Re:[cayugabirds-l] CBC and hunting pressure

2013-12-30 Thread Laura Stenzler
I'll stick my neck out and resurect the suggestion that we change our Christmas count date. It would be great to add the many students and holiday travelers to our group of counters. Maybe the second or third Saturday of December. Laura Laura Stenzler

Re: [cayugabirds-l] weekend birds, hunting pressure

2013-12-30 Thread Linda Orkin
The opinion that follows is strictly my own and does not reflect any official position of the Cayuga Bird Club. Although I wish it did. I will not be one of the ones that says I have nothing against hunting because I do, sorry. But even if I thought hunting was a great thing, I feel it is

Re: [cayugabirds-l] weekend birds, hunting pressure

2013-12-30 Thread John and Sue Gregoire
If you have journeyed over to Seneca Lake you have seen the numerous duck blinds just off shore of the park where there is precious little shallow water. Representation was made to the state and village several years ago and I forget the legalese but in layman's terms the large lakes come under

[cayugabirds-l] Swans = Brooktondale

2013-12-30 Thread Susan Fast
I was out shoveling this morning, heard a few swans call, and looked up to see a flock of 20 TUNDRA SWANS right over the house. New Yard Bird. They were headed NW toward the Big Lake. But I kept hearing them off and on for the next 15 minutes. Apparently their leader got confused by heading

[cayugabirds-l] West Danby Tundras

2013-12-30 Thread Geo Kloppel
50 Tundra Swans flew very low over my house just now, heading north, perhaps even back to the Cayuga firing range, as it's snowing hard enough here to frustrate sight navigation. Their whooping was loud enough to draw us outdoors from the breakfast table. -Geo -- Cayugabirds-L List Info:

[cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [GeneseeBirds-L] Duck Hunting Rules and enforcement

2013-12-30 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
For those interested…a similar conversation was happening on GeneseeBirds-L. Sincerely, Chris T-H Begin forwarded message: From: Michael and Joann Tetlow mjtet...@frontiernet.netmailto:mjtet...@frontiernet.net Subject: [GeneseeBirds-L] Duck Hunting Rules and enforcement Date: December 29,

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [GeneseeBirds-L] Duck Hunting Rules and enforcement

2013-12-30 Thread Anne Clark
Am I not reading tables correctly? Doesn't the table show just snow goose and Canada goose hunting season now, with ducks having ended Dec 15? If so, why are hunters all tucking in at the end of the Lake? And why is it so concentrated right now, since Snow Geese have been legal since Oct 1?

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [GeneseeBirds-L] Duck Hunting Rules and enforcement

2013-12-30 Thread Linda Orkin
Thanks Anne. This reminds me that I had also checked seasons a while back when thinking about this year's upcoming CBC. I saw the same and then just thought I had been wrong. What's the story anyone? Linda. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 30, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Anne Clark anneb.cl...@gmail.com

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [GeneseeBirds-L] Duck Hunting Rules and enforcement

2013-12-30 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
You're reading the wrong table. The seasons vary among the different DEC regions of the state. We're in the Western region, and Duck season ran 26 Oct - 8 Dec, then started up again for 28 Dec - 12 Jan. See table at http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/2.html Kevin From:

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [GeneseeBirds-L] Duck Hunting Rules and enforcement

2013-12-30 Thread Jody W Enck
Hello all, Please note that all of New York State west of route 81 and south of Lake Ontario is in the western zone for waterfowl hunting. The zones listed in the DEC table are just for New York State. I hope this reduces some of the confusion. Jody Enck From: Linda Orkin Sent: ‎Monday‎,

[cayugabirds-l] Moving the Christmas Count Date Earlier

2013-12-30 Thread Sandy Podulka
Moving the Christmas Count earlier would certainly make it impossible for us and many local families to participate--there are too many conflicting required school or work, or other social events the two weeks before Christmas. In addition, the compilation dinner would not be well-attended,

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [GeneseeBirds-L] Duck Hunting Rules and enforcement

2013-12-30 Thread Debbie Mahoney
http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/2.html This is the table I found after visiting Stewart and East Shore Park on Saturday. Debbie On Dec 30, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Linda Orkin wrote: Thanks Anne. This reminds me that I had also checked seasons a while back when thinking about this year's

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [GeneseeBirds-L] Duck Hunting Rules and enforcement

2013-12-30 Thread Anne Clark
Aha--of course. I just never think of living in the western region of anything, since leaving CA. All explained. Thanks, everyone else who has also answered. On Dec 30, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Kevin J. McGowan wrote: You’re reading the wrong table. The seasons vary among the different DEC

RE: [cayugabirds-l] weekend birds, hunting pressure

2013-12-30 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
... Do they really stop firing when the ducks swing toward shore? I would say yes. One of the first things you get taught in firearm safety class (which is mandatory in New York for all first-time hunting licenses) is to always be aware of where your muzzle is pointing. Always. Most

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [GeneseeBirds-L] Duck Hunting Rules and enforcement

2013-12-30 Thread Linda Orkin
Yes. I think west of the Mississippi. Oh well. Easy explanation. And thanks. Linda Sent from my iPhone On Dec 30, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Anne Clark anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote: Aha--of course. I just never think of living in the western region of anything, since leaving CA. All explained.

[cayugabirds-l] Christmas Bird Count and Hunting Pressure

2013-12-30 Thread bob mcguire
In an effort to move the discussion towards some sort of resolution, I have have a couple of questions. Does anyone have answers? 1) Has the late waterfowl hunting season overlapped with the Ithaca CXBC for ever? If not, since when? 2) Who (office or person) in the DEC sets the season dates?

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fwd: [GeneseeBirds-L] Duck Hunting Rules and enforcement

2013-12-30 Thread Mo Barger Rooster Hill Farm
Late duck season is 12/28-1/12 in our zone. For the most part everyone is discussing the western zone, the area of NYS west of 81: http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/28497.html Information about late duck season: http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/28513.html#Western The DEC invites anyone for their input

Re:[cayugabirds-l] Moving the Christmas Count Date Earlier

2013-12-30 Thread Carol Schmitt
Iagree with Sandy. The Jan. 1stdate for the count has its origins with Doc Allen, I believe. He chose it since everyone would have aday off anyway and this has worked for years. All of our data is based on thisdate so I would think that consistency would have value. (Kevin?) Until

[cayugabirds-l] Duck hunting dates

2013-12-30 Thread John and Fritzie Blizzard
The DEC list shows the 2nd season for ducks Canadas in western NY as being 28 Dec. thru 12 Jan.. Bag limits are higher for Snows (25 per day) than for ducks or Canadas. Snow geese season: 1 Oct. thru 15 April. Hunting time begins 1/2 hr. before sunrise ends at sunset. -- Cayugabirds-L List

[cayugabirds-l] Linda Okin's radio interview

2013-12-30 Thread CFSchmitt
Linda had a great interview about the Count with Lee Rayburn this morning on WHCU. You can go to the WHCU webpage and listen to the podcast. http://whcuradio.com/morning-newswatch/cayuga-bird-count-wednesday/ Nice job, Linda! Thanks, Carol Schmitt -- Cayugabirds-L List Info:

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Christmas Bird Count and Hunting Pressure

2013-12-30 Thread Kevin J. McGowan
No, the late duck hunting season has not always overlapped with our count. It's only been a problem in the last 10 years or so. I remember being shocked the first time the opening day was 1 January. I had never experienced any such disruption in the previous decade of the count. The duck

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Christmas Bird Count and Hunting Pressure

2013-12-30 Thread Jody W Enck
From: bob mcguire Sent: ?Monday?, ?December? ?30?, ?2013 ?10?:?19? ?AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L In an effort to move the discussion towards some sort of resolution, I have have a couple of questions. Does anyone have answers? 1) Has the late waterfowl hunting season overlapped with the Ithaca CXBC

ADMIN: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Christmas Bird Count and Hunting Pressure

2013-12-30 Thread Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes
In answer to Bob's last request, below: I see no problem with this topic, as long as it remains constructive. Sincerely, Chris T-H On Dec 30, 2013, at 10:18 AM, bob mcguire bmcgu...@clarityconnect.commailto:bmcgu...@clarityconnect.com wrote: In an effort to move the discussion towards some

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Moving the Christmas Count Date Earlier

2013-12-30 Thread Anne Clark
My observations from alternative scheduling strategies: I participate in the count around Binghamton. It is scheduled on a weekend before Christmas and is not always easy for folks, depending on such variables as the last dates at Binghamton University as well as holiday events. To keep it

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Christmas Bird Count and Hunting Pressure

2013-12-30 Thread bob mcguire
Thanks Jody. I find Mo Barger's reference (http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/42364.html) to the DEC invitation for input most helpful. By the looks of it, the (western) season dates are set EACH YEAR based on the recommendations of a group of 12 people. The first two (J Adriance J Eckler) appear

[cayugabirds-l] Snowey Owl

2013-12-30 Thread Neil F. Belcher
Sighted a Snowy Owl in Ithaca at 3:15pm, flying south over Cass Park -Neil Belcher -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES

[cayugabirds-l] Syracuse RBA

2013-12-30 Thread Joseph Brin
RBA   *  New York *  Syracuse * December 30, 2013 *  NYSY  12. 30. 13   Hotline: Syracuse Rare bird Alert Dates(s): December 23, 2013 - December 30, 2013 to report by e-mail: brinjoseph AT yahoo.com covering upstate NY counties: Cayuga, Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge and Montezuma Wetlands

[cayugabirds-l] possible violations

2013-12-30 Thread Dave Nutter
Thanks for the link to the regulations. I think I've seen violations of the following:(b) Hunting methods. Migratory game birds on which open seasons are prescribed in this section may be taken by any method except those prohibited in this subdivision. No person shall take migratory game

[cayugabirds-l] Migratory Game Bird Seasons

2013-12-30 Thread M Miller
The question was asked who sets the dates for duck goose seasons. According to the NY Hunting Trapping guide “most Migratory game bird regulations are set by the Federal Government in late summer”. The guide goes on to state that all additional information in that section is tentative and

[cayugabirds-l] Diving birds

2013-12-30 Thread M Miller
They sound like Mergansers (either Common or Red-breasted) and they will dive all at once like that. I watched a group near Sheldrake a week or 2 ago, and they would completely disappear, then resurface a minute or so later. Sent from Windows Mail -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: