[Catalyst] plat_forms report published on June 20th. 2007. Geneva team on Catalyst wins the Perl track.

2007-06-20 Thread Dami Laurent (PJ)
The results and final report of the Plat_forms international programming contest were released yesterday in a press conference in Nuremberg, and will be published today June 20th, 2007 on http://www.plat-forms.org/. For each of the categories Perl, PHP and Java, three teams of three people

Re: [Catalyst] plat_forms report published on June 20th. 2007. Geneva team on Catalyst wins the Perl track.

2007-06-20 Thread Alvar Freude
Hi, -- Dami Laurent (PJ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The results and final report of the Plat_forms international programming contest were released yesterday in a press conference in Nuremberg, and will be published today June 20th, 2007 on http://www.plat-forms.org/. the results are now online

Re: [Catalyst] plat_forms report published on June 20th. 2007. Geneva team on Catalyst wins the Perl track.

2007-06-20 Thread Daniel McBrearty
hate to admit it, but perl took a hammering in terms of the completeness of solutions thing, maybe the most important metric. see the charts on page 13. You might see it that seperating the code from the html takes a little longer, but gives you a better architecture. I wonder how it would work

Re: [Catalyst] plat_forms report published on June 20th. 2007. Geneva team on Catalyst wins the Perl track.

2007-06-20 Thread Matt S Trout
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 06:35:31PM +0200, Daniel McBrearty wrote: hate to admit it, but perl took a hammering in terms of the completeness of solutions thing, maybe the most important metric. see the charts on page 13. Perl WSDL/SOAP tooling is pants. Film at 11. I do know of a large suite of

Re: [Catalyst] plat_forms report published on June 20th. 2007. Geneva team on Catalyst wins the Perl track.

2007-06-20 Thread Bill Moseley
On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 06:35:31PM +0200, Daniel McBrearty wrote: hate to admit it, but perl took a hammering in terms of the completeness of solutions thing, maybe the most important metric. see the charts on page 13. SOAP slowed 'em down, it seems. I only scanned the report, but lots of

Re: [Catalyst] plat_forms report published on June 20th. 2007. Geneva team on Catalyst wins the Perl track.

2007-06-20 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 10:33:50AM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote: Overall, seems like a lot of mixed results -- too much variability to draw any concrete conclusions. Not that that will stop the camps from using the report to support their claims of superiority. ;) I think one of the main

Re: [Catalyst] plat_forms report published on June 20th. 2007. Geneva team on Catalyst wins the Perl track.

2007-06-20 Thread Cédric Bouvier
Le mercredi 20 juin 2007, à 18 heures 28, Matt S Trout écrivait : On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 06:35:31PM +0200, Daniel McBrearty wrote: hate to admit it, but perl took a hammering in terms of the completeness of solutions thing, maybe the most important metric. see the charts on page 13.

Re: [Catalyst] plat_forms report published on June 20th. 2007. Geneva team on Catalyst wins the Perl track.

2007-06-20 Thread mla
Cédric Bouvier wrote: Unfortunately, the requirements just included a WSDL file, and the words implement that!. So we were doomed. The pressure and lack of sleep must have blinded me, for I didn't give up at once, and wasted valuable time trying to get something working. I'm no expert on SOAP,

Re: [Catalyst] plat_forms report published on June 20th. 2007. Geneva team on Catalyst wins the Perl track.

2007-06-20 Thread Christopher H. Laco
Cédric Bouvier wrote: [snip] To me, it seems that the enterprise world take it for granted that SOAP is a synonym for web services, the only way to go, whereas the Perl community generaly considers it as useless and as heavy as a dead donkey. Ha ha. Couldn't agree more. -=Chris

missing SOAP (was: Re: [Catalyst] plat_forms report published on June 20th. 2007. Geneva team on Catalyst wins the Perl track.)

2007-06-20 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 09:39:47PM +0200, C?dric Bouvier wrote: To me, it seems that the enterprise world take it for granted that SOAP is a synonym for web services, the only way to go, whereas the Perl community generaly considers it as useless and as heavy as a dead donkey. Still, we

Re: [Catalyst] plat_forms report published on June 20th. 2007. Geneva team on Catalyst wins the Perl track.

2007-06-20 Thread Daniel McBrearty
interesting inside view of the whole thing, Cédric. Thanks. On 6/20/07, Cédric Bouvier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mercredi 20 juin 2007, à 18 heures 28, Matt S Trout écrivait : On Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 06:35:31PM +0200, Daniel McBrearty wrote: hate to admit it, but perl took a hammering in

Re: [Catalyst] plat_forms report published on June 20th. 2007. Geneva team on Catalyst wins the Perl track.

2007-06-20 Thread Alvar Freude
Hi, -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I only scanned the report, but lots of interesting bits in there. The two PHP teams used the same framework (and not sure about the third, but perhaps similar), where the Perl and Java teams had a wider range of frameworks. Might explain why the