Re: Nuclear MAD Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-15 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 14, 2006, at 9:21 PM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gibson Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because the USA may be the target of nuclear terrorism. OTOH, nuclear terrorists might explode a bomb anywhere they can, just to show they have it. OK. How does this make any

Re: Morality

2006-09-15 Thread Richard Baker
JDG said: Given the existence of universal truth, I don't see how the number n of people who fail to recognize and accept that universal truth is at all relevant. After all, that universal truth is, by definition, universally true. Yes, indeed. But Dan was specifically talking about

Re: Jobs, not trees! (Collapse, Chapter 2)

2006-09-15 Thread Richard Baker
JDG said: Additionally, if my memory serves me correctly, Egypt went on to become one of the most important and productive provinces in the Roman Empire. Thus, it hardly seems to have been depleted. In fact, Egypt was so productive that there were people who argued against its

Re: The Fertility Gap

2006-09-15 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 14, 2006, at 10:34 AM, J.D. Giorgis wrote: A thought-provoking article about the implications of differing fertility rates based on political ideology in the US:

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-15 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gibson Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That you can phrase the question as should a defense company be making sub-standard profits - whatever that means in this realm - is amazing to read. If you have any direct experience I'd like to hear about it. They've always

Re: Keep Propaganda Off The Airwaves

2006-09-15 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, if ABC had decided to air Farenheit 9/11 this weekend instead would you all agree or disagree that such an action would be a bald-faced attempt to slander Republicans and revise history right before Americans vote in a

Re: It takes a village to poison a child's mind

2006-09-15 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is why the Democrats will always lose: we lack the will to feed poisonous lies to children to achieve our ends. Uh huh. - It tells students that the United States went to war in Iraq because of weapons of mass

Re: Scholastic Does the Right Thing

2006-09-15 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In an impressive display of agility, educational publisher Scholastic has cancelled their planned distribution of study guides to accompany the Path to 9/11 miniseries and replaced them with a Media Literacy Discussion Guide that

Re: Bush, Buchanan, and Hoover

2006-09-15 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Oh, that sucks! http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Bush, Buchanan, and Hoover Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:02:36 -0500 At 10:54 PM Thursday

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-15 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John W Redelfs jredelfs@ wrote: People extol the virtues of abortion Not *all* people, Maru. Not anybody that I know of. At best, it is a triage decision. Wow. Finally a view that really

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-15 Thread Jim Sharkey
JDG wrote: Nick Arnett wrote: A while ago, somebody said This country isn't at war, only our military is at war. I think that was profound. It bugs the heck out of me, to put it mildly, that our leaders ask no one except the troops to make sacrifices for the current wars. What is huge

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-15 Thread Charlie Bell
On 15/09/2006, at 3:29 PM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John W Redelfs jredelfs@ wrote: People extol the virtues of abortion Not *all* people, Maru. Not anybody that I know of. At best, it is a triage

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-15 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/14/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is huge profits? Is there some level of profits for these companies that you would accept as not being huge? Particularly after accounting for the fact that companies which provide services to the military naturally find their services to

Re: The Morality of Killing Babies

2006-09-15 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/15/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not anybody that I know of. At best, it is a triage decision. Wow. Finally a view that really gets to the heart of it. Thanks, Nick. I may use that in the future. Too bad its not true. Consider the website of this abortion provider - other

Re: Keep Propaganda Off The Airwaves

2006-09-15 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/15/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally think that it would be good for the TV networks to take on controversial atttudes. Airing a factually inaccurate historical docu-drama? That is as much like taking on controversial issues as going on a holiday cruise is like

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-15 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:39 AM Friday 9/15/2006, Nick Arnett wrote: I don't think there is an economic formula in existence that justifies making money in a cause for which people are giving their very lives. And yet for most of the world's history that has been a very real part of the economic system. It

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-15 Thread Nick Arnett
On 9/15/06, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I am not mentioning this to make light of your argument about the current war, but just to point out that in many other cases we accept a human cost as necessary part of the cost of getting a job done.) Accepting it and quantifying it are

Re: Bush, Buchanan, and Hoover

2006-09-15 Thread Alberto Monteiro
JDG wrote: Given everything that Herbert Hoover accomplished with his live, I'm very surprised to see you compare Bush to Hoover I know nothing about Hoover. Was he also an strategical genius like Bush? Alberto Monteiro ___

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-15 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 15, 2006, at 4:56 AM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gibson Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That you can phrase the question as should a defense company be making sub-standard profits - whatever that means in this realm - is amazing to read. If you have any direct

Re: Bush, Buchanan, and Hoover

2006-09-15 Thread PAT MATHEWS
Hoover had a far better strategic brain than Bush. Unfortunately, that's not hard. Let's rephrase that: Hoover did have a strategic brain. He was just operating on the wrong theory under unprecedented circumstances, and a lot of startegists do not respond quickly to things. Or why he was

Re: Scholastic Does the Right Thing

2006-09-15 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 15, 2006, at 5:19 AM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In an impressive display of agility, educational publisher Scholastic has cancelled their planned distribution of study guides to accompany the Path to 9/11 miniseries and replaced them

Re: Keep Propaganda Off The Airwaves

2006-09-15 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/15/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally think that it would be good for the TV networks to take on controversial atttudes. Airing a factually inaccurate historical docu-drama? That is as much like

Re: Soldiers Die, CEOs Prosper

2006-09-15 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 15 Sep 2006 at 6:39, Nick Arnett wrote: I hope and pray that the vast majority of people still believe that making profits from death and destruction is wrong, that every red cent is tainted with the blood of the fallen, even if it can be justified by economics. And there are people out

It's OK When It's My Guy...

2006-09-15 Thread Horn, John
One of the thoughts I've had repeatedly since 9/11 is about the phenomenon that just about anything can be accepted if it's done by guys on your own side. The unprecedented power that George W Bush is trying to take into the White House is one of those. Republicans say it is great; Democrats say

Re: It takes a village to poison a child's mind

2006-09-15 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 15, 2006, at 5:15 AM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is why the Democrats will always lose: we lack the will to feed poisonous lies to children to achieve our ends. Uh huh. - It tells students that the United States went to

Re: Keep Propaganda Off The Airwaves

2006-09-15 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 15, 2006, at 11:15 AM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/15/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally think that it would be good for the TV networks to take on controversial atttudes. Airing a factually inaccurate

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-15 Thread Gibson Jonathan
On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 14/09/2006, at 7:26 PM, Gibson Jonathan wrote: Hey, there was a lot of mass and volume to be those structures and it is little wonder some of it spread out. The point we are all scratching our heads over is how they didn't topple off to

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-15 Thread Charlie Bell
On 15/09/2006, at 11:52 PM, Gibson Jonathan wrote: Charlie, You've turned the whole thing in it's head. Your asking me to prove support for your position that the official story, du jour, holds true. No, I'm asking you for evidence to support your claim that it doesn't. The point we

Re: The Fertility Gap

2006-09-15 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:10 PM Friday 9/15/2006, Dave Land wrote: On Sep 15, 2006, at 4:30 AM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 14, 2006, at 10:34 AM, J.D. Giorgis wrote: A thought-provoking article about the implications of differing fertility rates

Re: The Fertility Gap

2006-09-15 Thread Dave Land
On Sep 15, 2006, at 2:31 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I Am A Thoughtful Voter, You Are A Mindless Idiot Maru I am both, depending on the election, to be honest. I'm taking this one a little more seriously. The primaries almost got by me without my putting a lot of thought into them, so I was

Re: Bush, Buchanan, and Hoover

2006-09-15 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Sep 15, 2006, at 7:50 AM, PAT MATHEWS wrote: Bush's strategic ability can be measured in micrometers IMO. Yeah, but have you measured his strategery? It's off the charts! -- Warren Ockrassa Blog | http://indigestible.nightwares.com/ Books | http://books.nightwares.com/ Web |

Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?

2006-09-15 Thread Gibson Jonathan
Sorry Charlie, I have lost the references I have to the side-toppled buildings I speak of, but will relay them as they turn up. Some of the same ones appeared in the threads when we first dove into this some months ago, if that helps. Ok, let's get into the science a bit more. This event

Re: Bush, Buchanan, and Hoover

2006-09-15 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 6:56 PM Subject: Re: Bush, Buchanan, and Hoover On Sep 15, 2006, at 7:50 AM, PAT MATHEWS wrote: Bush's strategic ability can be measured in

9/11 conspiracies (WAS RE: What should we believe when there is no reliable information?)

2006-09-15 Thread Gautam Mukunda
John Gibson wrote: I understand your acceptance. Interesting that your friend is well-placed and perhaps well-heeled - this actually fits a premise I'll go into later about people who know where their bread gets buttered. I'd really like to know just how these studies were funded,