHub organization.

Regards
Samuel


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AW: [board-discuss] WollMux adoption proposal for The Document Foundation

2023-01-02 Thread susanne.mohn-lo 
Hi all, 
Hi Marina, 

I have wollmux installed
With the latest released version from last year from December 30 2022, you
need JRE 11. 

I'm using Windows 11, the wollmux.conf must look like this
DEFAULT_CONTEXT "./config/"
%include "./config/conf/main.conf"
%include "./config/conf/wollmuxbar_standard.conf"

Unfortunately, not all templates are found yet, even though they are in the
correct folder. 

I don't think an extra WollMux mailing list makes not sense. This does not
promote the awareness of wollmux.
Possibly.  Perhaps mark the subject with [WollMux]?

Greetings
Susanne

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Thorsten Behrens  
Gesendet: Montag, 2. Januar 2023 13:26
An: Marina Latini 
Cc: TDF Board Discussion 
Betreff: Re: [board-discuss] WollMux adoption proposal for The Document
Foundation

Hi Marina, all,

Marina Latini wrote:
> No no, it makes sense to keep WollMux under the LibreOffice org, I 
> agree. If you are fine with the current status, can we start to work on
WollMux?
> 
I'd love to! :)

(Gabor is getting the last few handbook pages' existing German  translation
put up on the wiki; and I'll see to get at least a basic  CI job setup going
by early next week - but none of that should block  others from starting the
work)

> But, apart from WollMux... I think we could take this opportunity also 
> for a clean-up of repos in https://github.com/tdf. ;) You mentioned 
> the DLP libraries, but libcmis is hosted under the TDF organisation, 
> and, if I'm not mistaken, the libraries from the DLP aren't 
> LibreOffice only but can be reused also elsewhere.
>
Yep, that's true - Calligra, Inkscape and Scribus use at least some of them.

> Under the TDF organisation there are also other repos that should 
> probably be archived (but we are going semi off-topic now). ;)
>
Also true, e.g. when looking at website stuff. BTW, 'archiving' on github is
something conceptually very close to our atticization - we should evaluate
setting the archive flag within that framework IMO.

> We could also mention that we have the other LibreOffice organisation 
> and cross link from tdf to LibreOffice too.
>
Given that the main readme was misleading you, that's certainly useful.

> But...for this clean-up, where we can continue this discussion? this 
> list doesn't look like the right place to me. :)
> 
Doesn't feel terribly off-topic here (dev list would also not be a 100%
on-topic match, neither website or marketing? - but for very generic
discussions, there's always the global discuss list of course).

Something else - does anybody see the need for a dedicated wollmux mailing
list? I didn't ask for one (and actually try to avoid silo-ed low-traffic
email lists, and nudge people onto the main dev list), but not strictly
against one either. The old wollmux project had one at joinup IIRC, but it's
dormant since a long time.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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AW: [board-discuss] WollMux adoption proposal for The Document Foundation

2022-12-06 Thread susanne.mohn-lo 
Moin moin Stephan

Wie know this Word in the North of Germany too.
Translate it with deepl.com: 
Translate "Eierlegendewollmilchsau" : Egg Laying Wooly Pig

That is not a good name for a good tool like WollMux.

Susanne


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Von: Stephan Ficht  
Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2022 08:06
An: susanne.mohn...@kiel-pries.de; 'Marina Latini' 
; 'Samuel Mehrbrodt' 

Cc: 'Thorsten Behrens' ; 'Björn Ranft' 
; 'TDF Board Discussion' 

Betreff: Re: [board-discuss] WollMux adoption proposal for The Document 
Foundation

Servus Susanne,

=
Foreword:
I here speak in my capacity as a Member of the Board of Trustees.
=


Am 06.12.22 um 07:01 schrieb susanne.mohn...@kiel-pries.de:
> And Woll? It's the german name for wool.

AFAICS, in this case it makes reference to the German/Bavarian 
"Eierlegendewollmilchsau".
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eierlegende_Wollmilchsau
and
https://bar.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oarlengde_Woimuichsau

At the time I was involved with the City of Munich and this was the saying. But 
perhaps I am wrong.

Moin Moin :)
Stephan

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AW: [board-discuss] WollMux adoption proposal for The Document Foundation

2022-12-05 Thread susanne.mohn-lo 
Moin moin
(north german for good morning)

Does anyone know, where the wollmux comes from?
Change it to English?
MUX comes from Linux for Munic.
And Woll? It's the german name for wool. 

It wood be very nice us in Schleswig-Holstein to have this AddIn.

Susanne

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Marina Latini  
Gesendet: Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2022 01:19
An: Samuel Mehrbrodt 
Cc: Thorsten Behrens ; Björn Ranft 
; TDF Board Discussion 

Betreff: Re: [board-discuss] WollMux adoption proposal for The Document 
Foundation

On 05.12.2022 08:10, Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote:
> Hi,

Hi Samuel,
nice to read you :)

> 
>> To clarify - my expectation is, once the project would be at TDF's, 
>> that future PRs would be done in English (as the most inclusive way).
> 
> All current PRs against master are in English already.
> 
> There are a few German ones left which are against the 18.2 branch 
> which is still maintained by LHM. Over time, these should be merged or 
> closed. Sure, any contributor can port those PRs against master, and 
> then they should be filed in English of course.

Thanks for the clarification :)
And, just to spell it out, I have nothing against German, it's just that having 
PRs and issues in English could increase that chance to involve more 
contributors. But for sure, I don't want to add extra work for the maintainers 
just for having things translated from German to English ;)

>> 
>> But yeah, my preference would be switching also the existing ones to 
>> English (Samuel or Björn, what's your take here?).
> Yes, these should be converted to master (after checking they are 
> still valid).

yes, some help in closing invalid issues will be extremely valuable.

> 
> I think it does make sense to either use the Cloud version of 
> SonarQube (as we do with Coverity), or host it ourselves (up to Infra 
> team to decide). Might add value to other TDF java projects as well 
> (Java parts of LibreOffice, LOEclipse, etc).
> 

yep, from my experience, sonarcloud seems to be good too.

P.S: @Thorsten, I saw that some of the feedback we shared in this discussion 
are now listed as new GitHub issues. Thanks for that. :)

Happy hacking and have a lot of fun,
Marina

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AW: [board-discuss] WollMux adoption proposal for The Document Foundation

2022-11-23 Thread susanne.mohn-lo 
Dear all

This is a very good idea!
In order to make the Wollmux Extension available for large organizations, a
central distribution (Windows: via ActiveDirectorie or SCCM) must be
possible. As well as checking whether JAVA Runtime is installed and the
Installation/provision of a customized config. File. 
Another question: Under LO 7.4.2. I get the message when adding the
extension: Error status of the extension is not known.

Regards, 
Susanne

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Von: Thorsten Behrens  
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. November 2022 12:13
An: TDF Board Discussion 
Cc: LibreOffice ; Samuel Mehrbrodt
; Björn Ranft 
Betreff: [board-discuss] WollMux adoption proposal for The Document
Foundation

Dear community,

as announced during LibOCon, and subsequently discussed in the ESC, here's
the formal adoption proposal for the "WollMux" template / form letter / mail
merge engine / Java extension, from the City of Munich.

For reference, I attach the full proposal (so the initial version gets
archived). For interacting with it, please use this direct edit link on
Nextcloud though:

 https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/ftrSdx3A5dgmNR8

Reply-To: board-discuss please, unless there's technical questions to
discuss (for those, I copy the developer list).

Plan is to give this 1-2 weeks for discussion. Depending on the feedback,
the hope is, the proposal can then be referred to the board for a final
decision.

Looking forward to your feedback, all the best,

-- Thorsten


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