On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 06:43 am, Jan Coffey wrote:
16 bits per sample? yuck! get with the program, we are talking 24 at
the very
least and 32 if you are recording to standard mdvd. never mind the
format
wars).
16 bits is what CDs use, so a lossless copy of a CD is 16 bit.
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On Friday, October 24, 2003, at 06:43 am, Jan Coffey wrote:
16 bits per sample? yuck! get with the program, we are talking 24 at
the very
least and 32 if you are recording to standard mdvd. never mind the
format
wars).
16 bits
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Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 04:55 PM
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Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
** I'm not sure how much (if any) overhead the iPod has per
file, but the article
Jan Coffey wrote:
16 bits per sample? yuck! get with the program, we are talking 24 at the
very
least and 32 if you are recording to standard mdvd. never mind the format
wars).
Extra bits are nice, but all they really give you is a bigger dynamic range.
What
I really like playing with (at 16
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 10:00 AM
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Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
--- William T Goodall
Reggie, What are you using for recording?
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jan Coffey wrote:
16 bits per sample? yuck! get with the program, we are talking 24 at the
very
least and 32 if you are recording to standard mdvd. never mind the format
wars).
Extra bits are nice, but
Jan Coffey asked:
Reggie, What are you using for recording?
That depends. If I'm using my own equipment, I typically record to a
DAT machine at 44.1kHz and then run the signal in digital into my hard
drive and use ProTools, CSound, and various freeware and shareware
tools to capture and
William T. Goodall posted:
Just to footnote that there is a review at Stereophile Magazine, complete
with measurements and graphs and all, that concludes:-
The iPod's measured behavior is better than many CD players—ironic,
considering that most of the time it will be used to play MP3 and AAC
Reggie Bautista wrote:
Just for the record (pardon the pun), uncompressed cd-quality audio
takes up about 10 megs per stereo minute*
*44100 samples per second times 16 bits per sample equals 705600 bits
per second. 705600 bits per second divided by 8 equals 88200 bytes,
which rounds up to 9
I wrote:
Just for the record (pardon the pun), uncompressed cd-quality audio
takes up about 10 megs per stereo minute*
*44100 samples per second times 16 bits per sample equals 705600 bits
per second. 705600 bits per second divided by 8 equals 88200 bytes,
which rounds up to 9 megabytes.
Russell
Two clarifications.
I wrote:
I knew when I typed that it was under something didn't sound right.
That might not parse correctly without a comma and different word order.
It should read:
When I typed that it was under, I knew something didn't sound right.
And yes, I realize I misspelled
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
William T. Goodall posted:
Just to footnote that there is a review at Stereophile Magazine, complete
with measurements and graphs and all, that concludes:-
The iPod's measured behavior is better than many CD players—ironic,
considering that
Miller, Jeffrey wrote
snip
Excellent, excellent player. I've got the 30Gb model. It is
pricey, but worth it and highly recommended.
Anyone have a newer one? I'm selling my 10G today, and am debating the 20G
vs the 40G..
Bigger is better.
George A
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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 04:58 PM
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On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 02:44 am, Erik Reuter wrote:
Yup, brainwashed. Are you going to become religious next?
Yup, brainwashed. You have joined the recording industry religion.
Preach the gospel, brother!
You were the one who brought up contributing to the artists. But I can
understand
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 03:53 am, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 20 Oct 2003 at 1:03, William T Goodall wrote:
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:52 pm, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 18 Oct 2003 at 9:48, William T Goodall wrote:
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:35 am, Doug Pensinger
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 08:52:14AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
Is there an argument in there that I missed?
Yup.
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On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 01:15 pm, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 08:52:14AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
Is there an argument in there that I missed?
Yup.
So what was it?
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On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:10:38PM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
So what was it?
Go back and read my prior message and try actually answering the
questions, then maybe we can get somewhere.
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Erik Reuter wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:10:38PM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
So what was it?
Go back and read my prior message and try actually answering the
questions, then maybe we can get somewhere.
Back to the netherlander sagas perhaps?
Ray.
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 11:40:05PM +1000, Ray Ludenia wrote:
Back to the netherlander sagas perhaps?
If you think that, then you need to pay closer attention.
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On 20 Oct 2003 at 9:11, William T Goodall wrote:
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 03:53 am, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 20 Oct 2003 at 1:03, William T Goodall wrote:
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:52 pm, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 18 Oct 2003 at 9:48, William T Goodall wrote:
Listening test? Right.
I'm talking about actual waveform analysis compared to the origional
sound.
Ah, so who cares what it sounds like - we'll tell you what you should be
thinking.
Tom Beck
www.prydonians.org
www.mercerjewishsingles.org
I always knew I'd see the first man on the
Apple: 1 million iTunes copies, songs in three days
By Peter Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
October 20, 2003 9:40 am ET
Last week Apple introduced its long-awaited iTunes for Windows software. The
software provides Windows PC users with the ability to buy music from the
iTunes Music Store, and it
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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 08:36 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid
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Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 02:23 AM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
William T Goodall wrote:
snip
The iPod doesn't rip. It is a player - mp3, aac
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
Listening test? Right.
I'm talking about actual waveform analysis compared to the origional
sound.
Ah, so who cares what it sounds like
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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 01:11 AM
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Yes. It was run in the media lab of Salford University.
I'll see if I
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
So I guess the simple answer to your question, Dan, would be that
fidelity to the sound of the original does not always equal
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 02:17 pm, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:10:38PM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
So what was it?
Go back and read my prior message and try actually answering the
questions, then maybe we can get somewhere.
If I can find the time I might do that.
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 02:54:43AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
On Monday, October 20, 2003, at 02:17 pm, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:10:38PM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
So what was it?
Go back and read my prior message and try actually answering the
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:35 am, Doug Pensinger wrote:
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112983,00.asp, that I can't
play tunes downloaded from ITunes on my Musicmatch jukebox?
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 09:46 am, William T Goodall wrote:
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 12:15 am, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 17 Oct 2003 at 15:24, Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
as varied as Blackalicious (hip-hop) to Loreena McKennitt (world)
to
Lisa Loeb (pop). I've also found that
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 09:48:43AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:35 am, Doug Pensinger wrote:
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112983,00.asp, that I can't
play tunes downloaded from ITunes on my
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 09:31:18AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
Some isn't more than none?
None isn't none.
If you think that it is accurate to call copying music files from a
friend stealing, if you think that the only way or best way for
artists to make money from creating music is to
On 18 Oct 2003 at 9:48, William T Goodall wrote:
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:35 am, Doug Pensinger wrote:
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112983,00.asp, that I
can't play tunes downloaded from ITunes on my Musicmatch jukebox?
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 09:48:43 +0100, William T Goodall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the idea is to use iTunes as the player instead of whatever
inferior software you were previously hampered by :)
Musicmatch is decent software, and I've got tome and money invested in it
as do many other
William T Goodall wrote:
snip
The iPod doesn't rip. It is a player - mp3, aac, aiff etc. The player
hardware is of very high quality - suitable for driving external
amplifier and speakers.
Excellent, excellent player. I've got the 30Gb model. It is pricey,
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 12:00 pm, Jan Coffey wrote:
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:35 am, Doug Pensinger wrote:
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112983,00.asp, that I can't
play tunes
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:52 pm, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 18 Oct 2003 at 9:48, William T Goodall wrote:
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:35 am, Doug Pensinger wrote:
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112983,00.asp, that I
can't play
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 03:55 pm, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 09:31:18AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
Some isn't more than none?
None isn't none.
It isn't? I think you are too subtle for me :)
If you think that it is accurate to call copying music files from a
friend
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:07:41AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
The solution to the pie being divided unfairly isn't to throw out
the pie. Getting rid of IP seems like Luddism to me, a return to
the days of craft work and patronage. IP (copyright in the case of
music, books and films)
On 20 Oct 2003 at 1:03, William T Goodall wrote:
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:52 pm, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 18 Oct 2003 at 9:48, William T Goodall wrote:
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:35 am, Doug Pensinger wrote:
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 12:15 am, Andrew Crystall wrote:
On 17 Oct 2003 at 15:24, Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
as varied as Blackalicious (hip-hop) to Loreena McKennitt (world) to
Lisa Loeb (pop). I've also found that much of the Bethoven and Grieg I
ripped onto my iPod share this... tonal
On Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 04:35 am, Doug Pensinger wrote:
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112983,00.asp, that I can't
play tunes downloaded from ITunes on my Musicmatch jukebox?
So much for ITunes. 8^P
I think the idea is to use iTunes
On Friday, October 17, 2003, at 05:02 am, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 11:20:33PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some young people who think (if you can call it thinking) that they
have some kind of a right to download (i.e., steal) all the music
they want for nothing, no they
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 09:28:33AM +0100, William T Goodall wrote:
However little money the creators make when one buys the music it is
more than the 'none at all' they make when one steals it.
Wrong.
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On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 01:07:32AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you think it is evil to contribute money to terrorists?
Um...non-sequitur?
Do you know much about the record industry and RIAA?
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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 04:03 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
I am. The hassle of all the backdoor spyware
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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 02:04 PM
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Subject: RE: iTunes for Windo$e
Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
... I'm one of those freaks who
On Friday, October 17, 2003, at 10:04 pm, Robert J. Chassell wrote:
Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
... I'm one of those freaks who can hear the sound quality
difference between mp3s and cds; drives me nuts sometimes.
Just curious: for you, what is the sound quality difference
On 17 Oct 2003 at 15:24, Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
as varied as Blackalicious (hip-hop) to Loreena McKennitt (world) to
Lisa Loeb (pop). I've also found that much of the Bethoven and Grieg I
ripped onto my iPod share this... tonal wash-out.
That is largely to to the basic alogrythm the iPod uses
So I'm assuming, after reading this:
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112983,00.asp, that I can't play
tunes downloaded from ITunes on my Musicmatch jukebox?
So much for ITunes. 8^P
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iTunes and the iTunes Music Store are now available to users of Windows
XP and Windows 2000. Store still only sells in the USA.
http://www.apple.com/itunes/
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A bad thing
William T Goodall wrote:
iTunes and the iTunes Music Store are now available to users of
Windows XP and Windows 2000. Store still only sells in the USA.
http://www.apple.com/itunes/
Why USA only? It's not like there's shipping involved. Or security
issues. Or the content is exclusively from
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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 03:50 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Re: iTunes for Windo$e
William T Goodall wrote:
iTunes and the iTunes Music Store are now
Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
I am. The hassle of all the backdoor spyware and the risk of viruses (at worst) from crappy p2p software is enough to drive me legit years ago... ok, that and a CD collection that, at last count, topped 1000... I honestly don't /need/ free music.
Wow - where do you put
In a message dated 10/16/03 6:51:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I hope they do well, but I wonder if, after years and years of free
downloads, people are going to be willing to start paying.
Some young people who think (if you can call it thinking) that they have some
kind of a right
Who, exactly, is losing a lot of money from this stealing you are
talking about? You don't suppose it is the creators of the music, do
you?
You think the only music being downloaded is from the major labels? That no
independent labels and artists who release their own CDs are being ripped
Do you think the most money is being stolen from independent labels?
Does it matter? Why rip off from ANYONE?
Tom Beck
www.prydonians.org
www.mercerjewishsingles.org
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last. - Dr Jerry Pournelle
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 12:50:29AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does it matter? Why rip off from ANYONE?
Do you think the record labels ask that question? The RIAA?
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Do you think the record labels ask that question? The RIAA?
And their iniquity justifies someone else's?
Tom Beck
www.prydonians.org
www.mercerjewishsingles.org
I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed I'd see the
last. - Dr Jerry Pournelle
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 12:55:18AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And their iniquity justifies someone else's?
Do you think it is evil to contribute money to terrorists?
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Do you think it is evil to contribute money to terrorists?
Um...non-sequitur?
Tom Beck
www.prydonians.org
www.mercerjewishsingles.org
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