Second part of reply, much abbreviated as I'm trying
not to re-hash stuff too much. wry I'm sure I'll
be corrected if I misremember something. ;)
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The article is certainly slanted against the
Admin's
--- Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard Baker wrote:
Andy said:
You do not chose to be Jewish if your mother is.
You are Jewish.
Isn't that argument roughly the same as if I set
up the Slaves of
Rich and said anyone with brown eyes was
automatically a Slave of
I just read the following on SCIFIWEEKLY:
Producer Gale Ann Hurd (Hulk, Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines) has
signed a deal with the SCI FI Channel to produce the six-hour miniseries,
Kim Stanley Robinson's Red Mars. The announcement closely follows another
high-profile deal made recently by
Julia
What the heck are you doing at a bar at 3 - 4am?
Who said anything about bar and AM? It's a restaurant, so, well,
OK, they *do* have a bar, but you don't even need to sit there if you
want to order margaritas (and I have no idea how their margaritas are,
I'd have to ask Chuck
P.S. A friend recommended (loaning me the DVD) I watch a
mini-series called The 10th Kingdom. I was sceptical at
first, but ended up really having a good time with it.
Anyone seen it?
George A
The 10th Kingdom was a great family movie, I even bought my daughter the
DVD. Who could not
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I snipped massively, particularly where we said
basically the same thing.
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is the radio address text...
At 09:44 AM 6/11/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Jeff said:
The claim, however, that the two vehicles are mobile germ labs has
been repeated frequently by both Blair and President George Bush in
recent days in support of claims that they prove the existence of
Iraq's weapons of mass destruction.
I'm
On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 10:11 am, G. D. Akin wrote:
P.S. A friend recommended (loaning me the DVD) I watch a mini-series
called
The 10th Kingdom. I was sceptical at first, but ended up really
having a
good time with it. Anyone seen it?
I've seen most of it. It was nice to see Rutger
At 12:25 AM 6/10/03 -0400, Erik Reuter asked:
Does God exist?
Yes.
(The proof is left as an exercise for the reader.)
Does Allah exist?
Does Zeus exist?
Does Odin exist?
I'm not saying that this is what I believe, or that it is the only
possibility, but could these perhaps be alternative
At 05:53 AM 6/11/03 -0400, Gary Nunn wrote:
P.S. A friend recommended (loaning me the DVD) I watch a
mini-series called The 10th Kingdom. I was sceptical at
first, but ended up really having a good time with it.
Anyone seen it?
George A
The 10th Kingdom was a great family movie, I even
At 05:47 AM 6/11/03 -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote:
Julia
What the heck are you doing at a bar at 3 - 4am?
Who said anything about bar and AM? It's a restaurant, so, well,
OK, they *do* have a bar, but you don't even need to sit there if you
want to order margaritas (and I have no idea how
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:04:49 -0500
At 12:25 AM 6/10/03 -0400, Erik Reuter asked:
lots of snippage
Can you explain why a survey published in the September 1999 issue of
Scientific American found that 90% of Americans believe in a personal
god and life after death, but only 40% of scientists (people with at
least a B.S. degree in a scientific field) believe in these phenomena?
Nope.
I do wonder, at some point will the credibility of
these people just evaporate? I mean, will people say,
gee, the people of Iraq _did_ celebrate when we
arrived, Saddam _was_ defeated fairly easily, the
country _didn't_ collapse into civil war, the museum
_wasn't_ looted, and so on - at
-Original Message-
From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 08:42 PM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: Lost in the Baghdad Museum: The Truth
From _The Guardian_ (that bastion of pro-Bush
propaganda):
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Plonkworthy?
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 23:35:04 -0700 (PDT)
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Behalf Of Deborah Harrell
William T Goodall [EMAIL
At 10:32 AM 6/11/03 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote:
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:04:49 -0500
At 12:25 AM 6/10/03
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 11:40:41AM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
My point is that there is no separate God of the Assyrians and God of
the Babylonians, therefore that question is meaningless.
Typical religious irrationality. THEY say there is, you say there is
not, but none of you have any
At 12:44 PM 6/11/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote:
Typical religious irrationality. THEY say there is, you say there is
not, but none of you have any empirical process to check your knowledge.
Their beliefs are more absurd than your beliefs? Without any empirical
tests, it is all absurd.
What
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 09:04:49AM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 12:25 AM 6/10/03 -0400, Erik Reuter asked:
Does God exist?
Yes.
(The proof is left as an exercise for the reader.)
In other words, you have no evidence. That's irrational.
Does Allah exist?
Does Zeus exist?
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:40:41 -0500
At 10:32 AM 6/11/03 -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote:
From:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 10:32:06AM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote:
I think, although I could be wrong, that this is where Erik was going
with his question. Am I right?
Pretty much. I've notice religous people like to sidestep these
questions because they don't have a rational answer.
Can you
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 11:49:50AM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 12:44 PM 6/11/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote:
Typical religious irrationality. THEY say there is, you say there is
not, but none of you have any empirical process to check your knowledge.
Their beliefs are more absurd than
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:14:23 -0400
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 11:49:50AM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do wonder, at some point will the credibility of
these people just evaporate? I mean, will people
say,
gee, the people of Iraq _did_ celebrate when we
arrived, Saddam _was_ defeated fairly easily, the
country _didn't_ collapse into civil war, the
museum
Jan Coffey wrote:
Are there not Chicken Vats in one of the GC novels?
I know they had them in the Rocheworld novels, written by
Robert L. Forward and various family members. Available
meats included Pate LaBelle (the goose-liver vat's nickname),
the Blue Oyster Culture, Chicken Little, etc. :-)
You know, Tom, given your previous record on
predictions in Iraq, do you think you might want to be
a little more careful with statements like the above?
Just a thought. I mean, if we do find them - and I
still think the odds are pretty good that we will -
what will you hate Bush foreign
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the Smithsonian lost 33 major items and over
3,000 minor items, you better believe it'd be
called the heist of the century.
-j-
OK, so I guess we can make the people of Iraq a deal -
we can find their lost stuff, plus, just as an extra
special
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You mean, you HOPE we will find them. I don't care
either way. I'm glad
Saddam is gone, and I didn't object to getting rid
of him. On the other hand, we
were obviously not prepared for what comes next,
either in Iraq or Afghanistan.
Really? My information -
-Original Message-
From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 10:32 AM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: RE: Lost in the Baghdad Museum: The Truth
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the Smithsonian lost 33 major items and over
From: Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Lost in the Baghdad Museum: The Truth
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:31:41 -0700 (PDT)
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the Smithsonian lost 33
Hey Ronn,
Although I'm temporarily in NO-MAIL mode I still had this one
in my if you ever come across this list.
You might check:
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What empirical tests have you performed to check if your
belief is correct?
Ambiguous question. It makes no sense to postulate one of an infinite
number of undetectable explanations for something when no explanation
is required. There is no need to explain what need not be explained. If
you
- Original Message -
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Twenty (or so) Questions, was Re: Plonkworthy?
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 10:32:06AM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote:
I think, although I
On 11 Jun 2003 at 13:14, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 11:49:50AM -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At
12:44 PM 6/11/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote: Typical religious
irrationality. THEY say there is, you say there is not, but none of
you have any empirical process to check your
On 11 Jun 2003 at 11:40, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Given that there are passages in the KJV which contradict other
passages in the KJV, not to mention portions of one version of the
Bible which do not agree with another version, and that Bible
Literalists believe that when Genesis says that the
On 11 Jun 2003 at 13:10, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 10:32:06AM -0400, Jon Gabriel wrote:
I think, although I could be wrong, that this is where Erik was
going with his question. Am I right?
Pretty much. I've notice religous people like to sidestep these
questions
On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 03:04 pm, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 12:25 AM 6/10/03 -0400, Erik Reuter asked:
Is there life after death?
Based on what I know, I believe so.
(Besides, there's always Pascal's wager to consider.)
My wager is that it is best to not believe in any of this
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 11:07 PM 6/9/03 -0400, Erik Reuter wrote:
The majority of religious people are irrational.
So are the majority of real numbers . . .
Ah, but all transcendental numbers are irrational.
Make of that what you will. :)
Julia
who has a book about pi and
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you think they'd take that deal? Because by
God
you talk like you think they would.
I'm merely pointing out the lack of perspective in
saying that the loss of only 33 major artifacts
and only 3,000 minor artifacts is nothing to be
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The point he's making is a valid one. He didn't say
we shouldn't have
liberated Iraq in this thread. When we removed the
regime in power we were
in charge of law enforcement until a native police
force could be
reestablished. It is obvious that
Chad Cooper would like to recall the message, Switching to NO-MAIL.
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I'm kind of amazed, though, that I can do this, using wireless, at all.
Now I will scroll and proofread the left-hand part of this message...
By coincidence, I was just asked by a customer whether or not one can run a
Citrix session through a Citrix session (a Citrix window in a Citrix
-Original Message-
From: Chad Cooper
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 1:19 PM
To: 'Killer Bs Discussion'
Subject: RE: Switching to NO-MAIL
I'm kind of amazed, though, that I can do this, using
wireless, at all.
Now I will scroll and proofread the left-hand part of this message...
--- Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I have a theory (which of course would not meet
Erik's stringent standard
for what is required to formulate a theory) that
genetics plays a strong
role in experiencing spirituality. sniplet
All religions have this one thing in common. All
An interesting essay, Gautam, but still doesn't explain how my pointing out that the
missing artifacts are in fact one of the biggest losses in museum history (outside
outright descrution) is somehow equated with burying children alive, as you claim I
want to have happen:
OK, so I guess we can
Is the DVD the whole ten hours as it was originally broadcast, or the
repeat broadcast where they cut out a couple of hours,
including some of
the best stuff?
-- Ronn! :)
It is the complete broadcast. There were two versions of the DVD, a two
disk set and a three disk set. I think the
Debbi wrote:
Why some people think they have to have exotic animals
as pets is beyond me...
Why? If you buy into the idea that keeping pets at all is ok, then what
does it matter whether it's a cat or a prairie dog or a horse or a degu? If
you buy pets, you probably buy them based on how cute
Matt wrote:
My favorite is the real-time satellite surveilance
of the action where somehow the camera angle appears to
be from a building across the street, instead of
directly above.
The angle wouldn't necessarily have to be directly above, surveilance
satellites can usually see a range of
George wrote:
Riverworld: After reading comments on the list, I wasn't too hopeful.
However, I was pleasantly surprised. The basics of To Your Scattered
Bodies Go and The Fabulous Riverboat were there. While the movie was
rather predictable, I enjoyed watching it. It screams sequel or
series.
Reggie Bautista wrote:
Why? If you buy into the idea that keeping pets at all is ok, then
what does it matter whether it's a cat or a prairie dog or a horse or
a degu?
I think the difference is whether or not the animal is suited to the
environment and vice versa. These african animals are
Chad Cooper wrote:
From Alien IQ by Clifford Pickover.
Consider two universes.
Universe Omega is a universe in which God does not exist, but the
inhabitants of the Universe believe God exists,
Universe Upsilon is a universe in which God does exist, but no inhabitants
believes God exists.
In
Top-post short version: different definitions,
different interpretations - misunderstandings. OK,
we're cool, even if we're not on the same page. :)
Looong version:
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 02:35:34PM -0700, Miller, Jeffrey wrote:
An interesting essay, Gautam, but still doesn't explain how my
pointing out that the missing artifacts are in fact one of the biggest
losses in museum history (outside outright descrution) is somehow
equated with burying
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 06:40:42PM +0100, Andrew Crystall wrote:
I was scientically trained and it didn't affect my religious beliefs
one bit.
Yes, many of the ~40% I have met are like that. Those I have
discussed it with seem to keep their mind compartmentalized, with the
rational/scientific
On 11 Jun 2003 at 19:04, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 06:40:42PM +0100, Andrew Crystall wrote:
have you read _The Blind Watchmaker_ ?
No, but I have heard a few things about it. If you want to make a
reference to it, go ahead, there is a chance it won't go over my head.
I wrote:
Why? If you buy into the idea that keeping pets at all is ok, then what
does it matter whether it's a cat or a prairie dog or a horse or a degu?
Russell replied:
I think the difference is whether or not the animal is suited to the
environment and vice versa. These african animals are
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 02:08:04PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
Are you really willing to accept anything that is not subject to
scientific testing as no more real than God?
You are really cheating. You should at least answer that one question
I asked before you get to ask me another one. But
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 12:10:46AM +0100, Andrew Crystall wrote:
Okay, I was essentially refering to the Blind Watchmaker theory - a
Universe capebale of supporting out type of life, and a planet like
ours, and us coming along...is SO unlikely, that is it unlikely it was
random chance.
Does
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Top-post short version: different definitions,
different interpretations - misunderstandings. OK,
we're cool, even if we're not on the same page. :)
I am not going to reiterate myself by responding to the rest of the post
becouse you already
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 02:08:04PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
Are you really willing to accept anything that is not subject to
scientific testing as no more real than God?
You are really cheating. You should at least answer that one question
I
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Debbi wrote:
Why some people think they have to have exotic
animals as pets is beyond me...
Why? If you buy into the idea that keeping pets at
all is ok, then what
does it matter whether it's a cat or a prairie dog
or a horse or a degu?
I
On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 12:49 am, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 12:10:46AM +0100, Andrew Crystall wrote:
Okay, I was essentially refering to the Blind Watchmaker theory - a
Universe capebale of supporting out type of life, and a planet like
ours, and us coming along...is SO
Chad Cooper wrote:
From Alien IQ by Clifford Pickover.
Consider two universes.
Universe Omega is a universe in which God does not exist, but the
inhabitants of the Universe believe God exists,
Universe Upsilon is a universe in which God does exist, but no inhabitants
believes God exists.
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Zebras are not simply striped horses, but strong and
snap-reflexed animals who 'think of' things that
startle them as hunting lions -- and if they can't do
what they prefer (run away), they are very capable of
attacking the perceived threat. Zebras have maimed
and
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 05:20:00PM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
Do you consider yourself a Positivist?
If I say no, will you think negatively of me? :-)
Ummm, wait while I look it up (I've heard it before but I don't really
know what it means, I'm quite ignorant on a lot of philosophy, in fact,
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrew Crystall wrote:
I was scientically trained and it didn't affect my
religious beliefs one bit.
Yes, many of the ~40% I have met are like that.
Those I have
discussed it with seem to keep their mind
compartmentalized, with the
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 06:31:40PM -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote:
grin So non-condescending of you...
Arrogance, love it or ...of course you love it in me, who wouldn't!
Is the sensation of wonder or true awe akin to universal
connectedness? What evolutionary purpose does wonder serve?
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Is the sensation of wonder or true awe akin to
universal
connectedness? What evolutionary purpose does
wonder serve?
(Anger, fear and love all have clear survival
advantages.) Is
this related at all to how some people
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 06:45:15PM -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote:
snort
How silly of me to ask of you a question concerning
emotions... ;)
sniff
Now you've hurt my feelings :-(
--
Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/
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On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 02:29 am, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 05:20:00PM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
Do you consider yourself a Positivist?
If I say no, will you think negatively of me? :-)
Ummm, wait while I look it up (I've heard it before but I don't really
know what it
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 11:20:03AM -0700, Chad Cooper wrote:
I have a theory (which of course would not meet Erik's stringent
standard for what is required to formulate a theory)
Geez, Chad, I didn't mean to make you so paranoid! I don't have any
problem with something stated like that (I have
I wrote:
And dogs are certainly natural bord hunters.
That should be born, not bord. And there is an extraneous apostrophe
earlier in the paragraph.
I really need sleep :-)
Reggie Bautista
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I saw part of a movie which I have forgotten about except for one thing.
An urban apartment dwelling woman had a pet piglet. I kept wondering
what she would do when that sucker got big.
--
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Deborah Harrell wrote:
Happiness Is A Warm Fuzzy Maru
Happiness is a warm fuzzy something, anyway. :-D
Jim
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 05:23:14PM -0500, Reggie Bautista wrote:
The angle wouldn't necessarily have to be directly above, surveilance
satellites can usually see a range of angles from what I understand. But
Any idea what range? This is an interesting question. I would think
that you
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 10:20:50PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This arguement is beneath you. The specific complaint about looting of
the museum has nothing to do with the legitimacy of the war. This is
not an either or question. One can rescue Iraqi children and protect
antiquites. That
Deborah Harrell wrote:
Zebras are not simply striped horses, but strong and
snap-reflexed animals who 'think of' things that
startle them as hunting lions -- and if they can't do
what they prefer (run away), they are very capable of
attacking the perceived threat. Zebras have maimed
and
William T Goodall wrote:
On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 12:49 am, Erik Reuter wrote:
Anyway, this is the mistake of using the evidence that suggested a
theory to support the theory. To demonstrate this type of error,
Richard
Feynmann once walked into the lecture hall and said
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 09:42:41PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
Speaking of zebras, when I drove by the zebra place on Sunday, I saw 4
zebras, not the usual 3. And one of them was a lot *smaller* than the
others. When I drove by on Monday, the little zebra was under one of
the others,
Deborah Harrell wrote:
How many here who consider themselves religious,
spiritual, or otherwise somehow connected to the
Divine have had that feeling of universal
connectedness or sacred presence (drug experiences
disqualified in my book) -- and how many here who
consider themselves atheist
Erik Reuter wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 09:42:41PM -0500, Julia Thompson wrote:
Speaking of zebras, when I drove by the zebra place on Sunday, I saw 4
zebras, not the usual 3. And one of them was a lot *smaller* than the
others. When I drove by on Monday, the little zebra was under
Somewhat surprisingly, Iraq is not without a success story - and indeed, it
is in one of the most unlikeliest places:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42008-2003Jun10.html?nav=hpto
p_tb
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--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Top-post short version: different definitions,
different interpretations - misunderstandings.
OK, we're cool, even if we're not on the same page.
:)
I am not going to reiterate myself by responding
Julia Thompson wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
How many here who consider themselves religious,
spiritual, or otherwise somehow connected to the
Divine have had that feeling of universal
connectedness or sacred presence (drug experiences
disqualified in my book) ...
But
IRAQ: AP Counts 3,200 Civilian Deaths; Blix Says Pentagon Smeared Him
UN WIRE
http://www.unfoundation.org/unwire/util/display_stories.asp?objid=34206
An independent investigation by the Associated Press has revealed that at
least 3,240 civilians died in the recent U.S.-led war in Iraq, 1,900
David Hobby wrote:
Julia Thompson wrote:
Deborah Harrell wrote:
How many here who consider themselves religious,
spiritual, or otherwise somehow connected to the
Divine have had that feeling of universal
connectedness or sacred presence (drug experiences
disqualified in my
NOTE: I'm not sure that everything on the page is necessarily
work-appropriate, and there are other pages in the album that I'm *sure*
aren't. Also, please do NOT download anything to pass along or display
elsewhere without the permission of the photographer. (I have an e-mail
address or two
--- Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Debbi wrote:
snip
But there are lines of many animals commonly called
exotics that have been
bred for domestication for many generations (their
generations, not ours),
at least as I understand it. I couldn't find any
info on how long
--- Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Speaking of zebras, when I drove by the zebra place
on Sunday, I saw 4
zebras, not the usual 3. And one of them was a lot
*smaller* than the
others. When I drove by on Monday, the little zebra
was under one of the others, nursing.
Aww,
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This arguement is beneath you. The specific
complaint about looting of the museum has nothing to
do with the legitimacy of the war. This is not an
either or question. One can rescue Iraqi children
and protect antiquites. That is precisely the point.
The looting
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 10:20:50PM -0400,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think I first learned of this technique while
reading Ender's Game.
When a politician accomplishes something that most
would consider
worthwhile, they like to set up a false
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 09:16:56PM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote:
trivial issue. Of all the things that happened in Baghdad for the
last year, the theft (that may or may not have happened) of 33
artifacts is surely far down the list of importance.
Agreed. There were much more important
At 05:23 PM 6/11/03 -0700, Deborah Harrell wrote:
There are some wild animals who could probably be
domesticated in time (frex several small South
American wildcats), and some who are part-way there
already (ferrets, mongooses).
Not mongeese?
-- Ronn! :)
God bless America,
Land that I love!
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Agreed. There were much more important mistakes made
by Americans after
the war. You know I supported the war, so you can't
make those claims
about me that you made about some others. Just
because I supported the
war, however, doesn't mean that I
Deborah Harrell wrote:
s.
How many here who consider themselves religious,
spiritual, or otherwise somehow connected to the
Divine have had that feeling of universal
connectedness or sacred presence (drug experiences
disqualified in my book) -- and how many here who
consider themselves atheist or
--- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 05:20:00PM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
Do you consider yourself a Positivist?
If I say no, will you think negatively of me? :-)
Ummm, wait while I look it up (I've heard it before but I don't really
know what it means, I'm
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday, June 12, 2003, at 02:29 am, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 05:20:00PM -0700, Jan Coffey wrote:
Do you consider yourself a Positivist?
If I say no, will you think negatively of me? :-)
Ummm, wait while I
writen by???
Anyway, this is the mistake of using the evidence that suggested a
theory to support the theory. To demonstrate this type of error,
Richard
Feynmann once walked into the lecture hall and said something like:
The most amazing thing happened to me on the way to
This is just a quick reminder that the Wednesday Brin-L chat
is scheduled for 3 PM Eastern/2 PM Central time in the US,
or 7 PM Greenwich time, so it started about an hour ago.
There will probably be somebody there to talk to for at least
eight hours after the start time. See my instruction page
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