Re: [Catalog-sig] [PSF-Board] Troubled by changes to PyPI usage agreement

2010-01-22 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Tarek Ziadé wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:08 PM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote: [..] Those scripts already exist and are in usage in the tools that are mirroring pypi. They are not rsync but http calls, but that's about it. Ok, so that wheel has already been reinvented :-) That's

Re: [Catalog-sig] [PSF-Board] Troubled by changes to PyPI usage agreement

2010-01-22 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Martin v. Löwis wrote: Like I said: the PEP can be used to document the technical requirements of being accepted as official mirror, but it doesn't cover any of the legal requirements the PSF will need to put in place in order to prevent unofficial mirrors Ok - as we are discussing official

Re: [Catalog-sig] [PSF-Board] Troubled by changes to PyPI usage agreement

2010-01-22 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Martin v. Löwis wrote: What about restricting the mirrors to the non web part in that case ? I think MAL is talking about a completely different setup: the unofficial mirror. The unofficial mirror doesn't follow any protocol; it's just a mirror of PyPI using the standard API to fetch all

Re: [Catalog-sig] [PSF-Board] Troubled by changes to PyPI usage agreement

2010-01-22 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
Martin v. Löwis wrote: OK. That's not what I understood since he proposed a cloud system run by the PSF for the PyPI mirrors. Which implied (to me) those were official mirrors. For some reason (which I don't understand) MAL is opposed to the notion of mirrors. If the complaints about a

[Catalog-sig] Fwd: [XML-SIG] Something's definitely wrong...

2010-01-22 Thread sstein...@gmail.com
This is copied from the XML-SIG which doesn't seem to be too heavily followed... I'm working on finishing up my pypi metadata mirror and have run into an apparent XML-RPC MultiCall issue. This is using the MultiCall RPC interface on PyPi with my currently unversioned pypimirror user-agent (in

Re: [Catalog-sig] [PSF-Board] Troubled by changes to PyPI usage agreement

2010-01-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
In order to make it clear that PyPI data may only be mirrored for redistribution with PSF authorization, we need to add proper notices to PyPI and also prevent such mirroring technically (if possible). However, I don't think this is factually the case: *anybody* can indeed mirror the data in

Re: [Catalog-sig] [PSF-Board] Troubled by changes to PyPI usage agreement

2010-01-22 Thread P.J. Eby
At 11:11 PM 1/22/2010 +0100, Martin v. Löwis wrote: In order to make it clear that PyPI data may only be mirrored for redistribution with PSF authorization, we need to add proper notices to PyPI and also prevent such mirroring technically (if possible). However, I don't think this is