Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] 3rd Day in raw :( SRST-unity integration problem , even CTI solution doesn't work,

2009-01-14 Thread jeremy co
Hi Vic, I really appreciate that u giving your time. I really badly stuck in this, and cannot find a solution yet. I use ccm 4.1(3)sr3c and 12.4 (5b) today's morning Ryan remote desktop to my laptop and configure translation pattern (3rd option to do SRST/unity) but surprisingly same result

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QOS Marking

2009-01-14 Thread o Ninja
Hi Hany, There is a good vLecture regarding to Campus QoS on IPexpert website. Even so, your specific question is not clear for me also. My best guess is that you just have to configure voice and vlan in the interfaces, and let the qos being disable. Could be good if someone could clarify it

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Alex
Kamal, According to task wording below: Between Site A and Site B only g729 allowed and Site B will receive multicast MOH from router flash, no multicast traffic allowed between Ste A and SiteB - I take it as MOH from Site B router flash for Site B IP phones can actually use g711 and wouldn't

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Alex
Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH IssueVik, AFAIK if G.729 is enabled in IPVMSA and MOH server is in HQ DP (which allows only G.729 to Site B) then the following happens: - CCM instructs Site B phones to join mcast group 239.1.1.3 which is G.729 MOH -Site B router streams only G.711 MOH from flash to

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Multicast MOH

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
can someone explain what you mean there? thanks, Ryan Trauernicht On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:39 AM, kamal yousaf lovingprin...@gmail.comwrote: I always forget g711 includes any thing g711 and below. How stupid i am. Thanks alot Vik . On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Vik Malhi

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Parker
Vik, I think we are on to something. Here is what I get with the ras debug turned on: BR2#debug ras H.323 RAS Messages debugging is on BR2#h323chan_dgram_send:Sent UDP msg. Bytes sent: 83 to 172.16.101.1:1719 fd=2 .Jan 14 15:28:55.172 CET: RASLib::GW_RASSendRRQ: RRQ (seq# 3729) sent to

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Parker
Vik, When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I must be running into this issue. I do have bandwidth total configured on my GK as well. It is set to 96. I'm guessing if I bump it up to 128 to allow a g711 call it'll work? Chris Vik Malhi wrote: Jose is about to

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Sub-Pub failover HA Test

2009-01-14 Thread Agh
I do not have two CCM to test this scenario but is there anything to watch out for when you failover Sub(Primary) to Pub(secondary) and then back to Sub again? E.g.your whole configs might just be wiped out or remote site phones not functioning after you failover back to your Sub [image: [Eek!]] )

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
yup. Gatekeeper looks at g711ulaw as 2 (64k) call legs for a total of 128. Thanks, ryan Trauernicht On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Chris Parker cpar...@cparker.us wrote: Vik, When I type no gateway and try the call again it goes through. So I must be running into this issue. I do have

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
Hi Alex: When you have enabled G729 in IPVMSA CCM instructs the IP Phones to join a specific multicast group, it depends on what you have configured in the MOH server, in the case you are talking about, you have configured to increment IP Address, then the IP Phones will join the multicast

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
Hi Chris: The problem is that the router that is registered to the GK sends an ARQ to the GK, and due to the fact you have configured bandwidth total with a value less than 128k the call is rejected. The question is, why, if we are using a dial peer with session target a loopback IP address,

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Alex
239.1.1.3 configured as base IP for MOH server, multicast moh 239.1.1.3 on SRST router and no G.729 for IPVMSA is what I was talking about. Rgds Alex - Original Message - From: kamal yousaf To: Alex Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:10 PM

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
Hi Cyrus: I could not find any other solution, is the way it works, when is one zone and you have an specific CAC requirement, I would suggest to use the interzone command, however for one zone it does nothing. Regards, Jose From: Cyrus

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Cyrus
Hey , If u configure 128 as total bandwidth your call would not going through. BACD needs at least 144 to work properly. The reason is with BACD u have one 16k call (if using G729 over wan) and one 128K call (this is caused by CME ARQ to GK) The question is if requirement be like that : -the

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Parker
Thanks Jose, Strange stuff to say the least... My GK config is multizone so I will adjust my bandwidth statements accordingly. Chris Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero) wrote: Hi Chris: The problem is that the router that is registered to the GK sends an ARQ to the GK, and due to the fact you

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] CCIE Voice Required - Germany - Permanent

2009-01-14 Thread David Clark
Good Afternoon. Apologies for the mass e-mail, however, I have a senior position in Germany that I am actively sourcing candidates for. I am recruiting for an International, award winning Cisco Gold Partner who is currently developing their IPT and Unified Communications division with a

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
The two solutions work- either you place your MOH server in a g711-always DP and your should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.1. OR...IF you did but the MOH server in a DP that uses g729 to site B (for whatever reason) then you should set the SRST router to use 239.1.1.3. The MOH file on the

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
Ok- Jose got it right and this is what he was about to say (right?) What is the difference between these two dial-peers on a gateway registered to GK? Dial-peer voice 1 voip destination-pattern 1... session target ras ... AND Dial-peer voice 2 voip destination-pattern 1... session target

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] For MLP, is TS required?

2009-01-14 Thread wafers44
I understand that when configuring LLQ w/ FR, TS is required. If we configured FRF.12, TS is also required. Several questions; 1. If we configure MLP alone, is TS required? I was under the assumption that it's not required. Going by Volume 3 L5 Q43, the solutions doesn't have TS configured when

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread anil batra
Hi Vik,   My response/querry in between lines to your response please...I hv have Q's??? --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote: From: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue To: Alex alex.arsen...@gmail.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] MLP layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
Can anyone tell for certain if MLP with FR is 13 bytes for overhead on layer 2 or is it 13 (MLP) + 4 (FR)? Page 33 on SRND for QOS only said 13 bytes for MLP (PPP). It doesnt say it includes FR. Vik can you comment on that? You WAN video I believe said it does, but just wanting to make sure.

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
If i set my MOH server to G729 for the remote branch and put a G711 file on the flash with the following commands: moh .wav multicast moh 239.1.1.3 port 16384 route X.X.X.X X.X.X.X I get dead air is that b/c the file type loaded on the flash needs to be g729? On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] marking on routers

2009-01-14 Thread anil batra
So Vik, as Ryan pinted out ...do we still need to mark the traffic on router using class-map/policy-map etc eben though we are marking on dial-peers please --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote: From: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] marking

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MLP layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
I guess on top of that if you do MLP with LFI is that the 13 bytes or is just MLP 13bytes of overhead. If you add in LFI how much layer 2 overhead does that add? On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone tell for certain if MLP with FR is 13

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
Can you post the output of debug ccm-m music all. Check that the MOH is being active using debug ephone moh. Dead air is better than tone. CCM thinks everything is working so the problem is lying in the spoofing part. I don¹t think it is anything to do with your MOH file- have you tried it with

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
Yeah. 128 will be enough for calls made locally from the CME phones though. -- Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Fax: +1.810.454.0130 Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com Join our free online support and peer group communities:

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] For MLP, is TS required?

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
TS is required in both scenarios is the answer to your question. And it would be VERY unlikely that you would be asked to configure LFI without LLQ (in my humble opinion). -- Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Fax:

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] For MLP, is TS required?

2009-01-14 Thread Anthony Yeung
Thanks for the clarification. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote: TS is required in both scenarios is the answer to your question. And it would be VERY unlikely that you would be asked to configure LFI without LLQ (in my humble opinion). -- Vik Malhi –

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Cyrus
Vic, Loopback solution is used as workaround to force CME to kick in the Xcoder.As we can see with G711 ,there is no need for loopback solution. But BACD work properly ,we need at least 144k BW on GK, please correct me if I'm wrong 128+16 for incoming calls from WAN On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
home lab that I pulled the sample audio from the MOH folder. I set it to G711only and change the IP address to 239.1.1.1 and all is well. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote: Can you post the output of debug ccm-m music all. Check that the MOH is being

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] anyway to remove sdspfarm config without doing no telephony ?

2009-01-14 Thread jeremy co
Hi, every time I want to change sdspfarm config , I have to do no telephony and put everything back again. Is there any way to remove sdspfarm tag command, in case I want to change Mac address ? Jeremy

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
My fault monday mistake! I had it based on port based and not IP based. All working now. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.comwrote: home lab that I pulled the sample audio from the MOH folder. I set it to G711only and change the IP address to

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread wafers44
FR = 4 bytes FRF.12 = 8 bytes Agreed. For MLPoFR (w/ or w/out LFI - but in our case we would only be using MLP for LFI) I've been using 4B (FR) + 13B (MLP). Also, in all the IPExpert solution guides for Volume 3 atleast they've been using 4B+13B for MLPoFR On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Ryan

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] For MLP, is TS required?

2009-01-14 Thread Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
Hi: If you are configuring MLPoFR you have to have TS. Regards, Jose From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of wafers44 Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 1:04 PM To:

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
Ok good.. FRF.12 w/ FR = 8 FR = 4 FRF.12 = 4 sorry for the confusion. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM, wafers44 wafer...@gmail.com wrote: FR = 4 bytes FRF.12 = 8 bytes Agreed. For MLPoFR (w/ or w/out LFI - but in our case we would only be using MLP for LFI) I've been using 4B (FR) + 13B

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Jose Gregorio Linero (jlinero)
Hi Ryan: No it does not, it could be G711. Regards, Jose From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Trauernicht Sent: Miércoles, Enero 14, 2009 1:16 PM To: Antonio McCarver Cc:

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
MLPoFR is actually either 10 or 11 bytes (my memory is failing me). In the SRND it states MLP is 13 bytes. The 13 bytes I can only imagine is a conservative estimate or is MLPoATM. It certainly is very conservative for MLPoFR. I would clarify with the proctor- I would not use 13 + 4 = 17 bytes.

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread anil batra
So Vik when it says don't use FRF.12 , that is we got to use MLP LFI in that case how much the payload be   20+4+13 =17   or 20+13 = 33   Kindly let us know... --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com wrote: From: Vik Malhi vma...@ipexpert.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread anil batra
sorry need to add RTP/UDP/Header 40 too to these vlaues..so shall it be   MLP with LFI  = 20+40+4+13 =77 or 20+40-+13 =73     --- On Thu, 1/15/09, anil batra anil...@yahoo.com wrote: From: anil batra anil...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead To: Ryan Trauernicht

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread Shadab Abbasi (moabbasi)
It is 17 for sure. Regards, Shadab CCIE# 22893 (Voice) Technology Solutions Network ~Sent from my NOKIA E61i~ -Original Message- From: anil batra [mailto:anil...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 04:23 AM China Standard Time To: Ryan Trauernicht;

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread Shadab Abbasi (moabbasi)
And yes, its 77 w/o compression 39 with compression Regards, Shadab CCIE# 22893 (Voice) Technology Solutions Network ~Sent from my NOKIA E61i~ -Original Message- From: anil batra [mailto:anil...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 04:26 AM China Standard Time To: Ryan

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] MOH Issue

2009-01-14 Thread Hardesty, Scott
Could you post your sho run on the router that you are sourcing the MOH from? If you are getting dead air, that means your CCM is setup correctly and the issue is pointing to the local MOH configuration. Do you have at least 1 ephone defined? Another note, if you had it working with g711

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
Vik any reason why the IPExperts lab do 13+4 for MLPoFR? On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Shadab Abbasi (moabbasi) moabb...@cisco.com wrote: And yes, its 77 w/o compression 39 with compression Regards, Shadab CCIE# 22893 (Voice) Technology Solutions Network ~Sent from my NOKIA E61i~

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Chris Parker
Vik, Makes complete sense. What if the voip peers used the SIP protocol? In that case I guess the GK would not be involved? Chris Vik Malhi wrote: Ok- Jose got it right and this is what he was about to say (right?) What is the difference between these two dial-peers on a gateway registered

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] NTP CM

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
Any reason why CM will not keep its NTP clock. I have a local router with the following commands: ntp master 3 ntp source loopback0 (IP address is 192.168.187.1) I have edited the c:\WINNT\System32\Drivers\Etc\ntp.config My file looks like: server 192.168.187.1 # Set Local Clock to

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] Feeling lost

2009-01-14 Thread Cliff McGlamry
I'm just starting out in the lab, and already feeling lost. 1. WHERE does the IP Blue client come from? If it has to be purchasedfrom WHERE? 2. I see some posts about connecting a VPN up to run hardware that's local to me up to the Proctor Labs rack, and they mention documentation

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Feeling lost

2009-01-14 Thread rob
Hi Cliff, Finally there are some questions on here that I can answer! ;) 1. IPBlue = http://www.ipblue.com/download.asp?product=vtgo 2. IPExpert Tech FAQs = http://ipexpert.ccieblog.com/2008/11/01/proctor-labs-voice-faq/ http://proctorlabs.com/forum/ for FAQ's on how to connect via EZVPN...

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Feeling lost

2009-01-14 Thread Cliff McGlamry
Hmmm. Can't find the setup for a hardware VPN to support physical phones on my end. The IP Expert Tech FAQ's hint at it, but provide no guidance. ProtorLabs forums are completely hosed up and unusable for some reason. Just a bunch of server debug coming to the browser. - Original

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Feeling lost

2009-01-14 Thread rob
I'm also having problems with the proctorlabs forums at the moment! Wait until they're back online and then check the FAQ section for the Voice racks... There's a thread on there with an example EZVPN configuration that you can modify depending on which rack you're assigned..

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
The Loopback solution is used for calls from the WAN invoking the AA and also CME phones calling the AA- (144/128). -- Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890, CCSI #31584 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Fax: +1.810.454.0130 Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com Join our free

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Cyrus
Vic, Loppback solution is *only* used as a workaround for invoking Xcoder .Because calling from WAN to CME and then hitting AA would not force CME to involve Xcoder. So as a workaround we direct traffic to the loopback thus CME and Xcoder and then AA will come to play. Here is the proof. GK

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] BACD Voip peers

2009-01-14 Thread Vik Malhi
Loopback solution is required for invoking the xcoder for calls from the WAN. However here is the bit I think you might be missing. The loopback solution is also required for Cme phones calling the AA and it is for this latter call I was originally focused on. Vik Malhi - CCIE#13890 Senior

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] All the files you need are on the router flash

2009-01-14 Thread Cliff McGlamry
I've seen this statment and it has been applied to both the Proctor Labs and the Cisco labs. I'm curious about something. 1. When installing things like CME, the TAR files often contain a read me file that has details on implementation. Is that read me file available? Is the TAR archive

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] NTP CM

2009-01-14 Thread karuna durai
Hi, After editing the ntp.conf file please fo to CMD as C:\Prog file\cisco\xntp ntpdate -b IPADD of NTP pls try this and let me know On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Ryan Trauernicht ryanstudyvo...@gmail.comwrote: Any reason why CM will not keep its NTP clock. I have a local router with

[OSL | CCIE_Voice] UNIVERCD

2009-01-14 Thread Cliff McGlamry
Does anyone know what is going on with the Cisco UNIVERCD? I understand that we will have access to this during the actual lab, but many of the major sections related to voice are broken links. If this happens in the lab exam, are you just screwed or what? Cliff

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] unity and SRST wired problem , not the classic bug question!

2009-01-14 Thread Balamurugan Singaram
Hi Vik,   The 4082032220 is CTI route point in CCM, the CTI route point solution works only if I am disabling isdn outgoing ie redirectin-number under serial interface 0/2/0:23, If I am enbaling isdn outgoing ie redirect-number, then the CTI solution is not working.   Could please let me know

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] NTP CM

2009-01-14 Thread Ryan Trauernicht
That did not help Digging alittle bit further into this I see that my CM is actually pulling clock from my ESX box. Not sure why that is happening. Anyone else running ESX for their Call Manager having the same issue? On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:41 PM, karuna durai karu...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Layer 2 overhead

2009-01-14 Thread Agh
This is getting confusing. I read in IEexpert (or Internetwork Expert, I forgot) that for MLPoFR(g729), without compression: 27.6 with compression: 12.4 Let me see if I can still access that article... Message: 2 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:09:01 -0600 From: Ryan Trauernicht