If you ingore some minor gibberish about buddism:
www.truthdig.com/report/item/20060403_sam_harris_interview
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On 4/11/06, The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you ingore some minor gibberish about buddism:
www.truthdig.com/report/item/20060403_sam_harris_interview
For anyone who is wondering, as I was, who the heck Sam Harris is...
With the publication of his 2004 New York Times bestseller, The End
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Harris argues that terrorists apparently aren't thinking about poverty and
On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:33:08 -0700, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Isn't it blindingly obvious that the bin Ladens of this world find
followers because of the social and economic conditions where they
recruit?
No, that's not obvious at all. I'm pretty sure that many of his recruits
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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:43 PM
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:33:08 -0700, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 11 Apr 2006, at 4:33PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
But
there's no doubt in my mind that I also choose my theology because
of my
political and social beliefs. They are inseparable and
intertwined, as I
suspect is true for people all over the world.
So religion is just believing whatever you
On Apr 11, 2006, at 11:36 AM, William T Goodall wrote:
On 11 Apr 2006, at 4:33PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
But
there's no doubt in my mind that I also choose my theology because
of my
political and social beliefs. They are inseparable and
intertwined, as I
suspect is true for people all
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On 11/04/2006, at 6:33 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
He also seems to fail to recognize the difference between
irrational and
non-rational beliefs. And this statement, Religious moderation
is just a
cherry-picking of scripture, ultimately, is ridiculous. It
implies that
fundamentalism is
At 04:22 PM Tuesday 4/11/2006, Charlie Bell wrote:
On 11/04/2006, at 6:33 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
He also seems to fail to recognize the difference between
irrational and
non-rational beliefs. And this statement, Religious moderation
is just a
cherry-picking of scripture, ultimately, is
On 12/04/2006, at 12:33 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Faith in a deity/deities/force/whatever is one thing. It's highly
personal. But faith in a book is something else, and that's where the
argument starts - if the book says one thing, but a follower
disagrees and does something else, where's
On Apr 11, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Charlie Bell wrote:
On 11/04/2006, at 6:33 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
He also seems to fail to recognize the difference between
irrational and
non-rational beliefs. And this statement, Religious moderation
is just a
cherry-picking of scripture, ultimately, is
On 4/11/06, Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, that's not obvious at all. I'm pretty sure that many of his recruits
are middle/upper income types. I would argue that it is the wealth of the
region that stimulates terrorism and that if the Middle East was
economically and
On 4/11/06, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Supporting that, we don't have a major concern with Bangladesh terrorists
or
Zambian terrorists (two countries that have been poor for a long time).
I didn't say that poverty results in or correlates to terrorism. It's not
that simple.
On 4/11/06, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have discussed religion with a
number of Lutherans other than Nick (mainly Germanic Europeans,
either in Cyprus or in Australia), and all bar one of those still
practicing that I have met in the flesh (so 6 or 7) are biblical
literalists.
Nick wrote:
I wrote:
No, that's not obvious at all. I'm pretty sure that many of his
recruits
are middle/upper income types. I would argue that it is the wealth of
the region that stimulates terrorism and that if the Middle East was
economically and politically irrelevant there would
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Nick wrote:
I wrote:
No, that's not obvious at all. I'm pretty sure
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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:31 PM
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One view -- a minority view in Christianity -- is that the Bible is
a human
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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:23 PM
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So how do you decide which parts of scripture to follow and which
not? The
Nick Arnett wrote:
Plenty of Christians go astray by worshiping the Bible.
I suppose I get kinda wierd on this subject. But I agree with Nick's
statement above.
IMO, the study of Man and the study of the Universe are much more
important than the study of the Bible and are much more likely to
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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:47 PM
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On 4/11/06, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Supporting that, we don't
Dan wrote:
While conservation policies would have some effect, one can see a much
better correlation between changes in prices and changes in oil usage
than in governmental policies and the use of oil.
In the eight years following Carter's moral equivelent of war, during a
period of
On 4/11/06, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't say that poverty results in or correlates to terrorism. It's
not
that simple.
But without correlation, then it's hard to identify it as a major cause.
I don't think you're following me. I didn't say that poverty is a major
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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:17 PM
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Dan wrote:
While conservation policies would have some effect, one can
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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:05 PM
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On 4/11/06, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't say that poverty
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