On Sep 23, 2006, at 6:05 AM, jdiebremse wrote:
...
With that being said, I don't understand how the pastor can imagine
Jesus saying that the State has no right to impose its view of when
human life begins on other people, that there can never be a just law
requiring uniformity of behavior on
On Sep 20, 2006, at 9:02 PM, jdiebremse wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gibson Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
My problem with this particular situation is a serious lack of
evenhandedness shows deepening flaws. For almost two decades I've
watched conservative politicians court and skirt
Although number one, M$oft, could be done with some public pressure -
or Apple doing it first - my vote is Four:
4) In order to keep using those textbooks (like my
son’s) that still have TRY IT IN BASIC exercises, one
reader had a fantastically simple suggestion. A
turn-key web site! “For
Hullo Dave, all,
I applaud your gesture of even-handedness as this is a useful reminder
for maintaining a civil tone and maybe, just maybe, getting to root
issues. A problem well-stated is a problem half-solved, and all. I
just wished our system actually worked as we are sold it does.
My
, at 4:19 PM, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
--- Gibson Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have no idea if your accomplished friend is in on
anything. If I had
I would have directly said so. I wasn't trying to
besmirch her, I was
pointing out many people accept a
go-along-to-get-along mentality and
yet
Greetings Gautam,
Thank you for your response. I appreciate the level headed tone and
reasonable queries. And for giving this a much-needed new thread
label.
Conspiracies theories, are just that until proven and are by
necessity vague to some depth. I am earnestly seeking answers and
On Sep 14, 2006, at 9:21 PM, jdiebremse wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gibson Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Because the USA may be the target of nuclear terrorism. OTOH,
nuclear terrorists might explode a bomb anywhere they can, just
to show they have it.
OK.
How does this make any
On Sep 15, 2006, at 4:56 AM, jdiebremse wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gibson Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
That you can phrase the question as should a defense company be making
sub-standard profits - whatever that means in this realm - is amazing
to read. If you have any direct
On Sep 14, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Charlie Bell wrote:
On 14/09/2006, at 7:26 PM, Gibson Jonathan wrote:
Hey, there was a lot of mass and volume to be those structures and it
is little wonder some of it spread out. The point we are all
scratching our heads over is how they didn't topple off
of your feelings if you hope to have any near-term effect on their
craven conduct.
- Jonathan -
On Sep 15, 2006, at 2:08 PM, Charlie Bell wrote:
On 15/09/2006, at 11:52 PM, Gibson Jonathan wrote:
Charlie,
You've turned the whole thing in it's head. Your asking me to prove
support for your
On Sep 13, 2006, at 4:24 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 05:49 PM Wednesday 9/13/2006, Gibson Jonathan wrote:
Yes, our friends and neighbors live an exceptionally rich fantasy
life.
On Sep 13, 2006, at 12:38 PM, William T Goodall wrote:
On 13 Sep 2006, at 8:34PM, Dan Minette wrote:
I
On Sep 13, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Dan Minette wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gibson Jonathan
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:24 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: What should we believe when there is no reliable
On Sep 14, 2006, at 8:54 PM, jdiebremse wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A while ago, somebody said This country isn't at war, only our
military is at war. I think that was profound. It bugs the heck out
of me, to put it mildly, that our leaders ask no
Thank you Andrew for a much more reasonable tone.
You have cleared a few items up this time around and I'll respond in
time kind.
Claws sheathed.
On Sep 12, 2006, at 11:31 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 12 Sep 2006 at 6:38, Gibson Jonathan wrote:
Face it: If your making games you've
believe when there is no reliable
information?
On Sep 12, 2006, at 10:16 AM, Gibson Jonathan wrote:
BTW - Is it impertinent to ask whatever happened to our WTC
questions now?
Someone, I'm not sure who, but I think it may have been Dan Minette,
wrote to the list that Gautam's friend on the 9/11
wrote:
On 11 Sep 2006 at 9:49, Gibson Jonathan wrote:
My, AndrewC, you are a prickly one aren't you?
You come out all fire and scorching brimstone from the get-go on this
topic.
Expect push-back.
It's called reason, applied, and a defence of a tolerant view. And
Except what I'm getting from you
On Sep 12, 2006, at 5:29 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Jonathan Gibson wrote:
Nuclear Islamic Terrorism is far more dangerous than Nuclear
Communism. They had something to lose, while the islamic fanatics
don't - not even if the retaliation would reduce every sacred
islamic place to
Hullo,
I sympathize.
As someone with a good nose for bull-shite I tend to side with your POV
on this. What we are all witness to is the old signal to noise ratio.
As the publishing sphincters have been loosened {so to speak} first
with the DTP revolution and now the web allows any all
On Sep 8, 2006, at 2:50 PM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote:
Jonathan Gibson wrote:
Who's arguing absolute pacifism?
I operate on the Fight end of the Spectrum and not Fear, but that
doesn't mean I need to reduce everything to fisticuffs. I simply face
my fears head on. It's the
Robert,
I agree whole-heartedly.
I'll fly mine in defiance... and upside-down in accordance with a Ship
In Distress rules of the open sea.
- Jonathan -
On Sep 8, 2006, at 7:27 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
Ann Holland wrote:
Remember to honor those who have served and this great country
On Sep 11, 2006, at 4:24 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Jonathan Gibson wrote:
I read Cassini Division over the few quiet times I found
at Burning Man last week (...)
The first time I heard about this Burning Man was in
a Malcolm-in-the-Middle episode. It sounds like Brazilian
Carnival, but
My, AndrewC, you are a prickly one aren't you?
You come out all fire and scorching brimstone from the get-go on this
topic.
Expect push-back.
On Sep 8, 2006, at 1:48 AM, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 7 Sep 2006 at 20:04, Gibson Jonathan wrote:
As an artist hovering around the computer
On Sep 11, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Jonathan Gibson wrote:
Because the USA may be the target of nuclear terrorism. OTOH,
nuclear terrorists might explode a bomb anywhere they can, just
to show they have it.
OK.
How does this make any difference? We faced nuclear megadeath
Hi!
Hello, HELLO... earth calling ethereal c
On Sep 7, 2006, at 10:00 PM, John W Redelfs wrote:
On 9/7/06, Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And there in fact is a rational argument in favour of vegetarianism,
because a given area of land can feed more vegetarians than meat
eaters
Warren,
Brilliant rebuttal. Your examples and premise work for me!
{no further comment below}
-Jonathan-
On Sep 7, 2006, at 9:16 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
There's a bit of convolution here; before a meaningful discussion can
happen in some areas I think some of it has to be untangled.
On
On Sep 8, 2006, at 7:44 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Nick Arnett quoted:
(...) researchers will inevitably say that the body count
has crossed 100,000.
All of this madness to stop a madman, Saddam Hussein.
I think it's a small price to pay for the removal of a tyrant.
What is the
On Sep 8, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Jonathan Gibson wrote:
I assume you'll toss your own family into the furnace first
just to be sure we have enough to cover your ethically
challenged accounting methods.
The problem is that my own family _is_ into the furnace right
now.
Hullo,
So many missives to catch up on. I've been busy.
As an artist hovering around the computer industry since High School I
find it amazing that AndrewC initially claims to be a non-expert, yet
sells computers he regularly builds. Andrew, you undercut yourself on
the credibility factor
Greetings,
What a week for this topic!
This entry is big, so brace for impact.
- JG -
On Aug 3, 2006, at 3:37 PM, Brother John wrote:
Of course, everyone knows that I am just a right-wing crackpot and
conspiracy nut, so no one has to pay any attention to me. But my son
and I knew that 9-11
this is a measure of
the rumor mill and other factors, but consistent with the growing
concerns ordinary people are having with this issue.
http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll
See you on the other side!
- Jonathan Love Puppies Eat From My Bowl Gibson -
Jonathan Gibson
www.formandfunction.com
Hello,
I see we are going to focus on the mechanical rather than political
here.
On Aug 2, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Robert Seeberger wrote:
I think I can explain explosions in the basement, though I would need
the electrical plans to the building to verify this but.
When the plane
will
finance upper education in the coming decades. Immigration to Europe
-or- Australia is a serious consideration for us.
On Aug 1, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Dave Land wrote:
On Jul 30, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Gibson Jonathan wrote:
http://www.formandfunction.com/wraptures/index.html
Way back in the early days
Wow, where to start?
I can't tell if I agree or not with Brother John, but it prompts me to
write.
On Jul 29, 2006, at 7:30 PM, Brother John wrote:
jdiebremse wrote:
Harder than the decision to carry the child to birth? Harder than
the decision to give up the child for adoption? Harder
On Jul 30, 2006, at 11:33 PM, Brother John wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
Your lack of imagination is unsurprising.
Recently, a cat baiting exercise near my old house resulted in the
poisoning of many pet and stray cats. Including all three of mine.
This was done for pest control reasons by
On Jul 31, 2006, at 9:23 AM, Horn, John wrote:
On Behalf Of Nick Arnett
On 7/29/06, Brother John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We ourselves used to be
an enormously fertile and prolific people. Our ascendancy over
the
Native Americans who were here before us is as much a factor of
the
Greetings Tribe of Brin,
For those of you who use graphics in your work and play I have a small
treat.
I am pleased to announce to this small group the imminent public
offering of my multi-CD image libraries. Not a must-buy Wall Street
deal to buy stock in an image company, but a gift to the
On Jul 22, 2006, at 3:51 PM, Charlie Bell wrote:
On 23/07/2006, at 2:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RFK Jr's statement didn't adress this at all. I'd argue that both
Democrats and Republicans give half truths that favor their position.
It's
not that RFK Jr. is a champion of truth
Ahoy,
I'm here late for this conversation.
Pardon me.
On Jul 23, 2006, at 4:00 PM, jdiebremse wrote:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
only the party in
power has been this corrupt and this cynical.
Where have you gone Dan Rostenkowski?
Our nation turns its lonely eyes
www.theparacast.com
If it's Thursday, your already late downloading the latest podcast.
I've enjoyed this weekly podcast centered around the scientifically
weird and mystically rational constructs we encounter trying to sort
out the awkwardly tangible from the merely impossible. Launched
Excellent.
I welcome this opportunity.
Apologies for my own intermittent involvement on this. I don't mean to
throw argument bombs into the room and then exit - I just don't have
the spare cycles to weigh in as often as I would like, yet.
Mr Bell, if selective bloviating was enough then
On Jul 12, 2006, at 12:53 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Hi, Jonathat. Welcome to the list!
[please scroll down . . . ]
Mostly, we just need the economy to function properly again.
Define function[ing] properly . . .
-- Ronn! :)
OK,
Yes, let's re-organize society before breakfast.
My
Hello all,
I am glad to make this belated introduction.
I have to disclaim any sort of regular status, but that is not for lack
of desire. My schedule is too often committed and I have rarely
found/made windows of opportunity to jump back in. It's often months
between even checking the
On Jul 11, 2006, at 7:25 AM, Julia Thompson wrote:
Have you considered trying to get a job with a company that writes
architectural software? Seems like that might be a decent fit. But I
understand the appeal of self-employment.
Julia
for a bite a beer? Call my social secretary,
415-305-7699.
- Jonathan -
On Jul 11, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
On 7/11/06, Gibson Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
You didn't mention the magic word, Guernica, or I'd have realized
why your name sounded so familiar to me!
Nick
A quick note,
My once-upon-a-time almost sister in-law works at Christies auction
house and gets to fondle many and assorted wonders from the Known
Universe - she passes this announcement along. Paramount is
liquidating memorabilia {matter transferring?} items from it's 40 year
archives.
Ahoy all, I trust we are enjoying our long weekend.
I've just done some quick updating the conversation these last few days
and have some additional thoughts.
On Jun 30, 2006, at 8:01 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The History Channel occasionally runs its 9/11 special.
On Jun 28, 2006, at 10:55 PM, Charlie Bell wrote:
On 29/06/2006, at 4:06 AM, Dave Land wrote:
Fuel that, when burning, generates less than 800 degrees C, about a
third of the temperature needed to melt the steel used in the WTC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Phase_diag_iron_carbon-
On Jun 28, 2006, at 2:33 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
Whatever, honey.
On Jun 28, 2006, at 2:04 PM, Gibson Jonathan wrote:
Sigh.
[etc.]
Look at my dialogue with Nick to understand how adults behave.
If you had extended actual dialog you might have a point.
Make me care.
- J
As for the pilots and training...
It's gets kinda thick, but if you can spell PATSY your journey has
already begun.
As I understand from a conservative investigator {who I think is} named
Lomas {apologies as my memory is fuzzy here, but I see him on C-SPAN
several times a year} he's
Lucky you!
I have too much free time just now and can reply at length, and will.
On Jun 28, 2006, at 11:18 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
I'm with Dan on this one (!). That a fully-loaded 737 can cause, after
impact, buildings to fall down is not even remotely shocking.
This is an aircraft that
Sigh,
Sharpen your pencil Warren and follow along as best you can.
On Jun 28, 2006, at 11:33 AM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
Hyperbole, lots thereof -- but where are the facts, the figures, etc.?
Just one example:
Molten steel unearthed six months after the collapse displays energy
levels
Sigh.
I'm not your walking stick just because you can't walk on your own to
the school.
Start doing your own hard work. You don't even answer direct questions.
Do you think I like being right about this?
On Jun 28, 2006, at 1:17 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
Okay -- so where are the energy
and Julie Bos wrote:
On 10/2/05 2:46 AM, Gibson Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Excuse me, but what about this Davis Bacon wage act is racist?
Just what is your definition of racism?
The American middle class didn't grow large until wage/union rules
were
enacted under the New Deal. In case you
Mr Bos,
Apologies up front everyone for my surly nature, but I'm in a foul mood
these days. To coin a term w/o casting aspersions, I do not suffer
fools gladly.
Politics is too important to be left to politicians - else we are ruled
by our lessors. What could be more political than GwB
Friends, Lurkers, misguided Conservatives,
This Oregon boy lived and loved New Orleans for all it's aging
trollops, dirt-poor Gospel huggers and Byzantine graft. The bad dreams
are ebbing, at last, but I've woken many nights sweating and anxious
with trapped/drowning dreams of retreating to
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