Dave said:
Shelly apparently wrote this poem in a kind of competition with poet
Horace Smith, whose poem covers the same colossal wreck with nothing
of Shelly's mystery and mastery.
As an aside, Ozymandias is a corruption of Usermaatre, one of the
names of Ramesses II, the Great. The image
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Charlie Bell wrote:
Very easily. _Homo technologia_ could be the next step,
if they form a separate breeding group from baseline humans.
Yes, and this separate breed will have no males :-P
Species change and branch and fade. That's how it is.
Ok.
We're not any different,
No, we _are_
On 26/07/2006, at 8:42 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
Very easily. _Homo technologia_ could be the next step,
if they form a separate breeding group from baseline humans.
Yes, and this separate breed will have no males :-P
Species change and branch and fade. That's how
Charlie Bell wrote:
We're not any different,
No, we _are_ different.
Species change and branch and fade, including us.
nor are we subjected to different biological or physical
laws to any other animal.
Physical, yes. Biological, no.
Huh? Do you mean what you said, or do you mean
Alberto said:
If Biological Law is the survival of the more fit, then we
don't obey this Law. Sometimes, what happens is the survival of
the _less_ fit.
In particular situations that's always been the case: sometimes the
fitter get unlucky and sometimes the less fit get lucky. It's all a
Richard Baker wrote:
If Biological Law is the survival of the more fit, then we
don't obey this Law. Sometimes, what happens is the survival of
the _less_ fit.
In particular situations that's always been the case: sometimes the
fitter get unlucky and sometimes the less fit get lucky. It's
On 26/07/2006, at 9:06 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Physical, yes. Biological, no.
Huh? Do you mean what you said, or do you mean Physical, I agree,
Biological I don't.
Yes - but I think I said that. Didn't I? What did I say?
I wasn't sure, that's why I asked.
The evolutionary
Dave Land wrote:
...
The above quote is from Shelly's poem Ozymandus:
...
Forgive an old English major a moment with one of my favorite works...
...
The words, stamp'd on these lifeless things, are an aside. The line
says that the sculptor well read the passions that have survived both
the
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So souls can be combined as well as created? Or do identical twins share a
soul?
The ones I have met have each had their own soul, and from all accounts,
that's even true of conjoined twins. The rule may be, one soul per
functioning head.
Pat
Pat said:
The ones I have met have each had their own soul, and from all accounts,
that's even true of conjoined twins. The rule may be, one soul per
functioning head.
How can you tell the difference between something that looks like a
person and has a soul and something that looks like a
Old news, unfortunately...
Damon.
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AFAIK ECW was a spur-of-the-moment thing, and the only network that had an open
slot was Sci-Fi. It instantly became one of (if not THE) top-rated show...
Damon.
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Pat wrote:
The ones I have met have each had their own soul, and from all
accounts, that's even true of conjoined twins. The rule may be, one
soul per functioning head.
Experiences with people who have the two brain
From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pat said:
The ones I have met have each had their own soul, and from all accounts,
that's even true of conjoined twins. The rule may be, one soul per
functioning head.
How can you tell the difference between something that looks like a
person and
Damon Agretto wrote:
AFAIK ECW was a spur-of-the-moment thing, and the only network that
had an open slot was Sci-Fi. It instantly became one of (if not THE)
top-rated show...
So the same guys who used to make fun of and/or beat up your average
SciFi Network viewer is now tuning in? It is
Charlie Bell wrote:
On 26/07/2006, at 3:05 PM, PAT MATHEWS wrote:
From: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006
On 7/25/06, Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's with a heavy heart that I must report the SciFi Channel has sunk to a
new all time low.
I can only guess that SciFi Channel felt as if they had to do one worse
than
Tremors: The Series, and Scare Tactics.
[Deep sigh here] As I type this,
At 11:22 AM Wednesday 7/26/2006, John W Redelfs wrote:
On 7/25/06, Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's with a heavy heart that I must report the SciFi Channel has sunk to a
new all time low.
I can only guess that SciFi Channel felt as if they had to do one worse
than
Tremors: The Series,
Yes - I'd want abortion to be replaced with transfer of the foetus to
the artificial womb. In fact, if technology progressed so far, I
suspect many people would avoid the risk of pregnancy and childbirth
altogether.
This seems to be an entirely male perspective. I wonder how a woman would
As Steve said,
The Brin-L weekly chat has been a list tradition for over six
years. Way back on 27 May, 1998, Marco Maisenhelder first set
up a chatroom for the list, and on the next day, he established
a weekly chat time. We've been through several servers, chat
technologies, and even casts of
On Jul 25, 2006, at 11:44 PM, Richard Baker wrote:
As an aside, Ozymandias is a corruption of Usermaatre,
one of the names of Ramesses II, the Great.
Anyone who's seen Egyptian statuary (or read the Wikipedia
entry) knows that the faces of Remesses and other Pharaohs
do not have wrinkled lips
Damon wrote:
This seems to be an entirely male perspective. I wonder how a woman
would respond...
For me, it would depend on the number of offsprings I plan on having. The
first time around, I'd definitely want to do it myself. Just to see what
the experience is like. Having experienced it,
Dave said:
Anyone who's seen Egyptian statuary (or read the Wikipedia
entry) knows that the faces of Remesses and other Pharaohs
do not have wrinkled lips or sneers of cold command -- they
look pretty damn mellow, actually.
I'd characterise many of them as stern and imperturbable, with
On 7/26/06, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How I love my Tivo. I can just cherry pick the science fiction channel
movies that I want to watch and never even see the other crap. I don't
even
know how I watched TV before I had a Tivo.
Some of us look in the program guide¹ ahead of
At 02:30 PM Wednesday 7/26/2006, John W Redelfs wrote:
On 7/26/06, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How I love my Tivo. I can just cherry pick the science fiction channel
movies that I want to watch and never even see the other crap. I don't
even
know how I watched TV before I had a
On 7/26/06, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But you may also miss things that you might have chosen for yourself . . .
0
Huh? Maybe you don't know how Tivo works. I give them a wishlist of
films I want to see based upon category, director, actor, or keyword, and
then it computes a
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Dan wrote:
Have you looked at the poll RFK refered to?
Dan Minette wrote:
Translated into a per gallon price, it was $0.03 cents.
.03 cents or $0.03? Sorry, pet peeve, alongside ATM machine and PIN
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Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 10:15 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex
The pro-choice axiom is that, before birth, there are
On 27/07/2006, at 3:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes - I'd want abortion to be replaced with transfer of the
foetus to
the artificial womb. In fact, if technology progressed so far, I
suspect many people would avoid the risk of pregnancy and childbirth
altogether.
This seems to be an
On 27/07/2006, at 7:05 AM, Dan Minette wrote:
I also think that the idea that many people have views somewhere
between the
pro-choice set of axioms and the pro-life set of axioms is
fairly valid.
The debate I've seen doesn't reflect this. Most of it is between
people who
know their
Charlie Bell wrote:
Some people have c-sections because they can schedule them
round their yoga, or because they need to fit childbirth
into a certain period of the financial year for tax or
government incentive reasons,
The above reasons do not exist - at least here.
or to replace the
On 27/07/2006, at 8:02 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
Some people have c-sections because they can schedule them
round their yoga, or because they need to fit childbirth
into a certain period of the financial year for tax or
government incentive reasons,
The above reasons
Charlie Bell wrote:
Specially if gay men decide to have children. So, maybe we will
have the hellish opposite scenario of the lesbian utopia: a world
where most people are gay men :-/
LOL
Or we'll just have a 50:50 world, where 10% of people are
homosexual. As we do now.
10%? I
On 27/07/2006, at 8:20 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
Specially if gay men decide to have children. So, maybe we will
have the hellish opposite scenario of the lesbian utopia: a world
where most people are gay men :-/
LOL
Or we'll just have a 50:50 world, where 10% of
On 26/07/2006, at 10:43 PM, PAT MATHEWS wrote:
From: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So souls can be combined as well as created? Or do identical
twins share a soul?
The ones I have met have each had their own soul, and from all
accounts, that's even true of conjoined twins. The
On 26 Jul 2006, at 11:20PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
Specially if gay men decide to have children. So, maybe we will
have the hellish opposite scenario of the lesbian utopia: a world
where most people are gay men :-/
LOL
Or we'll just have a 50:50 world, where 10% of
On 26 Jul 2006, at 11:15PM, Matt Grimaldi wrote:
Wasn't there a Sci-fi book about that? Yes, there was. The main
character had to go find out what happened to his planet's
shipment of artificial wombs that hadn't arrived, so his adventure
took him into the great wide galaxy...
_Ethan of
http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/
From: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:22:29 +1000
On 26/07/2006,
On 27/07/2006, at 10:04 AM, PAT MATHEWS wrote:
I wish you hadn't asked me that. I had a long-time friend who has
been in the hospital with a massive stroke for some time now. The
person in her body is like a sweet, passive small child with
amnesia. I have finally got a gut feeling for
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes - I'd want abortion to be replaced with transfer of the foetus
to the artificial womb. In fact, if technology progressed so far,
I suspect many people would avoid the risk of pregnancy and
childbirth altogether.
This seems to be an entirely male perspective. I
How many pregnancies are planned, and how many are accidental?
I guess it would all depend on the technology. But whether people plan
their pregnancies around the tax season or their new-age hippie health
classes is irrelevant to the question: creating a system of artificial
iron wombs
From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I also think the idea of iron wombs cheapens the enture reproductive
process. That is my purely emotional hippie liberal opinion...
Damon.
My parents' generation was all for bottle feeding and canned goods because
they were clean, modern, sanitary,
In a message dated 7/25/2006 11:08:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My point, though, was simply that at that point they would clearly no
longer be human they would be something else, by definition.
One of the problems with your mode is thinking is the by
Just a note. The Darwin exhibit at the American Museum of Natural History in
New York is nearing the end of its run. If it comes to a museum near you (or
you will be in NY before the end of the summer) I urge all of you to see it.
The most amazing part of the exhibit are the transmutational
In a message dated 7/26/2006 7:06:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If Biological Law is the survival of the more fit, then we
don't obey this Law. Sometimes, what happens is the survival of
the _less_ fit.
Biologic laws are not like the laws of physics (at least
On 27/07/2006, at 10:49 AM, Damon Agretto wrote:
How many pregnancies are planned, and how many are accidental?
I guess it would all depend on the technology. But whether people
plan their pregnancies around the tax season or their new-age
hippie health classes is irrelevant to the
In a message dated 7/26/2006 8:46:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How can you tell the difference between something that looks like a
person and has a soul and something that looks like a person and doesn't?
Oh my god the philospher's zombie just showed up.
In a message dated 7/26/2006 10:15:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So souls can be combined as well as created? Or do identical twins share
a soul?
In addition the twining process does not take place at inception so if one
has identical twins when was the
On 27/07/2006, at 11:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One of the problems with your mode is thinking is the by
definition part.
This is way we used to think about species before Darwin.
...and a long way after. The Biological Species Concept was developed
through the mid-1900s, with
But whether people plan their pregnancies around the tax season or their
new-age hippie health classes is irrelevant to the question:
Yoga is a new-age hippie health class? Since when?
One of the biggest reason for C-sections over here is to ensure the time
of birth. So that the kid's
On 27/07/2006, at 1:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But whether people plan their pregnancies around the tax season or
their
new-age hippie health classes is irrelevant to the question:
Yoga is a new-age hippie health class? Since when?
One of the biggest reason for C-sections over here
Charlie said:
One of the biggest reason for C-sections over here is to ensure the
time
of birth. So that the kid's horoscope is auspicious
And there you have it. :-)
The prize for silliest possible reason? ;)
Ritu
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On 27/07/2006, at 2:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charlie said:
One of the biggest reason for C-sections over here is to ensure the
time
of birth. So that the kid's horoscope is auspicious
And there you have it. :-)
The prize for silliest possible reason? ;)
LOL I'm sure I can
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But whether people plan their pregnancies around the tax season or their
new-age hippie health classes is irrelevant to the question:
Yoga is a new-age hippie health class? Since when?
The only 2 yoga instructors I know personally are new-age hippy types.
Well,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes - I'd want abortion to be replaced with transfer of the foetus
to the artificial womb. In fact, if technology progressed so far,
I suspect many people would avoid the risk of pregnancy and
childbirth altogether.
This seems to be an entirely male
At 11:24 PM Wednesday 7/26/2006, Julia Thompson wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But whether people plan their pregnancies around the tax season or their
new-age hippie health classes is irrelevant to the question:
Yoga is a new-age hippie health class? Since when?
The only 2 yoga instructors
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 11:24 PM Wednesday 7/26/2006, Julia Thompson wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But whether people plan their pregnancies around the tax season or
their
new-age hippie health classes is irrelevant to the question:
Yoga is a new-age hippie health class? Since when?
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