I really don't want to start a bashing session, but I have some
concerns that those much more knowledgeable than me should hopefully
be able to clarify.
Recently, I saw this article via Catalyst Planet: http://
letsgetdugg.com/feed/view/Catalyst_vs_Rails_vs_Django_Cook_off
Essentially,
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In victori's remarks, he calls for a change in Catalyst and points to
the other advantages to to this framework, mostly related to ease of
coding. While the whole reason I came to Catalyst is because I'm
comfortable with Perl and don't want to learn Ruby, I'm worried
On 11/16/06, Carl Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Essentially, according to his test, which doesn't take into account
ORM performance, Rails Django knock the socks of Catalyst.
snip
The first thing I noticed was that the content
On 11/16/06, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Besides which, I've never yet seen a production application (and between
Shadowcat's client portfolio I've seen not a small number thereof) where the
dispatch overhead was even statistically significant to the overall
performance - the
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On 11/16/06, Carl Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Essentially, according to his test, which doesn't take into account
ORM performance, Rails Django knock the
On 16/11/06, Christopher H. Laco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Carl Franks wrote:
On 16/11/06, Cory Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/16/06, Carl Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Essentially, according to his test, which doesn't
Carl Franks wrote:
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Carl Franks wrote:
On 16/11/06, Cory Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Essentially, according to
On 11/16/06, Nilson Santos Figueiredo Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 11/16/06, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Besides which, I've never yet seen a production application (and between
Shadowcat's client portfolio I've seen not a small number thereof) where the
dispatch overhead was
Hi all,
This might be a shameless plugin - but I wander if you consider using
Catalyst::Example::InstantCRUD for fast bootstrapping a bare bones
app. I imagine that in the limited time it should be usefull.
--
Zbyszek
On 11/16/06, Dami Laurent (PJ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
This
On 11/16/06, Carl Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
It shows that in one circumstance,
Catalyst is sadly slow. Let's fix that.
Matt has just pointed out that Cat's optimised for large applications
with lots of paths, and for flexible programming.
Only fix it if that doesn't compromise
On 11/16/06, Christopher H. Laco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Regardless of whether the test is 'real world', and regardless of
whether the frameworks 'were meant to serve more complicated things',
Catalyst is slower in this instance. All things being unequal, if I tell
my boss we have 3 frameworks
Paul Makepeace wrote:
On 11/16/06, Christopher H. Laco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Regardless of whether the test is 'real world', and regardless of
whether the frameworks 'were meant to serve more complicated things',
Catalyst is slower in this instance. All things being unequal, if I tell
my
Christopher H. Laco wrote:
Paul Makepeace wrote:
On 11/16/06, Christopher H. Laco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Regardless of whether the test is 'real world', and regardless of
whether the frameworks 'were meant to serve more complicated things',
Catalyst is slower in this instance. All things
I am trying to implement a cache with a Catalyst app running under
Apache2 mod-perl and as far as I can tell the cache is clear at the
start of each request.
I have a hash which is acting as my cache but even if I put values into
it, on the next request the hash is empty.
Have I configured
Paul Makepeace wrote:
What world is this? The world that doesn't realise programmers are far
more expensive than hardware? The world where bosses don't realise the
cost of inflexibility?
Bad programmers are cheap. Mediocre, unmaintainable, and inflexible
applications are what the market
Cory Watson wrote:
My original intent was to prod someone that is knowledgeable enough of
Catalyst's internals to criticize this benchmark's methods to create a
benchmark that is more friendly to Catalyst's strengths. We've
established that serving static content is not a fitting use. We've
On 11/16/06, Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cory Watson wrote:
My original intent was to prod someone that is knowledgeable enough of
Catalyst's internals to criticize this benchmark's methods to create a
benchmark that is more friendly to Catalyst's strengths. We've
established
On 11/16/06, Brandon Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If template rendering speed might be a bottleneck for you, you may
want to investigate ClearSilver. I haven't tried it yet myself, but
I've heard good things about its performance, and there's already a
Cat View for it. Its a bit different
Cory Watson wrote:
Rather than make an exhaustive reply to your response I'll attempt to
put this to bed by merely stating that I think providing the Intarweb
with a 'better' way to measure Catalyst's pefromance is more
constructive than dismissing the way that results that were proffered.
I have a ѕimple yet thorny problem, which I expect most of you also have
or had. It has several possible solutions, but I'm chiefly interested in
knowing how *you* would solve it and why.
We're developing a Catalyst application. It serves HTML, CSS,
JavaScript, and images. HTML is the output of
I'm pleased to announce that a new bugfix release of DBIx::Class is on its way
to CPAN. Until it's indexed, you can grab the tarball at:
http://pause.perl.org/incoming/DBIx-Class-0.07003.tar.gz
http://files.danieltwc.com/DBIx-Class-0.07002.tar.gz
This release contains the following changes
Something I have done and will probably do again (but I'm not using
right
now) is having static pages like that served by Catalyst the first time
they are requested and then writing them to disk (as part of the end
handler to let apache serve) them as static going forward. To update
files, erase
Cédric Bouvier wrote:
I have a ѕimple yet thorny problem, which I expect most of you also have
or had. It has several possible solutions, but I'm chiefly interested in
knowing how *you* would solve it and why.
We're developing a Catalyst application. It serves HTML, CSS,
JavaScript, and images.
* Cory Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-16 14:40]:
I respectfully suggest that those who criticize his work should
use their energies to /improve/ his test rather than merely
dismissing it as worthless. Using his code as a base, couldn't
one create a test that was more fair? Then someone
Ian Docherty wrote:
I have a hash which is acting as my cache but even if I put values into
it, on the next request the hash is empty.
Are you aware that apache runs multiple processes and that each process
has a different copy of your %cache variable? You will not get the same
process each
* Christopher H. Laco [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-16 16:45]:
It's a world where PHBs often look at web stats and ask What
the hell is this slow a lot more than they ask Why isn't the
system flexible.
If he decides it’s because the framework is slow and makes you
switch, that means two things:
Nilson Santos Figueiredo Junior wrote:
Anyone knows how Mason compares to TT, performance-wise?
There are some very old benchmarks here:
http://chamas.com/bench/#2000
These are not ideal though, because they compare the cost of using Mason
as your controller and templating system to the cost
* Daniel McBrearty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-16 01:35]:
a wonderful rant. except : he doesn't answer one basic question
- what do you do when you genuinely do want only one instance
to ever exist?
A singleton is nothing but a global variable, except the
identifier comes from the class
On 11/16/06, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Cory Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-16 14:40]:
I respectfully suggest that those who criticize his work should
use their energies to /improve/ his test rather than merely
dismissing it as worthless. Using his code as a base, couldn't
* Cory Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-17 03:20]:
On 11/16/06, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I say I'm afraid this pasta tastes so awful I just can't
eat it, would you respond well at least [the cook] did
prepare something! maybe you should stop mouthing off and do
it better?
On Thursday 16 November 2006 20:08, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
A singleton is nothing but a global variable, except the
identifier comes from the class namespace rather than the
variable namespace. Put it in a global variable already.
Not entirely true. Try this:
$global = Oops, accidentally
On 17/11/2006, at 4:37 PM, Jonathan Rockway wrote:
On Thursday 16 November 2006 20:08, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
A singleton is nothing but a global variable, except the
identifier comes from the class namespace rather than the
variable namespace. Put it in a global variable already.
Not entirely
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