[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection

2013-08-27 Thread Herman . Schreuder
A trick I like is just to freeze the reservoir solution or would-be cryo-solution without a crystal present. If the frozen solution stays clear and does not show ice rings on e.g. a home source, it is worth trying. Otherwise, the solution needs optimization. Herman -Ursprüngliche

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution, R factors and data quality

2013-08-27 Thread Pavel Afonine
Excellent point about R-factors. Indeed, at this resolution they should be quite lower than what you have. Did you: - model solvent? - use anisotropic ADPs? - add H (this alone can drop R by 1-2%)? - model alternative conformations? - How R-factors (Rwork) look in resolution? Pavel On Mon, Aug

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution, R factors and data quality

2013-08-27 Thread Bernhard Rupp
Maybe a few remarks might help: Ad a) R merge of 80% may be OK if I/sig for high res shell is 2. What rationale is that statement based upon and what is the exact meaning of this statement? Is an Rmerge of 80% not ok when I/sigi is say 1.5? Or would 80% be ok if the i/sigI is 3.0?

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution, R factors and data quality

2013-08-27 Thread Phil Evans
The question you should ask yourself is why would omitting data improve my model? Phil On 27 Aug 2013, at 02:49, Emily Golden 10417...@student.uwa.edu.au wrote: Hi All, I have collected diffraction images to 1 Angstrom resolution to the edge of the detector and 0.9A to the corner.I

[ccp4bb] Last call for MX-beamtime proposals at HZB BESSY II, deadline September 1. 2013 is approaching

2013-08-27 Thread Müller , Uwe
Next MX-proposal application deadline: September 1, 2013 is approaching The Pilatus 6M is operational at BL14.1, which leads to a substantial performance increase of this station Single 8h beamtime bookings are now possible We kindly invite new MX-proposals for beamtime applications for the next

[ccp4bb] R factor geeting stuck

2013-08-27 Thread Afshan Begum
Hi ccp4 experts, I have collected diffraction images to 0.96 Angstrom resolution to the edge of the detector. One data set give me the full completeness and   below i have pasted my statistic values got from XDS. I have cut off data at 1.12 A  which seems to be quite nice regarding all

Re: [ccp4bb] Low 280 absorbance imidazole?

2013-08-27 Thread Armando Albert
Hi Phoebe, Could you please explain me how do you stain the piece of paper? Thank you Armando El 21/08/2013, a las 17:03, Phoebe A. Rice escribió: Hi Bernhard, If your cheap imidazole works fine aside from the absorption problem, there's always my favorite stone-age detection method:

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection

2013-08-27 Thread Enrico Stura
Herman, The trick you suggest is not as valid as you may think. The ice rings can originate from the crystal itself. If you crystallize in a high concentration PEG precipitant you will avoid ice rings, but if you transfer or soak your crystals in the same solution the high molecular weight

Re: [ccp4bb] R factor geeting stuck

2013-08-27 Thread Eleanor Dodson
that doesnt seem too bad an Rfactor to me! What do you expect? Eleanor On 27 August 2013 09:59, Afshan Begum afshan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi ccp4 experts, I have collected diffraction images to 0.96 Angstrom resolution to the edge of the detector. One data set give me the full completeness

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] cryoprotection

2013-08-27 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Enrico, You are right that the trick has its limitations and I am aware of it. However, it might not be as bad as you think. Fiddling with the crystallization buffer or transferring crystals to different buffers also causes stress to the crystals and in many cases loss of resolution. If

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution, R factors and data quality

2013-08-27 Thread Arka Chakraborty
Hi all, does this not again bring up the still prevailing adherence to R factors and not a shift to correlation coefficients ( CC1/2 and CC*) ? (as Dr. Phil Evans has indicated).? The way we look at data quality ( by we I mean the end users ) needs to be altered, I guess. best, Arka Chakraborty

Re: [ccp4bb] Insertion of a Tag protein in of the molecules of a Dimer protein complex

2013-08-27 Thread Noinaj, Nicholas (NIH/NIDDK) [F]
Anindito, First off, I have never tried this, but here are a few initial thoughts on how I might approach this. But first a question, how tight is the dimer form? if you mixed dimers with tags and dimers without tags, would you get any exchange? If so, you might be able to use this to your

Re: [ccp4bb] Insertion of a Tag protein in of the molecules of a Dimer protein complex

2013-08-27 Thread Paul Paukstelis
Nicholas is right that it depends a lot on the dimer you are working with. I worked on a dimeric tRNA synthetase and was able to make heterodimers in a couple of ways. The most effective was to make a bicistronic version of the ORFs each with their own S-D. Each had a tag for tandem affinity

Re: [ccp4bb] Insertion of a Tag protein in of the molecules of a Dimer protein complex

2013-08-27 Thread Will Stanley
Hello Anindito, While Nick and Paul have thrown you some great ideas around the TAP-tag theme (although GST may not be ideal as it dimerises itself), I feel that I've read your initial e-mail differently from them. Maybe you could clarify? It sounds like you have a specific tag of ~5kDa in

Re: [ccp4bb] Negative IOBS in XDS

2013-08-27 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Niu, I first would look at the data set statistics of the data set before investigating individual reflections, and also take a look at FRAME.cbf which shows the predicted spots for the last integrated image. Best, Tim On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 04:34:11PM -0400, Niu Tou wrote: Dear

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution, R factors and data quality

2013-08-27 Thread Jim Pflugrath
I have to ask flamingly: So what about CC1/2 and CC*? Did we not replace an arbitrary resolution cut-off based on a value of Rmerge with an arbitrary resolution cut-off based on a value of Rmeas already? And now we are going to replace that with an arbitrary resolution cut-off based on a

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution, R factors and data quality

2013-08-27 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Hi Jim, all data is good data - the more data you have the better (that's what they say anyhow) Not everybody is adopting to the Karplus Diederich paper as quickly as you do. And not to be confused with the Diederichs and Karplus paper :-) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3689524/

Re: [ccp4bb] Resolution, R factors and data quality

2013-08-27 Thread James M Holton
Based on the simulations I've done the data should be cut at CC1/2 = 0. Seriously. Problem is figuring out where it hits zero. Alternately, if French Wilson can be modified so the Wilson plot is always straight, then the data don't need to be cut at all. As for the resolution of the